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Mental Health Is Pristiq (desvenlafaxine) less toxic than cymbalta (Duloxetine)?

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I need a stimulating antidepressant but cymbalta is hard on the liver but I?m not sure if Pristiq is much safer. It?s bad for depression and anxiety knowing every time you pop your lifelong meds your taking one that?s the most poisonous.
 
I have been taking pristiq since I was 13 and so far I have not had any problems with my liver or anything
 
Interesting for sure...I tried switching it with my celexa for one day and was more anxious (understandably so, celexa made me zonked until my body adjusted) so perhaps I?ll try a higher dose of pristiq
 
Very helpful... right now I take celexa Prozac and lamictal, if it weren?t for the constant inner agitation from this I would be okay. Do all antidepressants cause this feeling like I can never relax?
 
I think the literature suggests that effexor is mostly serotonergic (mostly, due to desvenlafaxine, which is much more adrenergic, being a metabolite) at lower doses, maybe below 150mg. But don't quote me on that! Some people have had great success with various forms of anxiety, as well as depression, with effexor.

So Cymbalta and Pristiq have adrenergic action at much lower doses than effexor. I may be wrong, but if pristiq is still on patent, that might be largely why people are given cymbalta, or higher doses of effexor (that is, as far as I know, tapered up to)

The effexor/pristiq withdrawal are somewhat notorious, as it would seem. There was a study that determined opioidergic activity in it. Hang on a bit..

So I could see why this would be. This study relates noradrenergic activity to analgesia: https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s40263-014-0151-9

More evidence: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0014299914003550

This means that SNRIs, mostly NRI activity, fights neuropathic pain indepdent from opioid receptor activation. https://www.karger.com/Article/Abstract/345035

For example, if someone is critically injured, the "fight-or-flight" response occurs, and a shock period, though I'm not knowledgeable of the specifics. But this shock period may then render pain reduced? Any other advanced neuro people want to weigh in?

If i recall, cymbalta is actually FDA-approved for neuropathic pain, which means a lot.

So it doesn't really matter how it happens. If its effective and safe and prescribed in a reasonable manner by a doctor, then good.
 
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