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What's the purpose of a human?

jammin83 said:
there is no such thing as a an "abrahamic" style of God. abrahamic is an intentional obfuscation of a god "shared" among faiths. the god of the talmud and the babylonian kabbalah is lucifer and not the same god as the father of Jesus, and not the Allah of the koran. so as these are speaking of separate entities, i disbelieve in this concept of an "abrahamic style of god". if these were the same god you would hold the same feeling towards islam as you do towards christians. going further, i believe the general consensus is that islam is a peace oriented religion, whereas christianity is some sort of regressive thorn in society. lets not forget that a more "conservative" form of islam allowed women to drive this year. Progress indeed.
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Abrahamic means relating to the Old Testament god of Abraham - Abraham being a potentially historical, definitely somewhat mythological figure shared between the Abrahamic religions. This definition is based on the aspects of religious mythology which these religions share, and makes no implications about the nature of the Abrahamic God or Gods spawned by the first iteration of the original story of Abraham, the details of which are likely now lost to the past forever. That said, Abrahamic religions and Abrahamic interpretations of who or what "God" is do have a lot more in common with each other than they do with, say, ancient Scandinavian Paganism. Sorry but I do not think your position on the validity of the "Abrahamic" term is justified, at least not for the reasons you've given.
 
There is no purpose, other than to grasp at whatever pleasure we're able to wrest from life. This sense of purposelessness is a huge factor in my issues with depression.
 
Well.... i for one think we all have a purpose , more the just shitting and eating and partying and having kids and dying. Having NO purpose just sounds dam morbid to me.
There are some people who have felt like they have found their purpose in life. Like Jim carry , recently I heard one of his speeches (good stuff) (imo) he said one day he realized that his purpose was to free people from concern.
He says "how will you serve the world? What do they need that your talent can provide? That's all you have to figure out."
So you can take that as oh, so my purpose is to make other people happy ?and say screw that.
But once you realize that we ARE actually each other , apart of each other, that makes a little sense , and it's not such a bad thing.
I have realized the importance of self love recently. I have an overwhelming urge to want to help people and Animals and connect with nature. (May be a clue to MY purpose here. )
Anyway , I realized that if I truly want to be of any help to anyone , and love anyone I have to love MYSELF. Because I realized that I am just as much apart of others as they are of me. Not loving myself effects everyone else and even the whole planet.
im one of those people , who believes this sort of thing , because of experiences I have had. To say the least.
Lots of people have claimed to have found their purpose in life.
Well I think we all come with a purpose here. It's different for everyone , the individual may be here to learn a lesson. Something specific to there own development , but ultimately we are all on a journey back to god / source which is really in ourselves , and also in everyone else which is also us..... In a way....
 
Yompf, that's really well said. I've watched a few pieces by Jim Carey and was really taken back. I've never been a fan of comedy movies or of him personally and I wouldn't have bothered except for comments other's had made about him. It was shocked to see how close some of his thoughts were to my own.

While I am unable to put an exact purpose in my entire life and existence, I can see my purpose in being where and when I am. I do see all humanity as connected and even beyond just humanity, all life. I don't see a difference between the life we grow and eat both animal and vegetable as I see our consciousness as being connected. It gets horrifyingly difficult to discuss but it's not an understanding that brings urgency or worry or a need to get anything done. It's an understanding that let's me move through life with the purpose of being available to fill any gap in humanity that needs filling that I am able to.

From things as simple as helping a homeless person or opening a door for someone, to building teams of volunteers to assist in disasters, it is all about us, the life that is here on earth. The presence that I would describe as God is in all of us, we can all feel it but it doesn't fit the description the person beside us might use. In the past we would kill over a disagreement, some people would still do that today so I always encourage education about this world and the life here in all its forms. Today my purpose is waiting beyond my first cup of coffee, I wake up each morning with childlike excitement to see what this day holds.

I do believe we live in a broken world and I see hints of it all around when we find these great ancient buildings still standing 30 thousand years after their construction and I marvel at how we were once a race that was even more advanced then today in building technology. We were probably more advanced socially as well. I see the world on the cusp of reclaiming itself and humanity just about to wake up. We've done some shitty things to each other and we will never achieve payback or justice but we can achieve peace and harmony if we stop trying to account for everything. To me this is still Eden, the snakes don't talk and we all prefer clothes but beyond my obligation as a human to take care of (YOU) this world is an amazing place I can play in and experience.

