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Feelings & concepts on "Anarchism"

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When you actually sit down & actually think about it "the system" we live under is a total fraud, we are taxed not just to make roads & run a health service but to also make bombs that are used on a group of small brown people many miles away for geopolitical control & oil, god knows what other sick reasons & I for one find that single fact totally sick, to be blunt I have blood on my OWN hands.

When here in the UK we have people like Google that "don't follow the line" & have more cash than nearly all the whole North does together & people are going to food banks, the NHS is falling apart, people are sleeping on the street while buildings sit empty, we have GMO fields that can pump out God knows what onto other fields etc you look at "the system" & find it is rotten. Then you have to ask yourself why this is & what can be done to make it fair for everyone (the first person to pull up Capital: Critique of Political Economy I will hunt down & shoot) you think to hell with this system.

Now I am no expert in "Anarchy" as Robert Anton Wilson said "Well I sometimes call myself a libertarian but that's only because most people don't know what anarchist means. Most people hear you're an anarchist and they think you're getting ready to throw a bomb at a building."
 
Nicely put.

The system we live in has a fatal flaw and it's unraveling in front of us. Being born before the information age has made it challenging to keep up with the increase in knowledge, for most of my life I believe we were on the correct course as humanity with minimal exceptions. Now I think the opposite has been true for as long as I've been here.

Giving up my broken belief in what I was told wasn't easy. Eventually I realized the world is getting smarter but not wiser and the reason is simple. We don't take time out to chase silence, our brains need time to finish all the half completed thoughts we were working on. In a society with zero down time I looked for the culprit and it really wasn't what I expected. I would advise anyone to consider where your time has gone to, and how to get it back.

Most large questions, like the nature of time or light etc, take years of deep contemplation before you can have a new insight, including a massive amount of information to absorb before understanding the field. To be truly influential or significant in any field of pursuit time spent trumps all other qualifiers.

For the next great advance of humanity we need to free our time and our minds so we can rethink how we are living and decide if we want another generation or not? I see a clear easy path out of this mess, for me it's simple, I don't have any belief of cracks to not step on. For some people they need to really look at their beliefs and question just what's up in their head.

If we don't dramatically change course soon we will rid the planet of most life for a long time.
 
Nicely put.

Thanks :)

I am NO leftist, SJW type BUT when I see farmers in India for example that only have the one option to feed their family & that comes down to buying sees from Monsanto to grow cotton. The seeds can only do one crop so to do any more they need to buy more seeds from a huge GMO company & they are selling them at such a huge rate the farmer goes skint & has huge debt. The only way out of this debt is to kill himself (yes this isn't some strange concept I have, I have seen many films on this subject where the men go into the fields & drink acid/drain cleaner etc & die) then the cotton they harvest goes to a sweatshop where children make clothes to be shipped into the UK & be sold at places like Primark at a cost that is equal to the whole months wage these kids earn, then we have snotty nosed thick teenage girls going round telling each other "how cute" they look in the clothes, to me they may as well have the blood & skin on their back of the people that made those clothes.

Primark workhouse in India fire a few months back, death rate at 1,400.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...pse-Death-toll-Bangladesh-set-jump-1-400.html

I swear "the system" as I shall call it is set so most folks are too wrapped up in "bullshit" to actually stop & think, take a really hard fucking look around them at the world we live in & the system we are under, they care more about "likes" on Facebook, what shit beer they will be drinking on a wk/end, having kids, what their friends think of their 5 year plan & other shit like that. I am going to be 38 this year & have NO KIDS & have no desire to bring any into this fucked system we are under, I see it as a kind of evil act, I mean God we are under attack from "them Muslims" nearly daily you know, I have no idea why though ;)

I swear if more people just removed the blinkers they had from their face, stopped to smoke a huge spliff & sat down in a silent room & just FUCKING USED THEIR BRAIN for a few moments that lightbulb may go off & htey will think "Damn I have been lied to & robbed for decades by people in power, these cunts are nothing special & they are corrupted right down to their very socks, the clothes I have on have been made in Vietnam & my yearly bill just for petrol is more than the GDP of the places I go on holiday to"

"The system" even though the semantic are loose when you use those words is corrupted to the very core & a change is needed badly, this planet I swear has less than another 200 years to go if we carry on at this rate, these are the days of Kali Yuga but it isn't too late to change, we just need to wake up in enough numbers & say "fuck the system, I am NOT taking this shit another day"

I swear to God I have had a concept that if people just for a week on mass didn't buy ANY Petrol & refused to go into work, took to the street & did a protest the whole UK over maybe the robbers, evil witches & cunts in power would be so moved something would change BUT people are too lazy to do that. God how would they be able to post ANY food shots onto instagram to show their "friends" & impress people huh?
The first cunt I saw there in a Che t-shirt though would be burned & I mean that.


For the next great advance of humanity we need to free our time and our minds so we can rethink how we are living and decide if we want another generation or not? I see a clear easy path out of this mess, for me it's simple, I don't have any belief of cracks to not step on. For some people they need to really look at their beliefs and question just what's up in their head.

If we don't dramatically change course soon we will rid the planet of most life for a long time.

