First of all, you can't use the name Aleph, its already taken, by Shulgin for the psychedelic amphetamine 2,5-dimethoxy-4-methylthioamphetamine.
And the 'fly' nomenclature is also already taken, for phenethylamine/amphetamine compounds with a benzodifuranyl tricyclic core
Nor can you use 'DOX' for that pyrillium thing, DOx/DOX is widely used nomenclature for 2,5-dimethoxy-4-substituted amphetamines, the amphetamine counterparts of the 2C series.
And after reading Sekio's post about A-the severe instability of pyrilliums, AND the fact that they,according to Sekio's reading on them, they are also highly reactive with amines. Think about this for a moment....what are proteins made of? XXXXX-acids. What are cells made of? proteins If you COULD isolate them they'd likely be toxic, and also, having that permanent charge, that would stop it passing the BBB, so they wouldn't be psychedelic even if they were stable.
Look at molecules like muscarine, hyoscine butylbromide, both quaternary amines, both restricted to acting on the peripheral side of the BBB. Same with MPTP, it has to be in the form of MPPP, so it can cross the BBB, enter dopaminergic neurons and then get metabolized via MAO-b to MPTP, which, being permanently charged, cannot leave the cell, and thus has plenty time to induce oxidative stress and go about frying your brain (although in Dresden's case, its too late for that already)
Sekio-No, I wasn't having a go at dresden for his half-witted 'doing his thing'
What I was having a go at him for, was that he quite specifically claimed, and I quote:
''Both Quite Good Intoxicants At The Grain (54 mg) or Two (108 mg) Level, I Reckon. Especially The Latter. ''
After his being a liar, and claiming to be an experienced drug designer, I forget the exact way he worded it, but all put together, he has told lies, and after falsely stating he has the requisite experience, being a qualified clandestine chemist basically. This can obviously, lead people who are either new to BL, or who aren't in any way chemists and as such have no experience themselves with which to refute his festering shitspeak, or are in some other way, naive enough to believe this repulsive little skid mark in the underwear of BL.
He has then actually, specifically drawn a pair of molecules and then claimed them to be good psychoactives at specific doses. Makes out like he has tried and/or made so many things he quite obviously (to us, to people who know what the fuck they are talking about) never has and never will, tells people LIES. lies which could lead someone to make such compounds as can exist in reality and which he has given both a dosage for and statement of activity. Or if they aren't chemists with the capability to make them themselves, then have them custom-synthed.
He is a liar, and a potentially dangerous liar. Not dangerous to himself, to himself, just delusional and fucked in the head. He can't be dangerous to himself since he hasn't the capability to do anything he claims he can and has. But to OTHER PEOPLE.
Since when, Sekio, is telling lies which make the poster who's the liar a danger to other bluelighters an acceptable thing to do?
Say, for example, that I was to draw a structure of some fentanyl analog that I'd never, in reality, had anything to do with. And then claimed to have made it, tested it on myself and found it was about the same potency as oral morphine, and that its a good idea to take it at 100mg orally.
And in actuality, the fentanyl analog I drew was as potent as etorphine or carfentanil. Would you just walk on by, after reading my 'advice' to people about my new 'super safe, I know because I've made it and tasted it myself, personally' fentalogue? or would you rip me a new set of arseholes and ram your foot down my beak and out of my backside?
Go on, Sekio. Justify your position here. Don't take it personally, you are one of the BLers I respect and like most, actually. But I'm calling you out on this one.
Your stance on allowing Dresden to tell lies, and reccommend to other people that things he has never made, and never tasted, are active at specific doses and are good psychoactives, how the FUCK can you ignore it when he goes past the point of just drawing pictures and giving them idiotic names and enters the realm of putting other BLers or lurkers in potential danger of actual bodily harm and/or death in the worst case?
Go on. Justify allowing him to do this? It goes way beyond mere idiocy, and starts putting people at risk. You do not have the choice to allow this. What if it was me? or any other poster? and say, either myself or another made a post as I spoke of, of a hypothetical new fentanyl analogue, claimed it was fine to take it at 100mg, because I or another BLer had actually made and used it themselves. Or claimed PMA was a delightful entactogen with a fantastic safety profile?
Go on, I challenge you, Sekio, to deny you are giving Dresden special treatment here, just because he is obviously a bit.....soft in the head and mentally burned out, and that you are allowing him to do what you would never for a second tolerate from any other member. Do it, if you can, and justify your stance.
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