Opioids victim of war on Opioid's

[Eternalpain]

I have been on oxycodone for over 2 years since my back surgery and my doctor has now stopped prescribing me the medication because of recent law changes. I am still in a lot of pain and have become dependant on the drug to function. Everyone I have talked to suggests i buy the drugs illegally online through the "dark web" which i cant risk because i have a family that depends on me and i am not good with computers enough to understand encryption/darkweb.

If i can please get some advice on what i should do now that Opioid medications are no longer prescribed to patients in need of them. if i did not have a family i would kill myself without a second thought, i am addicted/dependant whatever u want to call it i want/need my opioid medication to function. i have been through withdrawals many times and dont mind it for the amount of relief i get when i am high on my medication. i just want my pills/life back, please help me

 

[Sertürner]

It would be very wise to seek bupe/methadone treatment if you are in so much pain you want to harm yourself. Those are the only pain meds which doctors still love to give out, and they actually work. If you dont have the means to get on those, you could try kratom as well (I would have suggested kratom 1st, but considering the mental state you are in, it would be in you and your family's best interest if you were medically supervised IMO).

 

[Phantasia]

You need to see a psychiatrist, ideally one that has experience dealing with pain patients, ASAP. Spending the rest of your life on heavy duty pain killers would be extremely unhealthy mentally and physically. I was in constant pain until I found non-narcotic alternatives. Between NSAIDS, exercise, meditation, and CBT I do quite well. Of course different things work for different people. Talk to your doctor about other pain relieving options like ultrasound, infrared therapy, and chiropractors. Good luck and see a psychiatrist sooner rather than later.

 

[smallengine01]

Quit while youre ahead and deal with the pain. Youre gonna have to deal with it sooner or later anyway better to not be kicking an iv dope habit in your county jail along with the pain. Try some pot if you want to still get high stay away from the benzos and psych meds. Stay away from methadone or subs, theyre for heroin addicts and can make your situation worse.
Bite the bullet and good luck!

 

[Sertürner]

Quit while youre ahead and deal with the pain. Youre gonna have to deal with it sooner or later anyway better to not be kicking an iv dope habit in your county jail along with the pain. Try some pot if you want to still get high stay away from the benzos and psych meds. Stay away from methadone or subs, theyre for heroin addicts and can make your situation worse.
Bite the bullet and good luck!

This is very dangerous advice. It would be far better to do a sub or methadone taper under medical supervision than to "bite the bullet and good luck". They are both used for treatment of chronic pain as well and they both are very effective analgesics, despite what many people say about them on here. Just because they aren't the most euphoric doesn't mean they dont work well. I would never tell somebody who is wishing to die because of the pain to just deal with it.
OP, I would really consider talking to your physician about this situation, they can offer taper and detox options as well as maintenance, and you can get the psychiatric care as well while you are sorting out this issue. Dont do this alone it hardly ever works.

 

[T. Calderone]

EternalPain, I'm going through a similar problem but my surgery was only this past June. I would have never had it done had I known the pain was going to linger on like this. Don't mind my questions but I'd like to get an idea of where you're at: Is oxycodone your only medication? Have you tried n-saids and muscle relaxants? What about physical therapy?

I might suggest a pain management specialist. However, you have to be willing to go through whatever treatments they suggest. Whether it's facet injections, physical therapy, epidurals, etc. or combination of - do it. Doctors are heavily scrutinized due to these new laws so even if you find one who's willing to prescribe you oxycodone, they need to justify this to the DEA. Welcome to Bluelight and I hope you find some relief for your pain.

 

[g0to]

How much oxycodone a day are we talking? It might be feasible for you to switch to something like kratom or tramadol(they're not the same at all but could possibly work). Especially something like low dose bupe (<1mg) with a few hundred mg tramadol. If the dosage is really high you might have to go on MMT, which they will prescribe and they wont cut off as long as you follow the program. Really depends on your oxy dosage though.

 

[kleinerkiffer]

I have been on oxycodone for over 2 years since my back surgery and my doctor has now stopped prescribing me the medication because of recent law changes. I am still in a lot of pain and have become dependant on the drug to function. Everyone I have talked to suggests i buy the drugs illegally online through the "dark web" which i cant risk because i have a family that depends on me and i am not good with computers enough to understand encryption/darkweb.