Damn right there, I agree 100% mate.
 
bandito said:
I am NO leftist, SJW type

You say that like it's a bad thing :)
And you clearly seem to care about inequality and people - so don't let "conservative" propaganda get the better of you.
Caring about stuff - the world, society and peoples' wellbeing - and challenging systemic, hierarchical inequality is a good thing!
Personally i'm proud to "give a shit", and think that a lot of the hostility towards "the left" is extremely misguided, especially at the moment with fools like paul whateverhisnameis watson prattling on and spreading ridiculous nonsense about what people like me believe and value.
"Social justice" is worth fighting for.

Anarchism is incredibly misunderstood.
A simple way to understand it is that monarchy means that power is concentrated into a singular entity or institution, whereas anarchy is more of a shared power between people.
Power in the hands of the few (monarchy) versus power held by many (anarchy)
To me, a more egalitarian world is something worth fighting for.

What we have at the moment (in the way our economic and legal systems operate) are institutions that reinforce and compund social hierarchy and inequality.
The wealthy elite who own and control the majority of mass media have a huge amount of influence are able to project ideologies and values which consolidate and reinforce their power.
Unlike many of the conspiracy theories people get themselves caught up in, this is not some secret, shadowy fantasy - it's the reality of modern capitalism.

I find anarchist philosophy to be a lot deeper than the vast majority of "libertarian" perspectives that i come across.
Obviously they are both complicated terms, but ibertarians these days seem often fixated on their own needs, without giving much consideration to society around them or solidarity for their fellow citizens.
We are all individuals, but none of us lives in isolation; what we do affects others, just as the actions of others affect us as individual people.
Solidarity is a vital part of human social order, but the way this functions at the moment is through (occasionally violent) coercion; failing to participate in social norms can cost your liberty, your basic human needs (ie food, shelter) - even your life (agents of the state can detain, beat, even kill us).

I, for the most part, totally agree with you, that a lot of humanity's biggest problems and existential challenges are systemic in nature, and that we - as relarively affluent westerners - have a certain guilt in our complicity in a system and global hierarchy that is nothing short of barbaric.

A better and more sustainable world is possible, but it will take some radical changes.
Sadly, a lot of us in the west are too attached to convenience to put much effort or consideration into the cost (ecologically, socially, and everything else) of our plastic packaged world of cheap consumer goods and other modern conveniences.

I think you're definitely right in suggesting that people in the developed, western world don't give a second thought to the fact that the standard of living we enjoy is directly detrimental of a lot of people in other parts of the world.
Maybe not as indiciduals - but certainly collectively.

"Leftist" might be a dirty word to some people who ridicule and misrepresent a lot socially and economic 'progressive' ideas - but the gist of your post sounds pretty "left wing" to me :)

(That's a compliment, by the way)

On the other hand, anarachism often transcends the left/right dualism.

But if you're saying that the way we live for is needlessly destroying our planet and exploiting our fellow humans - you're speaking my language.
I honestly don't care about left or right wing categorisations - but i strongly dislike the selfish nihilism i see in a lot of "right wing" ideologies. And - for the most part - i largely disgree with right wing values, so i guess that makes me left... right? ;)

Y'know - i don't agree with the belief that it's somehow 'the natural order of things' to put the interests of your tribe (whether it's people within your nation state, ethnicity, gender, region etc etc etc) over everybody else's needs.
Humanity is such an incredible thing, and to me it's heartbreaking to see us poisoning our planet (the air, the oceans, the landscape) for the sake of having plastic, disposal convenience.

Our materialism - and our laziness - is eating away at the future of our species, and there is a direct correlation between the increasing wealth of the minority and the hardships of the majority - despite the claims of neo-liberal ideologues.

The systems we are a part of, and contribute to, are extremely damaging to humanity and to the ecological balance that sustains our existence.

Is a better world possible? Yes, of course it is.

The question is how to make it so.
Ss individuals there is only so much difference we can make - but that's no reason not to try.

Personally i try to live simply and support industries and companies that have ethical business models.
Whether that is paying more for products that aren't made in sweat shops, or avoiding single-use plastic and other environmentally destructive things.

But I don't have any illusions about how much positive influence i have in doing that - it's largely negligible - but i still endeavour to be as ethical a consumer as possible.
The more people support businesses that are socially and environmentally responsible, the better - but it would be naive to think that we can affect real change on our own, because the problems you mention are systemic in nature.

I'm not a huge fan of idealism in politics, and i think it is important to be as pragmatic as possible, which is part of the reason i have a problem with political labels and categorisations (ie left/right, socialist/communist/anarchist
etc).
I think it is likely that the most hardline idealists are probably those that achieve the least in terms of political outcomes in the real world, which is why "anarchism" is a framework for me, rather than a utopian vision for a perfect world.
There is no such thing as a perfect world - but there is always room for improvement - to strive for a better world.
Putting labels aside, i think you are absolutely on the right path :)
 
spacejunk.

I gone through that post & respect for the reply, it is one of the best I've seen on here in reply to any comment or post I have made.
I started to do a reply that I want to put across & grafted part out on Word to cut/paste the whole thing but atm I am very stoned & not smooked in months & am really stoned.

Gimme a day to do a reply worthy of doing, ou follow mee?
 
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