So let me try to get this straight, because then maybe I can actually start getting somewhere in my recovery. Let's say hypothetically that I took my last bit of heroin at night before sleep, say around midnight. If I wait until 1 or 2pm the following day, I can take my first Sub dose (small, like 1mg) and then let the Sub do its job for a few hours. If I feel no relief, take another 1mg dose? Or can I take a small bit of heroin? My main question is how long after that first Sub dose can I safely take the dope??? And then I guess the next il(logical) question is-how soon to take Sub again?!
thank you and I apologize for my idiocy in this
1mg of sub isn't going to do any job. It prob wont put you into precipitated withdrawals at such a small amount, but it won't give you much relief if you have any sort of an opiate tolerance. If you don't go into precipitated withdrawal, take another 1mg. You can take dope whenever you want, 2 min after that first sub or 2 hours..but I, personally, would wait to see what the subs do first. You don't need to be scared as long as you have a full agonist on you. Even if you go into the dreaded PWD, a full agonist will take you out of it within SECONDS. Just make sure you have that full agonist or you will find yourself driving very very sick to your dope dealers house (and I mean like projectile vomiting out the car window the whole time sick). I took 24 mg of subs stupidly once only 10 hours after a week long heroin binge off of subs and I still was able to pull myself out with just a couple of lines of dope. The subs will keep the full agonist from getting you truly high, but you will feel relief. I would dose more sub the next day, but a slightly larger amount. You do not have the danger of going into precipitated withdrawal if you already have subs in you, which you will from the 1-2mg done before..you might not feel great until you take some of your full agonist, but you won't go into horrible painful wds.
Ideally it should go sorta like this:
Day 1: Dose 1mg subs in the am, do, say, a 1/2 gram of dope throughout day (I don't know your tolerance though, this is based on my own tolerance when I did this), add another 1mg if the first 1mg doesn't do anything (even if that "anything" is make you sick).
Day 2: Dose 2mg subs in the am, do a 0.4 sized bag throughout day
Day 3: Dose 4mg subs in the am, do a 0.3 sized bag throughout day
Day 4: Dose 8mg subs in the am, do a 1/4 (0.2) gram bag throughout day
Day 5: Dose 16mg subs in the am, do 0.1 gram sized bag throughout day
Day 6: Dose 16mg subs in the am, do NO DOPE. At this point your body will be used to the subs (and will have tapered from the full agonist some as well), and the subs should be blocking most of that dope you're doing anyways. Honestly, you might start feeling just fine without dope by day 5.
Where I always fucked up was not being able to put down the dope in the end. I'd tell myself I needed just one more day on it. This method is as painless as you can get, but it requires serious determination.