If i can please get some advice on what i should do now that Opioid medications are no longer prescribed to patients in need of them. if i did not have a family i would kill myself without a second thought, i am addicted/dependant whatever u want to call it i want/need my opioid medication to function. i have been through withdrawals many times and dont mind it for the amount of relief i get when i am high on my medication. i just want my pills/life back, please help me

How many miligrams a day did you take?
If you only care about analgesia a nsard might help (for example ibuprofen+apap might be superior to even morphine https://www.rcoa.ac.uk/faculty-of-pain-medicine/opioids-aware/oxford-league-table)

 

[apocalypse_when]

Im going through something similar. I hurt my leg badly in Afghanistan and recently fell off some step ladders and have royally fucked it up. Im in the most tremendous amount of pain and currently on 87.5mcg/hr of fentanyl (patch) and my doctor says he has to stop all opioid meds and is tapering me off. The pain some days is more than i can stand and i dont know how im going to live like this.... But the armed forces taught me resilience in the face of adversity and never to give up no matter what...

Sometimes we just have to play the hand we are dealt and knuckle up even when we dont feel like it..

I really do sympathise with you bro, and hope you find an answer to your dilemma, but ive come to realise myself that opiates for depression is a really bad idea..it will just make things worse believe me.

 

[LucidSDreamr]

You need to see a psychiatrist, ideally one that has experience dealing with pain patients, ASAP. Spending the rest of your life on heavy duty pain killers would be extremely unhealthy mentally and physically.

This is utter bullshit.

Millions of ppl take opiates their entire lives and are productive and no less healthy mentally or physically.


It's nice that CBD and chiropractors work for you...but the OP has REAL pain which scientifically unsubstantiated treatment you are suggesting are not going to work.


A few other bullshit responses by ppl that are obviously not familiar with chronic intense pain I won't even address.

OP. My suggestion would be to try and find a new doctor and ask your current doctor to hold you over until you make the switch.

Plan b

If you are rich and know someone with a legit script buy it every month from them.

Plan c

Learn to use the dark net, you say you dont want to risk it for your family, but are you going to be much use to your family if the pain causes suiucide?

I sympathize with you...pain and my necessarily illegal lifestyle to manage it is the main reason I have decided against having children. It's a shame I have to be a criminal because of pain.

Plan d

Methadone clinic.

Plan e

Heroin.


Poppy pod tea is also a good fall back that can handle severe pain levels.


I am a pain patient myself and am very very concerned with what is happening right now with the rationing of opioids.

 

[Chris42393]

Try Kratom, it worked actually better than hydrocodone for me (I was on hydrocodone for 3 years). Depending on where you live you can try marijuana or at least CBD. That is great for pain too.

 

[apocalypse_when]

Try Kratom, it worked actually better than hydrocodone for me (I was on hydrocodone for 3 years). Depending on where you live you can try marijuana or at least CBD. That is great for pain too.

Yeah, anything that hits thw brains opioid, cannabinoid, NMDA or (to a certain extent GABA receptors is going to help control your pain. As long as you recognise these substances as such, especially with things like kratom. Sometimes people don't realise that it is an opiate receptor agonist and therefore carries the same risk of dependence that other opioids do. Perhaps not as much as an full mu receptor agonist such as heroin, morphine, fentanyl or methadone, but it still has the capacity for dependence. If one was to stay on it for a long period of time and then abruptly stop, then one would experience quite severe withdrawal symptoms...

Best of luck to you OP and to everyone suffering with chronic pain. It really sucks...

 

[LucidSDreamr]

Try Kratom, it worked actually better than hydrocodone for me (I was on hydrocodone for 3 years). Depending on where you live you can try marijuana or at least CBD. That is great for pain too.

i think hydrocodone works better than kratom for pain. but kratom does have a more euphoric high in my opinion.

 

[cj]

Methadone maintenance is the best option out of a bunch if bad options.

 

[Sertürner]

^ THIS. Dont use the dark net if you are trying to be safe. Sub or methadone maintenance is the #1 option if you cant get your pain meds. You will be under medical care and it's legal and very effective, especially the methadone, for pain.

