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ketamine for depression is widely available, what are the reports??

I am a registered nursing student and have a strong interest in mental health treatment. I know many people find and self treat with ketamine, but I believe that if the prices were lower more people trying to self medicate could afford to receive ketamine therapy. I learned about the use of ketamine for depression, anxiety, PTSD and chronic pain while preparing a big term paper. While gathering data and studying the topic, I have read dozens and dozens of studies that demonstrate how effective ketamine infusions can be for treatment resistant depression. During my research, I came across an online ketamine infusion course at http://www.ketmineacademy.com. This course aims to help teach other providers how to safely administer ketamine infusion therapy in an outpatient setting. More medical professionals trained to offer this service will result in lower prices nationally, it simple economics. I think this course is helping to achieve that and the creator is actually running one of the lowest cost ketamine infusion clinics in the US!
I think it is fantastic that such a course is available online! Surely many patients will benefits from having better access to ketamine infusion therapy and so I wanted to share it here for anyone who may be interested in learning how to administer ketamine and/or start a ketamine clinic. The more doctors and nurse practitioners that offer this service, the higher the chance that patients can accesslow cost ketamine therapy near them. The course contains videos, audio, text, articles, quizes and even an hour long interview with a patient who receives ketamine infusion therapy. I was able to sign up for a free trial of the ketamine infusion therapy course by Ketamine Academy by visiting this link https://www.ketamineacademy.com/users/checkout/auth
I even called to talk with LT Jason Duprat BS, BSN, MSN, CRNA to ask questions about the course. He is the course creator and ketamine clinic owner. He is extremely knowledgeable and seems to have a real passion for helping patients by teaching as many providers as possible about ketamine therapy. He offers a 10% military discount and said that he emails steep (upto $500 off) course discounts several time a year.
If you are a health care provider interested in providing ketamine therapy at an existing or new clinic. I would recommend you consider this course. His clinic website is https://www.infusionclinicabq.com/
 
im trying real hard to find reliable priced ketamine therapy place, but it doesnt go lower than 500 for a dose. its such a huge bullshit since im antidepressant resistant and i have done ALL OF THEM, and if i dont find some good reliable ketamine clinic, i have to just drown myself or something, i cannot handle it any longer
 
goddamn how do i get help with treating my depression visiting ketamine clinic. its so expensive! i need at least 1300 dollars for full treatment. any clues as how to get a help regarding this??
 
Agreed very expensive seems mostly because of having the anesthesiologist on hand, depending on clinic overhead.
I?ve sat in on prolly about 75 infusions in clinic with higher doses 100+ mg and rarely have seen the need for medication interference via blood pressure meds anti vomiting etc, I think as some clinics are able to do many infusions at once with one anesthesiologist on deck it will become much cheaper hopefully. There are some medical payment plans out there that are used for surgery?s usually but apply here to as it?s just a pre surgery.
I wonder how long til infusion clinics will pop up in Mexico? There is some amount of IM therapy being offered at some of the psycadelic treatment centers in Mexico and South America but I haven?t seen any Medacine pumps being used which obviously investigate any clinic to be used to make sure it?s trustworthy.
A lot clients we bring there are able to feel if it?s going to be a practical therapy after the first infusion, all knew by three though.
Some private insurances are helping clients with infusions but it seems minimal at this point as it?s stll ?off lable.?
Anyway I would like to see various comparisons of infusions via medicine pump and Intermusucular injections i know Medacine pumps are ?better? in most cases but IM could be administered by nurse at a fraction of the price with a program monitored by an anesthesiologist... anyway end ramble
 
Agreed, seems like they need to change regulations on this... an anaesthesiologist present because ketamine is traditionally used as an anaesthetic? No anaesthetic dosages are given so what is the point? Aren't drugs like fentanyl also used as anaesthetics but also as analgesic? Bad example of course because fent is risky but I don't see why K has to be.

The high prices really suck for patients, damn :( Are big pharma lobbying hard to slow these developments down so they can peddle their SSRI's etc?
 
Can anyone help me with some therapeutic ketaset im just now learning the legal methods , I am on experienced with the glorious k holes I enjoyed when I was using
 
I am in the states, and I am prescribed Ketamine nasal spray. Its 875 mg per bottle, and about 2 shots in each nostril is enough to give me a dissociated, yet highly alert and functional state where my depression is completely obliterated. It's very short lived though, and at $85/bottle the cost kind of outweighs the benefits for me.
 
