Training Log 2nd Cycle

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ElkHorn

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14 Days into new Sustanon and Tren Cycle. Started tren 10 days ago, and dropped it down to 25-30mg/day from 50mg/day at Serotonin's advice.

Looking more full, aggression and libido up, feel like a machine with work, and strength is definitely up. Side effects have been more prone to anxiety and hard to sleep a full 8 hours.

Hoping to be able to turn 10 lbs of fat into 10 lbs of muscle while keeping my weight around where it is (216lbs), along with significant strength gains. Would like to get my deadlift in the high 500's, squat to mid 500's, and bench to high 300's. Right now squat is at 500lbs, DL at 530lbs, and Bench at 345lbs.

Starting with 500mg Sustanon per week with 25mg tren/day and 3-4iu HGH/day.

will increase the sustanon and tren by 100mg and 10mg respectively, alternating every other week.

Week 1: 500mg Sustanon HGH 3-4iu/day
Week 2: 500mg Sustanon 25mg TrenA/day HGH 3-4iu/day
Week3: 600mg Sustanon 25mg TrenA/day HGH 3-4iu/day
Week 4: 600mg Sustanon 35mg TrenA/day HGH 3-4iu/day
Week 5: 700mg Sustanon 35mg TrenA/day HGH 3-4iu/day
Week 6: 700mg sustanon 45mg TrenA/day HGH 3-4iu/day
Will repeat the "Week 6" regiment for the remaining 2-4 weeks, and perhaps tweak based on feel and results.

Any and all input is appreciated!
 
ElkHorn said:
14 Days into new Sustanon and Tren Cycle. Started tren 10 days ago, and dropped it down to 25-30mg/day from 50mg/day at Serotonin's advice.

Looking more full, aggression and libido up, feel like a machine with work, and strength is definitely up. Side effects have been more prone to anxiety and hard to sleep a full 8 hours.

Hoping to be able to turn 10 lbs of fat into 10 lbs of muscle while keeping my weight around where it is (216lbs), along with significant strength gains. Would like to get my deadlift in the high 500's, squat to mid 500's, and bench to high 300's. Right now squat is at 500lbs, DL at 530lbs, and Bench at 345lbs.

Starting with 500mg Sustanon per week with 25mg tren/day and 3-4iu HGH/day.

will increase the sustanon and tren by 100mg and 10mg respectively, alternating every other week.

Week 1: 500mg Sustanon HGH 3-4iu/day
Week 2: 500mg Sustanon 25mg TrenA/day HGH 3-4iu/day
Week3: 600mg Sustanon 25mg TrenA/day HGH 3-4iu/day
Week 4: 600mg Sustanon 35mg TrenA/day HGH 3-4iu/day
Week 5: 700mg Sustanon 35mg TrenA/day HGH 3-4iu/day
Week 6: 700mg sustanon 45mg TrenA/day HGH 3-4iu/day
Will repeat the "Week 6" regiment for the remaining 2-4 weeks, and perhaps tweak based on feel and results.

Any and all input is appreciated!
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Something I've been reading recently:

Thyroid Hormone + Growth Hormone – If You Aren’t Using T4 with Your GH, You’re Not Doing It Right
July 23, 2006 By Anthony Roberts..

https://thinksteroids.com/articles/thyroid-hormone-growth-hormone/
 
I like this cycle. I'm excited to see your results.
As for the t4 on gh, I thought after some time on levels came back up? As he's been on gh for some time, his t4 production should be good to go.
 
Interesting. Perhaps i will get some t4. The HGH is mostly used for added lipolysis and hair growth in my case, but might as well receive more of an anabolic boost.

I was considering adding some t3 later in the cycle if i'm not leaning out to my liking. So this would be a bad idea based on this article, correct? If i'm understanding correctly, the actual conversion of t4 to t3 is what provides a boost as it increases the enzymes that synergize with the anabolic effects of the HGH. Interesting info. Will look more into t4.

@Serotonin, this is true, i've been on HGH consistently for over 5 months. Planning on staying on it another month or two before stopping and seeing how much new hair growth i'm able to maintain and if i notice myself gaining fat more easily.

So will having been on it this long make the addition of t4 less necessary?

Thank you both for your input!
 