 

[emkee_reinvented]

I have been on oxycodone for over 2 years since my back surgery and my doctor has now stopped prescribing me the medication because of recent law changes. I am still in a lot of pain and have become dependant on the drug to function. Everyone I have talked to suggests i buy the drugs illegally online through the "dark web" which i cant risk because i have a family that depends on me and i am not good with computers enough to understand encryption/darkweb.

If i can please get some advice on what i should do now that Opioid medications are no longer prescribed to patients in need of them. if i did not have a family i would kill myself without a second thought, i am addicted/dependant whatever u want to call it i want/need my opioid medication to function. i have been through withdrawals many times and dont mind it for the amount of relief i get when i am high on my medication. i just want my pills/life back, please help me

At least file some official complains about your dr stopping your pain medication not for a medicall reason, but because of changes in the law. Seems ridiculous but if that's his reasoning it should, or could raise some questions about who's doing what.

But then again, looking at America don't know if you are ?

where you get Vicodin after wisdom teeth removal, come on what's that for kinda shit like killing a flee with a clusterbomb. That's asking for trouble. What will you prescribe for a rootcanal, which is a a pain in the ass and a superseded practice mostly, according to my dentist. But treated without any opiod over here, like anything else thatś not terminal or Cancery.

Right something stronger, remember there are numerous country's in which pain regulation is purely done with non-addictive substances. Not third world country's, but beautiful flat and wet ones. Money could be the key I don't know, maybe rich people have different docs, more willing to prescribe? I certainly would wish most thing's would be kinda OTC, concerning emergencies like rootcanal and worse..

Not trying to downgrade your pain but chances are over here you would be on NSAID's and or Paracetamol, maybe Tramadol.

Next time you get the chance, if that happens, stockpile.

 

[LucidSDreamr]

OP.. if you look for a new doctor, target primary care doctors in their 80s in upscale neighborhoods.

I've been at this for 15 years. This strategy produces more prescriptions than seeing pain management doctors.

Doctors at that age have zero fear of the dea or losing their license.

 

[Phantasia]

This is utter bullshit.

Millions of ppl take opiates their entire lives and are productive and no less healthy mentally or physically.


It's nice that CBD and chiropractors work for you...but the OP has REAL pain which scientifically unsubstantiated treatment you are suggesting are not going to work.


A few other bullshit responses by ppl that are obviously not familiar with chronic intense pain I won't even address.

OP. My suggestion would be to try and find a new doctor and ask your current doctor to hold you over until you make the switch.

Plan b

If you are rich and know someone with a legit script buy it every month from them.

Plan c

Learn to use the dark net, you say you dont want to risk it for your family, but are you going to be much use to your family if the pain causes suiucide?

I sympathize with you...pain and my necessarily illegal lifestyle to manage it is the main reason I have decided against having children. It's a shame I have to be a criminal because of pain.

Plan d

Methadone clinic.

Plan e

Heroin.


Poppy pod tea is also a good fall back that can handle severe pain levels.


I am a pain patient myself and am very very concerned with what is happening right now with the rationing of opioids.

How in the fuck do you know the op is in real pain? You don’t. But you make the incredibly stupid and fucking ignorant suggestion of using heroin. JFC.

 

[LucidSDreamr]

I'm guessing he's in pain from the fact that he said he would kill himself because of the pain if he didn't have a family. Just a hunch I guess.


Heroin is an option that we in chronic pain often have to resort to...more so nowadays than ever. Heroin has saved my job and life when doctors were too scared to.

He could also kill himself, or just live in horrible pain in bed all day thinking about killing himself. Heroin beats those two options in my direct experoence.

 

[apocalypse_when]

How in the fuck do you know the op is in real pain? You don’t. But you make the incredibly stupid and fucking ignorant suggestion of using heroin. JFC.

To be fair he says in his opening post "Im still in a lot of pain". He also says that he needs an opiate to function. While heroin is obviously a bad decision for anyone, if his options were literally exhausted and it came down to heroin or suicide because of the pain I know which one Id pick...and it wouldnt be suicide.