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thozalinone - interesting stuff that is not discussed here

asecin

asecin

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i just found it online as new item being sold without "special" accounts to acquire it and i researched a bit and except wikipedia, nothing is really available on it. more specific that im looking for actual reports on people using it! i checked the search engine here, not a single thread about it, why is that? probably not widely available and people arent well informed about it just like i am. but i am curious to try it, anyone has anything to bring about it before i do a trial??
 
Might be a good functional stim, doesn't look like you can get a whole lot out of these aminorex analogs once you lose the amine.
 
Yes functional without much in the way of being pleasureable. I need more experimentation before I can adequately describe the effects though.

I can say this: Thozaline and n methyl cyclazodone are the only two stims I've been able to use responsibly. Any other stim usages launches into binge usage because I'm very prone to give into the urge to redose. I don't have this problem with these chems.
 
it is seemingly devoid of abuse potential unlike common psychostimulants that increase catecholamines
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are stimulants without abuse potential at all euphoric? guessing no?

MDPV_Psychosis said:
Yes functional without much in the way of being pleasureable. I need more experimentation before I can adequately describe the effects though.

I can say this: Thozaline and n methyl cyclazodone are the only two stims I've been able to use responsibly. Any other stim usages launches into binge usage because I'm very prone to give into the urge to redose. I don't have this problem with these chems.
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I only have the urge to keep using with meth, and even then I can avoid using meth more than sparingly per day if I want to (the last bag I had, I did tiny lines and it lasted ages).

It requires me to shoot meth to want to keep doing it in such a fashion.

Heroin/bupe are the same, I immediately want to always be on it even if I didn't feel that way immediately prior to the relapse. This is what led me to believe I truly have a sick brain and cannot take opiates/bupe even once.
 
MDPV_Psychosis said:
Yes functional without much in the way of being pleasureable. I need more experimentation before I can adequately describe the effects though.

I can say this: Thozaline and n methyl cyclazodone are the only two stims I've been able to use responsibly. Any other stim usages launches into binge usage because I'm very prone to give into the urge to redose. I don't have this problem with these chems.
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so you cant really say how you feel on them yet? so far it doesnt have any pleasant effect and that is you are sure of? because i would suspect at least some pleasure out of their dopamine activity. there must be some!
 
asecin said:
so you cant really say how you feel on them yet? so far it doesnt have any pleasant effect and that is you are sure of? because i would suspect at least some pleasure out of their dopamine activity. there must be some!
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Ok, yes, there is some pleasure but it pales in comparison to traditional stims. It does feel good when it kicks in but it's not overwhelming... On par, if not a little better than, the enjoyement I get from caffeine I guess?

I have more experience with n methyl cyclazodone at this point. The perfect dose of n methyl cyclazodone for me is ~20mg. At this dose I get decent functional stimulation that lasts 7-10hrs with lingering residual stimulation still felt 24hrs later. Sleep is possible 10-12 hrs after dosing without sleep aides but it does take longer than usual to fall asleep due to lingering residual stimulation.

The effects, for me, are not overwhelming. Rarely do I feel like I'm tweaking. There can be some jaw tension and muscle tightness (legs for example) but it's mild compared to other stims. Mostly I just notice increased focus, motivation and physical ability.

There just doesn't feel like a huge dump or rush of dopamine. I generally don't find myself talking too much, no uncontrollable urge to redose, no uncontrollable urge to watch porn (both urges to redose and watch porn are big problems for me with most stims), little in the way of uncontrollable ticks or other odd stimulant behaviors. It's possible all this stuff appears with higher doses but I have no desire to find out... Which is strange because with most stimulants I feel compelled to take them to their limits.

Dose response curve is steep when unwanted side effects are taken into consideration. Just a little too much of a dose and it gets kinda uncomfortable. Hard to explain but it's not like other stimulants where too much gets you tweaking hard... It just becomes uncomfortable in a way that's hard to describe. Guess it's just too much anxiety?

I really think these drugs are going to lead to a great functional stimulant with lower abuse potential. They may not be the perfect one yet (potential liver concerns for example) but I think its a step in the right direction.
 
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I imagine there isn't a whole lot of difference between the two, but please compare and contrast once you've had more time with thozalinone.
 
So far the only thing I've noticed is a shorter duration with thozalinone vs n methyl cyclazodone. Thozaline seems to last ~6-7 hours but unlike n methyl cyclazodone I didn't notice the lingering stimulation going into the next day.

I do need more trials with thozalinone to be able to provide a better comparison but it might be awhile. I've been trying to keep my experimentation to a minimum due to my previous stimulant addictions. I will report back after the next the next thozalinone trial, but it might be awhile.
 
yeah it makes sense its not like true stims that pump dopamine into your brain, this type just inhibits it, just like wellbutrin. have you ever tried wellbutrin? it might be similar i think. its a stim with antidepressive quality
 
I was thinking(or hoping) it might be more like a less edgy/side effect inducing phentermine, than something as weak as bupropion. Could they not keep the amine and try different substitutions on the oxazol?
 
Definitely stronger/better than bupropion (Wellbutrin).

I was on Wellbutrin years ago and the stimulation from it was barely noticeable to me especially after taking it for a few days. These stims have more of an obvious effect than that.

I have never tried phentermine so I can't comment on that
 
phentermine was awesome. it used to give me pleasant shivers all throughout the body and the libido was 50x. it had that shrunk dick effect though and i couldnt cum BUT just rubbing it was sending waves of extasy throughout the body!
 
You sure you aren't confusing phentermine for phenmetrazine, or were taking it in a combination product like Fen-Phen?
 
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