Learning to love myself with all my horrible mistakes required learning to forgive myself, to forgive myself I needed to realize I couldn't fix it or even do anything about the poor choices I had made. I tried hard to find some foothold in religions but they are all pretty slippery, still they all had some great teaching if you learned to sort the obvious legalism and fear from the bits of truth.

Today I know God as (YOU) and if I pay attention today will be awesome, no purpose really beyond that.
 
Vastness said:
Abrahamic means relating to the Old Testament god of Abraham - Abraham being a potentially historical, definitely somewhat mythological figure shared between the Abrahamic religions. This definition is based on the aspects of religious mythology which these religions share, and makes no implications about the nature of the Abrahamic God or Gods spawned by the first iteration of the original story of Abraham, the details of which are likely now lost to the past forever. That said, Abrahamic religions and Abrahamic interpretations of who or what "God" is do have a lot more in common with each other than they do with, say, ancient Scandinavian Paganism. Sorry but I do not think your position on the validity of the "Abrahamic" term is justified, at least not for the reasons you've given.
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Which was my original point. I said that the point of life if you believe in an Abrahamic style God is whatever you think God says it is. I didn't wanna just say God cause it's too nondescript and not all gods of all beliefs have such qualities. But nooo apparently that was pedantic of me or something.
 
On a spiritual level the purpose of life is to form a connection with God. All material achievements don't erase the emptiness many of us feel inside and the pointlessness life sometimes seems to consist of.

On a secular level the purpose of life is to procreate.

(Opinions of course. I'm right though.)
 
It's amazing how different we all are, truly beautiful how unique we all are.

Many people see things that would drive others mad, and live with that every day.
 
All there is, is lessons.

The universe is a school.

Learning is fun.
 
My purpose now is to find a sustainable way througj what feels like endless suffering. I believe there is a way and I think I'm on the cusp of it too. I think its akin to what C_T said. Standing tall within the storm, seeing it for what it is and accepting it.

Boy, do I need to overcome this. The only other option is that one final leap into oblivion but I desperately want to live through this. I can see the life I want so close I can almost touch it. Its just always just out of reach. Or is it?

When I find the way, I'll draw a map and hopefully help other fellow travellers on this truly dark place of pain.
 
Well it's not the purpose I wanted that's for sure. I was hoping that looking and seeing would constitute something more positive and fun.

What I've done myself as I wait it out is to take up a losing cause but one that I can truly believe in. In fact there is a forum for it now. You might want to check it out. I think you'll like most of the posters there. I post there as Icelander.
http://antinatalism.freeforums.net/
 
Eating pain is still a worthy life. It takes severe torture to make life not worth living. Even through child abuse and jail, life was still worth the meager dinner that was offered me.

I remember looking up photos of war victims and stories of rape as a teenager to strengthen my ability to see. I kept a picture of a boy with no arms to remind me that life was good. The boy smiled for the camera. His arms were blown off and bandaged. Whenever I feel down, I look at that piece of death porn and I feel better.

You don't need anything but an incoming meal to keep hope up.
 
You'll have to speak for yourself on that one. I don't see anything worthy or beautiful or whatever about a very pain filled existence.
 
lazydullard said:
Eating pain is still a worthy life. It takes severe torture to make life not worth living. Even through child abuse and jail, life was still worth the meager dinner that was offered me.

I remember looking up photos of war victims and stories of rape as a teenager to strengthen my ability to see. I kept a picture of a boy with no arms to remind me that life was good. The boy smiled for the camera. His arms were blown off and bandaged. Whenever I feel down, I look at that piece of death porn and I feel better.

You don't need anything but an incoming meal to keep hope up.
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I can't relate to this. Personally, if all I had to look forward to was dinner I'd have been swinging from a rafter years ago.

Hope is usually a desire for something better. I would suggest that its almost an evolved "carrot" to keep us going to mindlessly propagate our genes. Sometimes I think there is no hope for anyone. After all, we are born to inevitably die and this inescapable fate makes maintaining hope a question of degrees of illusion and how convincingly we can wall off our impending doom.

That smiling boy probably spent years crying himself to sleep.

I'd rather see what is really happening now and doing what I can to overcome it rather than settling for something meaningless.
 
I one day discovered that I literally could not kill myself, that my hands would not make the necessary motions, that I could not overcome the physical pain.

From then on, living has been getting easier and easier. My days are lighter than when I was a child.

I literally have no choice but to live, and I think most people are in the same boat as me. I'm not good at anything but eating and sleeping, but I must say, those are exalted experiences.

Meaning is suspicious and super personal. I can pull all the meaning I need to live from the acts of being comfortable and full. I'm trying to share that meaning, but it may not be available to you.
 
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