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FENTANYL CHEMISTS ARE GETTING CREATIVE. HERE?S HOW CHINA PLANS TO STOP THE DEADLY FLOW OF DRUGS

While organised crime groups have successfully circumvented controls by innovating and changing the chemical structures of fentanyl, a top United Nations drugs expert hopes further regulating the drug in China will allow authorities to act faster.

Jeremy Douglas, regional representative for the UN Office on Drugs and Crime for Southeast Asia and the Pacific, said Beijing?s decision to move to a generic control process, where any new fentanyl-related substances would be automatically controlled, would be a step forward.

?Basically what China will be doing now is to create a control process for the whole class of drugs ? the intent is to accelerate control to ensure a faster reaction,? he said.

Fentanyl ? the most lethal category of opioids used in the United States ? last year alone killed more than 29,000 people in the country, according to the US Centres for Disease Control. China has been blamed for what has been described as a public health crisis in America.

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Beijing on Saturday announced it would reclassify fentanyl as a ?controlled substance? following a meeting between US President Donald Trump and Chinese President Xi Jinping on the sidelines of the G20 summit in Buenos Aires, Argentina.

US authorities believe illicit fentanyl is being transported into the country in packages directly from China, or from China through Canada, and is also being smuggled across the border from Mexico.

Beijing has now ?decided to schedule the entire category of fentanyl-type substances as controlled substances, and start the process of revising relevant laws and regulations?, a statement from China?s Foreign Ministry said.

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About two years ago, Washington and Beijing had agreed to work together to combat the flow of fentanyl and other related drugs. At the time, China listed about 25 types of fentanyl and analogues as well as two precursors used to make the drug.

But chemists have since created new variations that circumvent such controls. ?Organised crime [groups] have gone around the list by changing a few molecules ? they have innovated,? Douglas said.

And while criminals are getting more creative, the authorities have fallen behind.

?Organised crime groups have effectively circumvented initial controls by ? basically creating new yet-to-be-controlled versions,? the UN expert said, referring to fentanyl as a ?moving target?.

Synthetic drugs like fentanyl can be made in labs anywhere as long as a talented chemist has access to the necessary precursor chemicals.

?They require a different response than traditional drugs ? production is not geographically defined,? Douglas noted.

Controls on fentanyl also have been complicated by the fact it is a legitimate pharmaceutical product, legally used as a painkiller and anaesthetic. However, ?there is illicit production, and there are ?analogues?, which are similar but [with] different variations, including some that are much more powerful,? the expert said.

Fentanyl is a man-made opioid that can be 100 times more potent than morphine and 30 to 50 times stronger than heroin.

Douglas said international cooperation should be expanded given the increasingly transnational nature of criminal activities.

?And with the volumes of goods moving, alignment of trade and security measures would also help,? he said.

?It is also very important that China and other countries in Asia start to share information on new emerging substances through the UN Office on Drugs and Crime early warning system. Rapid exchange of information can help us alert authorities and save lives.?

Asia is facing a synthetic drugs boom, with illicit fentanyl described by experts as an emerging threat. Evidence of fentanyl production or transit has been found in China, which has the largest industrial base in Asia, but also in India, Pakistan and Thailand.

Foreign markets, such as the US and Australia, have been hit hard by the synthetic opioid that has made its way into the heroin supply.

American authorities said clandestinely produced fentanyl ? primarily in powder or counterfeit pill form ? has been trafficked into the US mostly from China and Mexico.

?Large volumes of fentanyl are seized at the southwest border, although these seizures are typically low in purity, less than 10 per cent on average. Conversely, the smaller volumes seized after arriving in the mail directly from China can have purities over 90 per cent,? a report released by the US Drug Enforcement Administration described.

US report says China not moving fast enough to stem flow of fentanyl and other synthetic opioids
Evan Ellis, research professor of Latin American studies at the Strategic Studies Institute of the US Army War College in Pennsylvania, had previously told This Week in Asia that Chinese and Mexican cartels were not just competing for the US market, but also complementing each other?s businesses.

?Many of these networks started out as networks from Mexican cartels who had contacts in China, so they would import first the chemicals ? in some cases the whole drugs,? Ellis said. ?But as the Chinese criminals have become more sophisticated, they also started developing options to work directly with clients in the US.?

