Synaps3
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This is going to be a review of my favorite GABAergic sedatives. Here is the list of my top chemicals:
2m2b (2-methyl-2-butanol)
3m3p (3-methyl-3-pentanol)
Emylcamate
Soma (carisoprodol)
propanediol
GHB/GBL
Each of these has their pros and cons. I'll also try to outline their effects to the best of my ability.
2m2b:
Dose: 2-8ml
Taste: peppermint, solvent
This one is the most sedating/heavy of the bunch. Main effects last 2-3 hours and after effects up to 24 hours. The mind is pretty clear on this one (as with most), but despite being clear, thoughts are drastically slowed. There is also a crispness of senses and a narrowing of consciousness. The narrowing also results in an amplification of the task at hand. You feel almost as if all background noise in your mind has been reduced, leaving you with a slowed, more one track mind. There is also some dissociation from the environment. It leaves you with a sort of hollow feeling - tunnel mind if that makes sense.
Best uses: Sleep at high dose, anxiety reduction at low dose. The best for chilling and slowing down.
3m3p:
Dose: 2-5ml
Taste: spearmint, solvent
This feels almost identical to 2m2b. The only differences are that it is about 50% more potent and has more peripheral numbness.
Best uses: same as 2m2b
Emylcamate (carbamate ester of 3m3p):
Dose: 0.8 - 2g
Taste: minty, floral, perfume
This has the same effects as 3m3p except it is more potent and has less lingering sedation the next day.
Best uses: same
Soma:
Dose: 0.5 - 2g
Taste: bitter
This one has a more warm feeling compared to the others and more muscle relaxation. It is like GHB minus the euphoria. It has the same twitchy reflexes as GHB at high doses. This one is also the most discoordinating.
Best uses: sleep, muscle relaxation
Propanediol:
Taste: bitter
This is the diol backbone of both soma and meprobamate. It has the exact same effects, but much less potent. It is not worth trying, but I am including it for completeness. The dose is very high (2.5g) and it tastes terrible. The effects only last one hour.
Best uses: not worth it
GHB/GBL:
GHB Taste: salty
GBL Taste: vinyl, rubber
This is the most euphoric of the bunch. It feels a lot like soma to me, but less heavy and more energetic and happy.
Best uses: anxiety reduction, depression, sleep
1-ethyl-1-cyclopentanol (not ethynyl triple bond - ethyl):
Dose: 4-6ml
Taste: nasty, solvent, plastic
This is not something worth trying. I am just adding this here because it is another weird one I have tried. The effects are interesting. It is most like MXE, but it is pretty different. It feels like extreme heaviness and sedation. Everything seems like it is going 2 to 3 times as fast. Not like your mind is faster - it is slower, but it feels almost like your brain is skipping frames, making everything feel like it is happening faster, but your mind is just skipping over it. Listening to a song sounds like it is going much faster. The pitch of the sound is the same; it just feels like time is flying by. It also made me feel nauseous and the taste is unbearable - the worst of them all. This one could be pretty toxic. It has only been tested in rats. I don't think any other human has ever ingested this, so don't mess around with it. It could be toxic.
In order of addictiveness from worst to least:
GHB
3m3p
2m2b
Emylcamate
Soma
I will update with more details later.
** Update **
After effects (day after use):
2m2b - Lingering sedation up to 24 hrs. Everything seems more boring - not much interest or excitement in the usual activities. Walking around may feel slightly off-balance and speech is slowed a little, but not like drunk or anything. Otherwise thought processes seem normal.
3m3p - The same as 2m2b, but less pronounced. Interest in activities is still there if you are in the right mindset.
Emylcamate - Little to no after effects.
Soma - No after effects. Maybe even a slight increase in mood and energy the next day.
GHB - Weird headspace for 2-3 days after use. More easily annoyed by things. Head feels empty and vacant - like something is missing. Able to act normal socially, but feel like I am not very articulate. Much anxiety and hard to sleep the day after. This is why I don't use this too often. I was addicted to it for a while and the after effects continued to increase.
Out of all of these, I really feel that Soma has actually benefited me. It doesn't feel as good as the others, but it's nice to take before bed. It increases my sleep quality and I feel energized and not weird the next day like I do with the others. It is not very recreational; it is more utilitarian. The others are recreational, but I really don't see any long term benefit from using them. One exception is that emylcamate is good for anxiety, but you might get addicted.
*** Another update ***
Another thing about GHB I forgot to mention is that it makes you want to have sex. It is the date rape drug after all, but the sex part of it is real.
A weird thing I noticed that is not as obvious is that 2m2b also makes you want to have sex REALLY bad when you come off of it. On it, you don't feel like it at all, but when you come off of it, it is extreme. I think there must be some kind of hormonal thing that goes on because it doesn't feel as cerebral like the GHB does. It is pretty strong though and it's kind of annoying.
