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Information on Piperidylthiambutene

Wookiewoody

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This chemical (Piperidylthiambutene) has recently popped up and become available. Have any of you actually tried it? Can anyone offer some insight or even some educated guesses as to it's activity, potency, length of effect or anything really? Any of you tried other thiambutenes. Any insight would me most welcome!
 
according to [ref] lasts about 4.5h (morphine about 5.5h), dose 25-100mg, can be given by injection, not extremely euphoric (compound 268C49 in the paper)
 
Isn't 268C49 the pyrrolidine compound? But still, I guess they would be fairly similar..
 
Put these in a bin with AH-7921 & MT45. Yes they reverse opiate abstinence syndrome but no, they aren't recreational. Really, we went off-book and found things like ethyl 2-[2-(dimethylamino)propyl]-1-phenyl-1-cyclohexane carboxylate. The set of euphoric opioids is a small subset of opiates. We even resolved the isomers of that one and discovered that we had something as great as propoxyphene. Imagine our joy...

I've posted what I think is the most euphoric but since it's only M potency, a cheap route is needed. Did we explore that one!
 
If piperidylthiambutene will reverse opioid abstinence syndrome but aren't super reinforcing, that could be a valuable tool for people wishing to taper down. Presumably it is at least enough, too, to hold cravings at bay, whilst people keep the wolf from the door when reducing their tolerance with a taper.

Would still give piperidylthiambutene a go, if just to have tried one of the more unusual opioids. In the spirit of exploration.

Haven't tried AH-7921, but a fair few folk here seemed to use it, it can't have been THAT worthless.

As for something as great as propoxyphene, only tried that once, after finding a box in a skip that was being liberated of lead and copper. In hindsight, it may as well have stayed in the skip. Or been taken out and flushed down a toilet so as not to disgrace that poor dumpster=D

Is it even really a proper opioid? it really is THAT shit. Less of value than even diphenoxylate, which is saying quite a lot.
 
Propoxyphene is apparently more useful for suicides than as a painkiller because of its weird, quite lethal, side effects as an anti-arrythmic that will totally inhibit cardiac conduction in high doses.

No wonder it got pulled from the pharmacopiea in every modern country.
 
Especially with it's high profile discussion after the David Kelly weapons inspector murder.

And of course, it'd make sense to pull it because it's fucking shit and worth less than a jihadi's spunk-filled allahsturbation sock. If you flushed propoxyphene down the bog, the sewers would probably write you a nasty letter complaining about it.

Apparently, they even made, before it got shitcanned of course, a napsylate salt form, to make it absorb slower once swallowed so it would have less abuse potential as an opioid. That HAD to be in the US, guessing mind you, but bet it was,because who and were else are THAT big a pack of pleasure-despising,freedom-loathing nazi babyfucking bastards ;P
 
Mathadone is used in replacement therapy and apart from 1 or 2 even longer-acting analogues, nothing else is really of much benefit. Some people do end up on morphine or diamorphine amps but they are in the 100s in the UK AFAIK. The Dutch tried supervised Palfium consumption since it gives a rush when taken orally but the important thing is that you can go through dozens of novel opioids before you find a euphoric one and you can go through dozens of euphoric ones with a decent TI. Dextropropoxythene is an SRI which is why it was abused by people who were into MDMA as their drug of choice. Increased the euphoria.... and killed a lot of people.
 
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