Looking at your profile phr, the only posts of yours I see removed have been posts that... wait for it... break the rules.
You seem to have an expectation we will let you do whatever you please on BL. As a former staff member you?d best remember that isn?t how it works. Even in the old TL you had rules, now we are just enforced the rules uniformly across all forums.
You still want to talk about TL? You realize it?s moot? I am happy to see the BLUA more uniformly enforces across the site, you aren?t. Ostensibly this is because you?re no longer allowed to use the forum to ?playfully? called people faggots, niggers or whatever bigotry is popular that day.
I would argue it was always problematic for the BLUA not being enforced in the TL. You were part of a very small group of users who seemed to thrive on it. I understand why we might differ on our feelings about the rules now being enforced there. Besides, you?re still allowed to haze newcomers in TL, you?re just forced to be a little more creative with how edgy you are doing it.
No one was penalized for their behavior prior to the social transition because the rules were allowed to remain unenforced in the old TL. Folks like you ended up picking up infractions once we started enforcing the user agreement in TL and you picked up bans because you refused to play by the ?new? rules... which were actually always the rules even if they hadn?t been enforced much prior to he social transition.
You don?t seem to want to accept that the owners and staff decided to implement the rules that always technically applied in TL. But it happened. Deal with it, or get infracted for breaking the very basic rules when you do, or move on. No one is making you remain a BL user. It sure doesn?t seem like you want to.
I can?t help myself sometime taking your bait to discuss something that is no longer an issue, as in TL and having BLUA enforceable there or not simply is a nonissue. Why keep beating your head against the wall? Move on. I would do better to ignore your off topic posts here so as not to encourage discussion of an issue that is both not up for discussion (as in the BLUA will remain enforceable in TL whether you like it or not and regardless of the bile I spew about us offsite) and only at best tangentially related to the subject of this thread.
This thread isn?t for you phr, or droppers, or jah, or spiteful old now disenfranchised TL users. That is old business and it is not going to get reversed, especially considering how you and the clique handled it (or wasn?t able to handle it). In a way, you voluntarily gave up your chance of this even being a possibility given how you and others handled the transition to enforcing the rules.
This thread is first and formost about BPs concerns, which seems to be moving in the right direction as swilow has decided to step up. Thank you swilow and BP for beginning to move ahead addressing the actual issues at hand!
Please. Point me to posts where I called people niggers and faggots. Then point me to all of the infractions that I issued and the bans of my TL friends that I've handed out. You really are clueless.
Then, look at my infractions, the context, how egregious my behavior was, compare it to the behavior of other people that did not get infracted, and finally look at the two people that gave me the infractions. Then re-read the lines about "not issuing infractions to someone where it can be seen as personal." Then re-read the part about "senior staff deferring to forum mods" then look and see if there was any discussion about those infractions and deferring to the forum mods. My guess is there wasn't.
The one time there was, the last ban I received, I was talked to by BP. He said if I continue that behavior, again one sided as that behavior was being done to me as well, then I will be banned. I responded with I'll stop the behavior. Lo and behold a week or two later zephyr goes nuts, reports a ton of those posts, and the admin goes over what BP told me to ban me. All after I agreed to stop and heeded the warning my the mod. Again, for behavior that was the norm and the mods didn't say much about, other than warning me to stop. Again, all given to me by one of two people whom it's been nothing but personal between us. I reached out to discuss the ban and I was told "i will not discuss it with you because you don't show respect and discretion." Again, coming from someone who said "i don't care what you do or say off site."
You don't find it ironic that in one post in this thread I've been told, by the ruler of this site, the I'm "lucky not to be permabanned" and then in a post after that "that we don't care what you say off site and don't enforce that."
Man, you're something else.
Not once have I called people those words nor have I campaigned for those words to be used.
I've stated that TL was closed for personal reasons, powers were abused in closing it and running its posters (including myself) off site and that is what this thread is about.
so far it's been one sided.