Trump has openly blamed China for his country?s opioid crisis, but Ellis said America should also do its part.

?There is probably more that the Chinese government could do,? he said. ?But frankly, it?s also a US responsibility to do everything possible to fight demand.


Source: https://www.scmp.com/week-asia/geop...ts-are-getting-creative-heres-how-china-plans
 
There are way more drug-poisoning deaths in North America that involve fentanyl than those that involve fentanyl analogues, and the former has been a controlled substance in China for ages. I doubt this change is going to do much of anything to make the North American street-opioid supply less dangerous.
 
They should change the way drugs and drug users are handled, then the need for organized crime and superpotent analogues would subside sooner than with anything else. It's like having war and blaming these who produce or supply the ammo alone for the dead count..
 
There are way more drug-poisoning deaths in North America that involve fentanyl than those that involve fentanyl analogues
how do you know this? i read forensics often wasn't even bothering to differentiate. though my source is a news article.
 
how do you know this? i read forensics often wasn't even bothering to differentiate. though my source is a news article.

Take a look at this report from the CDC, where drug-poisoning deaths in ten states were looked at with more granularity:

CDC said:
Fentanyl was detected in 56.3% of 5,152 opioid overdose deaths in the 10 states during July-December 2016.

...

Fentanyl analogs were present in 720 (14.0% ) opioid overdose deaths, with the most common being carfentanil (389 deaths, 7.6% ), furanylfentanyl (182, 3.5% ), and acetylfentanyl (147, 2.9% ).
 
See and its a shame something like this is barely talked about in the media. To me this shows trump does care about the country. To bring this topic up at a foreign leaders dinner the way he did is unheard of. Chicken shit Obama wouldnt even acknowledge a problem. But trump cares about the people in this country. But what we hear is russia russia russia. Its fuckin so beyond bias any normal person can see and id be embarrassed to work for them
 
See and its a shame something like this is barely talked about in the media. To me this shows trump does care about the country. To bring this topic up at a foreign leaders dinner the way he did is unheard of. Chicken shit Obama wouldnt even acknowledge a problem. But trump cares about the people in this country. But what we hear is russia russia russia. Its fuckin so beyond bias any normal person can see and id be embarrassed to work for them

Are you replying to Tumps win in getting china to designate Fentanyl as a "controlled" substance?

The statement that the Trump administration put out about the win in urging china to curtail the problem thus resulting in a new designation for Fentanyl is comical at best.

The Obama administration worked with China back in 2016 to create enhanced measures to stop the illegal importation of fentanyl and similiar analogues. Trumps statements sound particularly similar to the last administrations concerns regarding this problem. Only difference is Trump failed to realize the fact that Fentanyl is already a controlled substance in that country. Meanwhile we are still experiencing mass fent related overdoses.

This was discussed by most of the major news outlets. This article also recognizes Obamas acknowledgment of this issue. As many posters have echoed a majority if not most fent overdoses involve plain fent.

https://obamawhitehouse.archives.go...urity-council-spokesperson-ned-price-us-china
 
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Actually true but vague also. Trump is making the analogues of it part of a larger list if controlled substance. And working more with china about it. Cause whatever obama did had noneffect as deaths increased about 10,000 fold from 2016 to 2017. So there is some more hope here at least
 
As I understand...meth is controlled in China and the still export literal tons of it.

Regulating fent will do absolutely nothing. And if it does, the cartel will fill in the gaps since fent is easy to make and they already have fent super labs
 
Actually true but vague also. Trump is making the analogues of it part of a larger list if controlled substance. And working more with china about it. Cause whatever obama did had noneffect as deaths increased about 10,000 fold from 2016 to 2017. So there is some more hope here at least

The fent analogues most commonly found in batches of dope by the CDC are already controlled by both countries. The point is that policing and controlling these deadly drugs has done little to curtail overdoses historically. I find little hope in Trumps approach to the war on drugs given his tactics on criminalizing drug users.
 
Actually true but vague also. Trump is making the analogues of it part of a larger list if controlled substance. And working more with china about it. Cause whatever obama did had noneffect as deaths increased about 10,000 fold from 2016 to 2017. So there is some more hope here at least

There is zero hope of stopping fent. I truly believe the days of heroin are numbered. Synthetic opiates are cheaper more potent and easier to produce. This is the future
 
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