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Is the mass Chaos and divided opinion, a sign of the end of the World as we know it?

xbandit07x

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Im not saying this is the end of the world, but in biblical terms, this is supposedly according to many pastors and politicians a series known as the great rebellion.

A total overhaul of all ideas, systems, and religious institutions.

We are at the most divided time, and abeit chaotic time in all of human history. Take that as you will.
 
Religious wack jobs have been saying it's the end of the world since the beginning of religion.
 
Religious wack jobs have been saying it's the end of the world since the beginning of religion.

Longer. We currently live in a relatively peaceful time historically speaking. But people see what they want to see. And it's for that reason I'm not expecting any success appealing to reason or logic. If you determine the state of the world according to pastors that's clearly not gonna help.

But since it was asked. No. This isn't the end of the world as we know it. Because that day has long come and gone. We live in the world after the end of the world as it was for the longest time, and that's a good thing. And for that reason it is virtually impossible to predict the future in the long term. Because this is new territory.

I don't consider myself to be an atheist, but neither do I hold much regard for either the literal truthfulness of revelations, nor those who do.
 
Im not saying this is the end of the world, but...

We are at the most divided time, and abeit chaotic time in all of human history.

What overhaul? I'm not feeling any upheavals.

And I definitely don't think we're as divided/chaotic as during the Dark Ages, or either World Wars, just off the top of my head.

Please explain.


This might get more eyeballs in P&S. We'll move if we don't get many replies.
 
Funny I'd be worried that it would get less activity in p&s. But I guess it can't hurt if it doesn't see much activity here.

On the other hand, p&s might have some better discussions. CE&P can be a bit predictable and boring with its debates.
 
can a thread be in more than one forum at the same time or is that question akin to farting in an empty elevator and people get on at the next floor...?

Sort of. I'm pretty sure that you can move a thread so it continues to appear in its original forum as well as its new one.

So for example the mods move this thread to p&s. At which point it appears in both, CE&P and P&s and clicking on either goes to the same place.

That's my understanding anyway.
 
Not really, this is more p&s but whichever it could move but a redirect left so win win.


If you think over a long time period like centuries, as we are now its not really chaotic enough to have some kind of event that changes the future withing a short period of time.

A world war now would likely end in nuclear war and if survival at all then there will be regrowth over thousands of years.

If there were a massive catastrophe ie the tsunami except on a scale not been recorded before then honestly the well off people would be fucked far worse long term than those that live off the land.


Somethings going to happen but not in our lifetime unless a man made catastrophe.

Either way Im good.
 
Im awaiting the zombie apocalypse, think I should start becoming a doomsday prepper....

Half Life 2 is a good place to start. Ravenholm!

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Im awaiting the zombie apocalypse, think I should start becoming a doomsday prepper....

I often think that if an actual doomsday happened most of the preppers would be more upset by the fact that they can't keep prepping than anything else.

For the preppers, the doomsday isn't the point the prepping is. Once doomsday hits there's no more prepping. No more stockpiling. No more point. :)

You don't prep for the end of the world. The end of the world is the excuse. You prep because you enjoy it.
 
You don't prep for the end of the world. The end of the world is the excuse. You prep because you enjoy it.

Exactly. People can drop the "Hoarder" label and adopt a "Prepper" one.

Just like some people think of themselves as wine/beer enthusiasts, not alcoholics.
 
Preppers are just one of many type of collector. All that's unusual is their choice of collection. Hoarders are a little different because they will usually hoard anything and everything. And while collectors usually systemize and categorize their collection, hoarders often have no system beyond "its here somewhere".

At least most collectors, including preppers generally have a collection that has some real value. Hoarders often have little central theme and their "collection" has more in common with a dump than something of value.

You can have lots of fun with creative labeling with this..

It's not that hoarders have a problem they're just part of a ?decentralized waste disposal system?.
 
"A total overhaul of all ideas, systems, and religious institutions."

Sounds more like a metaphor for revolution, rather than the end of the world.
 
Exactly. People can drop the "Hoarder" label and adopt a "Prepper" one.

Just like some people think of themselves as wine/beer enthusiasts, not alcoholics.

Some bloke has dug 14 school busses deep undergroubd and covered them in thick layers of cement. Enough supplies etc for 500 people for a few years.


I hope hes single.


Theres not enough chaos yet. Just social media making out there is.
 
Seems more appropriate to P&S :)
 
No, it's not the end times... we are just experiencing the democratization of knowledge combined with information overload. There's a lot of decentralization and questioning of authority happening. Nobody holds all the keys anymore. We're heading toward collectivization and away from central authority. I don't necessarily mean communism/socialism, I mean that the focus is shifting toward mass consciousness and mass movements. It's not going to be one or two famous / genius people who save the world but the efforts of millions. So the Christians have it kind of wrong. "The one" messiah is not going to show up and make it all better, it's going to be masses of humans tuning into knowledge and one another who get the ball going.

Government as we know it has obviously failed and is going through a degeneration cycle, thanks to ongoing exposure of corruption in the information age. We have corporate oligarchies taking over our major institutions (one of the negatives of collectivization), but on the other hand we have environment and social pressures pushing back at these power dynamics.

My sense is that... the vast corporate infiltration is going to serve as the framework for the future human networks that will take care of this planet. The only thing that has to shift is the fiduciary responsibility. Right now it's about making profit at all costs. If those same material networks one day focused on planetary care, human supports, and sustainable material production, we could have a real paradise. I think it's possible, but in the transition there's going to be a lot of suffering and injustice. Old power/money just has a very narrow, particular way of viewing things that it won't let go of with its iron grip, even as the planet is on fire. I think future generations bring a lot of hope, by virtue of the practical realities. It will be Christ diffused among the masses.

Maybe it's because my life is ending soon that I feel hopeful for humanity. I used to be so jaded and think we are doomed but as my heart opens and I read between the lines... I mean, look at all the rich learning that's happening right now. We are quantum leaping in our understanding of so, so many things, even compared to just 10 years ago. 500 years ago the average person was illiterate, and the average literate person had a vocabulary of 2,000 words or less. Now we have computer networks and information technology spanning the entire planet.
 
^Great post Foreigner. Brought a tear to my eye. I love that the world has people like you to bring us to our senses.
 
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