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Noah quest said:
Can anyone help me with some therapeutic ketaset im just now learning the legal methods , I am on experienced with the glorious k holes I enjoyed when I was using
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I used to enjoy K and MXE quite a bit and got to the point of inter muscular injections once a week, then rehab. I do have serious Major Depression and recently got electroconvulsive therapy. The technology involved has been updated and it included IV ketamine injection 50mg (Propanol and other shit, too) IV ketamine isn't nearly as enjoyable. Legal ketamine clinics do one IV injection a month for around $500+ (a few years ago it was $1000 a treatment, and I happen to know for clinics, they spent about $10 for each injection) So keep looking on the black market or darknet or something.
 
mp44god said:
I am in the states, and I am prescribed Ketamine nasal spray. Its 875 mg per bottle, and about 2 shots in each nostril is enough to give me a dissociated, yet highly alert and functional state where my depression is completely obliterated. It's very short lived though, and at $85/bottle the cost kind of outweighs the benefits for me.
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how did you get it prescribed?? is it some ketamine specialist doctor? im in illinois i wonder if they have those here...
also, maybe you should switch to IV for longer half life if spray is too short lived?
 
asecin said:
very interesting stuff.

i wonder since ketamine is just widely available in veterinary medicine, this way much easier to acquire it than paying 500 dollars per dose???
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Yes,^ that way or use the DN marketplaces.
One can procure a 10ml bottle of Vet. grade K 100mg/ml for 175-180 bucks US shipped to you in 2-3 days. You just need that one vendor...he's out there.
I know 175 bucks is expensive, but you know exactly what you're getting.
Personally, I wouldn't do powdered K if it was given to me.
 
I did a major self-study that I posted to BL years ago about this very subject:
http://www.bluelight.org/vb/threads/669468-Experience-with-ketamine-therapy-for-depression

Some of my info is going to be dated because there's a lot more research into ketamine and mental health that's been accomplished since then.

For me, heroic / dissociative / k-hole doses did not have the same long-term positive effect as sub-threshold nootropic doses. At 10-12mg frequent doses I felt my brain healing in a very sustained, long-term way that eventually did not require much upkeep. The heroic doses on the other hand helped me feel better for a few weeks and then I'd relapse. I feel that the lower doses act more as a nootropic and the heroic doses are more about psychological impact.

In my case I didn't need to explore the psychology as much as I just needed my PTSD-damaged brain to heal.

I can say with certainty that ketamine fixed all relevant aspects of my life-long depression that it could. I no longer got depressed for no reason. My mental health problems these days are due to real life circumstances (chronic, life threatening disability will do that to a person) but back when I was getting depressed for no real reason (I assume biochemical) the ketamine fixed it.
 
Foreigner said:
I did a major self-study that I posted to BL years ago about this very subject:

For me, heroic / dissociative / k-hole doses did not have the same long-term positive effect as sub-threshold nootropic doses. At 10-12mg frequent doses I felt my brain healing in a very sustained, long-term way that eventually did not require much upkeep. The heroic doses on the other hand helped me feel better for a few weeks and then I'd relapse. I feel that the lower doses act more as a nootropic and the heroic doses are more about psychological impact.
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Pretty much all I did were large IM doses, but since I wasn't depressed to begin with I didn't really notice that sort of effect. If anything, I was more depressed after a weekend of bingeing on that shit than before I started.
I have since quit using it and am better off for it.
Different floats for different boats tho.
 
phuckingnutz said:
Pretty much all I did were large IM doses, but since I wasn't depressed to begin with I didn't really notice that sort of effect. If anything, I was more depressed after a weekend of bingeing on that shit than before I started.
I have since quit using it and am better off for it.
Different floats for different boats tho.
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Ketamine is a pretty amazing drug. At high doses it causes prefrontal damage and at low doses it can repair the same damage. I used to abuse ketamine during my raving days and I always got depressed for days after heavy use.
 
Foreigner said:
Ketamine is a pretty amazing drug. At high doses it causes prefrontal damage and at low doses it can repair the same damage. I used to abuse ketamine during my raving days and I always got depressed for days after heavy use.
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I quit doing it for that reason...the "depressed for days" reason.
 
depressed for days? is that with high doses at raves? because its supposed to be an antidepressant, that is its main indication now days.
 
asecin said:
depressed for days? is that with high doses at raves? because its supposed to be an antidepressant, that is its main indication now days.
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Yes, high...ish doses?

160-200mg@160 lbs...no more tho...there are better ways to fly, IME.

I liked it OK, but there was no afterglow...only afterwhoa.

I hope it works for you tho.
 
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