The OP i'm sure has forgotten about starting his thread, as I would have, but let me reiterate what has already been said here, and should be cannonical to taking herbs, certainly adpatogens, and absolutely all of the capsuled ones: you need to take a lot, and I mean A LOT, for a few days in order to find the first fact out whether it works for you or not. many aren't the same for most people, in fact I find that rare amongst my friends: I take ashwagandha and gotu gola religiously, but that's what I found worked forme,doing things that I would expect a prescribed antidepessant would do. But I needed to forgo the nonsense of capsules and weak-ass extracts and go with the straight herb: ten grams a day of each at least, down the hatch with some food around it.if you're sober as a doberman but feel unright I suggest combining adaptagens in this way in high doses -high enough to evoke a genuine physiological response. herbs are additive in certain ways, more WILL affect you, and in this case I always advocate more.You can do no wrong when it comes to things so safe as these.