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2m2b (2-methyl-2-butanol)
3m3p (3-methyl-3-pentanol)
Emylcamate
Soma (carisoprodol)
propanediol
GHB/GBL
Each of these has their pros and cons. I'll also try to outline their effects to the best of my ability.
2m2b:
Dose: 2-8ml
Taste: peppermint, solvent
This one is the most sedating/heavy of the bunch. Main effects last 2-3 hours and after effects up to 24 hours. The mind is pretty clear on this one (as with most), but despite being clear, thoughts are drastically slowed. There is also a crispness of senses and a narrowing of consciousness. The narrowing also results in an amplification of the task at hand. You feel almost as if all background noise in your mind has been reduced, leaving you with a slowed, more one track mind. There is also some dissociation from the environment. It leaves you with a sort of hollow feeling - tunnel mind if that makes sense.
Best uses: Sleep at high dose, anxiety reduction at low dose. The best for chilling and slowing down.
3m3p:
Dose: 2-5ml
Taste: spearmint, solvent
This feels almost identical to 2m2b. The only differences are that it is about 50% more potent and has more peripheral numbness.
Best uses: same as 2m2b
Emylcamate (carbamate ester of 3m3p):
Dose: 0.8 - 2g
Taste: minty, floral, perfume
This has the same effects as 3m3p except it is more potent and has less lingering sedation the next day.
Best uses: same
Soma:
Dose: 0.5 - 2g
Taste: bitter
This one has a more warm feeling compared to the others and more muscle relaxation. It is like GHB minus the euphoria. It has the same twitchy reflexes as GHB at high doses. This one is also the most discoordinating.
Best uses: sleep, muscle relaxation
Propanediol:
Taste: bitter
This is the diol backbone of both soma and meprobamate. It has the exact same effects, but much less potent. It is not worth trying, but I am including it for completeness. The dose is very high (2.5g) and it tastes terrible. The effects only last one hour.
Best uses: not worth it
GHB/GBL:
GHB Taste: salty
GBL Taste: vinyl, rubber
This is the most euphoric of the bunch. It feels a lot like soma to me, but less heavy and more energetic and happy.
Best uses: anxiety reduction, depression, sleep
1-ethyl-1-cyclopentanol (not ethynyl triple bond - ethyl):
Dose: 4-6ml
Taste: nasty, solvent, plastic
This is not something worth trying. I am just adding this here because it is another weird one I have tried. The effects are interesting. It is most like MXE, but it is pretty different. It feels like extreme heaviness and sedation. Everything seems like it is going 2 to 3 times as fast. Not like your mind is faster - it is slower, but it feels almost like your brain is skipping frames, making everything feel like it is happening faster, but your mind is just skipping over it. Listening to a song sounds like it is going much faster. The pitch of the sound is the same; it just feels like time is flying by. It also made me feel nauseous and the taste is unbearable - the worst of them all. This one could be pretty toxic. It has only been tested in rats. I don't think any other human has ever ingested this, so don't mess around with it. It could be toxic.
In order of addictiveness from worst to least:
GHB
3m3p
2m2b
Emylcamate
Soma
I will update with more details later.
** Update **
After effects (day after use):
2m2b - Lingering sedation up to 24 hrs. Everything seems more boring - not much interest or excitement in the usual activities. Walking around may feel slightly off-balance and speech is slowed a little, but not like drunk or anything. Otherwise thought processes seem normal.
3m3p - The same as 2m2b, but less pronounced. Interest in activities is still there if you are in the right mindset.
Emylcamate - Little to no after effects.
Soma - No after effects. Maybe even a slight increase in mood and energy the next day.
GHB - Weird headspace for 2-3 days after use. More easily annoyed by things. Head feels empty and vacant - like something is missing. Able to act normal socially, but feel like I am not very articulate. Much anxiety and hard to sleep the day after. This is why I don't use this too often. I was addicted to it for a while and the after effects continued to increase.
Out of all of these, I really feel that Soma has actually benefited me. It doesn't feel as good as the others, but it's nice to take before bed. It increases my sleep quality and I feel energized and not weird the next day like I do with the others. It is not very recreational; it is more utilitarian. The others are recreational, but I really don't see any long term benefit from using them. One exception is that emylcamate is good for anxiety, but you might get addicted.
*** Another update ***
Another thing about GHB I forgot to mention is that it makes you want to have sex. It is the date rape drug after all, but the sex part of it is real.
A weird thing I noticed that is not as obvious is that 2m2b also makes you want to have sex REALLY bad when you come off of it. On it, you don't feel like it at all, but when you come off of it, it is extreme. I think there must be some kind of hormonal thing that goes on because it doesn't feel as cerebral like the GHB does. It is pretty strong though and it's kind of annoying.
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1,3-propanediol? Is that psychoactive?