I'm jealous of your squat to deadlift ratio. How frequently are you training each lift?
 
@Serotonin, thanks! So would it still be a bad idea to add in t3 later on if my t4 is more normalized by this point?

@RedLeader, thanks man. About twice a week. I train 2-3 days on, one day off. Push, Pull (with deadlifts), and Legs which is basically squats calves and leg extensions.

I find my intensity can be so high on gear that i have better numbers doing 2 days on 1 off. I also don't use any real programming. Just 5 working sets of every exercise. I'm actually annoyed at my ratio, as i feel my deadlift should be higher right now. I failed a 535 deadlift today and it hardly got off the ground. It used to be my strongest lift by far, but now my squat might be my best relative to body weight. Bench is good too, but i think deadlift should be higher given i weigh 216lbs.
 
If you add the t3 in, thyroid will self regulate and begin to shutdown. Also elevations of thyroid hormones cause lowering of IGF-1. I'd just leave it be to be honest. Thyroid is something I only mess with for maybe 3 weeks a year if that to get down to a contest lean state. I see it as: less variables=less potential issues. I wanna say there's also a link between thyroid hormones and certain type of gyno (I think prolactin possibly, been a while since I read it).
 
Got bloods back. Estradiol is at 188. I feel pretty good, but how much anastrazole or tamoxifen should I take to lower it if I should lower it?
 
None. Unless your estradiol was a sensitive estrogen test result, tren will falsely cause high estradiol numbers. Do you feel fine? Dick working fine? No itchy/sore nipples?
 
Fuck, i already took 0.5mg anastrazole...

Girlfriend is coming in a few days so i hope i didn't just fuck myself hormonally. And yes i've been feeling good, no itchy or sore nipples, strength is good in the gym.
 
You'll be fine.
Feeling a bit of deja vu lol.
For future, only use AI when you feel you need it. Just kick back and enjoy the ride. You'll know when you need it when you've actually had estro issues come up. There is no questioning it really.
 
Deja Vu indeed, lol.

Last time i took it like 2-3 days into cycle and my dose was quite low. This time at least i reacted to blood work lol.

So is the blood work to check estro unnecessary in your opinion?

Really hoping the anastrazole doesn't fuck me up like it did last time.... I have Cialis and Viagra though, so that should help worse case scenaio. My erections are still rock hard right now.

So 188 isn't high when running tren? I understand i need to hold off until symptoms are obvious, but the number freaked me out, and i was definitely feeling more emotional yesterday. The anxiety caused me to impulsively pop a half tab after seeing the results.
 
My girlfriend will be here for close to a week, so i was going to do a double shot in the next couple days anyways. Do you think higher sustanon dose would help if i start getting low estro symptoms? I'm terrified of my dick not working lol. (never had that issue thank god, but i'm still paranoid about it).
 
Probably explains why steroid dealers also often stock Cialis and Viagra. If you have extra funds, maybe stock up for emergencies.
 
It's been 3 hours since i took the anastrazole and i think i might feel better from it. Just like more stable mentally and like my libido is potentially higher? Makes me think that perhaps just because i wasn't getting gyno I might be still benefiting from lowered estro. I just had webcam sex with my girl and was rock hard.

And ya i have a decent stash of cialis and viagra. I haven't actually tried viagra and only used cialis once, but i like how cialis lasts longer.
 
188 isn't bad. On tren I've had numbers in the 700-800 range when running it like 350-400/week. And different strokes for different folks. Some do ok with lower estro and some get limp noodle and painful joints. And vice versa with high estro.
 
True that. Well hopefully it doesn't fuck my libido. Would be super frustrating as i was feeling like an animal and was looking forward to destroying my girlfriend all week. Oh well, hopefully it isn't bad and my next sustanon injections and some cialis have me performing right as rain, lol.
 
Just put it out of your mind. Remember, the most important sex organ is your brain. I was able to still tear up a chick on 0 test, 2.5mg letro eod, 75mg winstrol and 20mg halo everyday. Took a little more work as my sensitivity was low (could barely feel the sex) but I still performed without any aid like cialis or viagra.
 
Elkhorn, have you felt any loss of emotion toward the girlfriend at all since getting on tren? Or any relationship flavored jealousy?
 
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