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Mental Health Is this night terrors?

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Lately I've been waking up from my sleep kicking at some imaginary target. Would this be considered night terrors? I don't think I've ever been vocal but I have't woken myself throwing punches or kicks at various times in my life. I think it's from stress but not totally sure.
 
I take .5mgs of xanax twice a day and 20-40mgs of propranolol. My depression's been kind of bad recently also.
 
Sounds stress-related to me, but that's just a guess.
Must be pretty scary and irritating to get woken up like that :(
 
Not really, just annoying unlike sleep paralysis. That's kind of scary. It's a good thing I sleep alone I guess.
 
I always thought night terrors are basically bad dreams? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_terror I hope you get relief from them. Do you take benzos, sleeping pills like ambien, or take other drugs? It could also be stress related.

Not quite. Night terrors are generally particularly bad nightmares that result in the dreamer screaming in the real world. With night terrors more of e dream behavior crosses into the real world than a normal nightmare. With a normal nightmare it's closer to a normal dream, most of it is confined to the dream world and only mildly crosses into the real. For the dreamer, a night terror is generally more intense Han a regular nightmare, but the more noticeable difference between the two is for the witnesses in the real world. You notice that their screaming and words are said more in real life than just in the dream. And most notably it's not uncommon for someone experiencing night terrors to sort of wake up, but still be in the mindset of a dream. In other words they still believe the dram world fiction, and it can be harder to get them to realize that it was just a dream and not the real world.

In a dream you tend to forget the things that would make it obvious that it's not real. Like how you got there and the content, but usually when you wake up u pretty quickly return to a real life mindsets with night terrors that switch in your head where you register you are in the real world rather than the dream world can take longer to reset. In other words the person with night terrors believes and behaves like the real world is still the dream world, often for several minutes after seemingly waking up

That's the main difference, for the dreamer the big difference is intensity, but for the awake people witnessing someone with night terrors they are a lot easier to tell apart from a nightmare. Because a person with night terrors will generally be a lot louder with their behavior in the dram being acted out in the real world. And with it being much harder to get them to realize they are awak instead of dreaming.

Basically night terrors are where our normal systems that keep our dream behavior affecting our real world behavior don't work correctly. Normally we will be asleep and immobile for the entire dream, with little or nothing of what we do in the dream being expressed in reality. Even with nightmares it is still fairly detached. You might hear the person mumble or cry in their sleep or toss and turn, but they shouldn't get up and talk to you not realizing their mind is still acting like it's in a dream. With night terrors it doesn't work properly so you start screaming and yelling in the real world, and you can talk to someone in real life and not realize you're awake, still behaving like you were still asleep, because in many ways you still are, you just don't look it.

I hope this wasn't too hard to understand. Many sleep problems involve the normal things our brains do to keep our dreams from influencing our waking behavior failing. Sleep paralysis for example is when the normal immobilization your brain does to keep your movements in the dream world happening in reality fails to shut off when you wake up. Sleep walking is the opposite, where it fails to start to begin with. And night terrors are generally where youre both moving and talking in real life and the line between awake and dreaming gets very blurry.

Night terrors are common in children but usually stop around adolescents. One common reason for adult night terrors is suffering a trauma. PTSD stuff. As are nightmares and sleep problems in general. I have nightmares but not night terrors. At least not very often.

Benzos help because benzos tend to suppress dreaming in general. But when you start trying to get off them they do the exact reverse. Some of my words nightmares and shit have come from benzo withdrawal. So I'd be careful with them.

Hope any of what I said helps and I hope it wasn't too hard to follow. I've had sleep problems as long as I can remember. I still have occasional nightmares from my own PTSD shit, not nearly as often as I used too, but sometimes.

One thing that helped me was learning about lucid dreaming. Being able to recognize being asleep and taking control of a nightmare. Lucid dreaming abilities vary in difficulty. so say you are being attacked, as is often the case with my trauma related nightmares, learning to get a weapon in the dream and fight back isn't too hard to do. But with time and practice you can eventually stop and change he dream entirely. Cool stuff. And it's a way that doesn't involve addictive substances, so I'm a big supporter of it.

Dreams are generally rehearsals. Your mind preparing for things. With a bit of randomness thrown in because of the reduced state of consciousness. So you will tend to treat about stuff that concerns you in real life. Hence why trauma victims tend to constantly dream about the traumas. It's your mind trying to prepare in case it happens again in a safe environment. So if you repeatedly dream of being physically attacked and having to defend yourself, I would ask if such physical altercations are something you worry about a lot. That would be the most likely reason. That much of your live involves concern of ending up in a physical fight. How often it actually happens isn't as important as how much you worry about it. That will be why you're having the dreams. Dreams are rehearsals for what concerns you. There is some degree of pure randomness too, but that's the main driving influence in dream content as far as what dreams "mean".

I hope any of this helps, but I promise you're not alone. Even after all this time where now my trauma related nightmares ar efairly infrequent, my sleeping is still problematic. Every night I'll go to sleep with the bed made and every morning I will wake up and have destroyed it. My boyfriend was particularly frustrated by it.

Good luck.
 
My ex husband has night terrors. He'd wake up screaming. Run through the house kicking things. It was scary.

I'd stand back. I would grab our daughter out of her crib- and go the opposite way. He sometimes kicked pictures off the wall.

He told me it was a re-current dream. He was walking through dark, scary woods. He'd get the sense he was being chased. He'd run and come to a lake w black water.

In it was the scariest, most grotesque monster he ever saw. It had several tentacles and his mother's face.

I wonder what was going on there.
 
I have night terrors and when I wake up I'm having nightmares while i'm still awake until I ground myself.

Damn flashbacks.
 
I used to wake up screaming at the top of my lungs like I was in a horror film. The whole house could hear it. The embarrassing night terror happened while I was asleep with my ex boyfriend. Apparently, I sat up and screamed in his direction while he was going towards the door. He teased me about it after that. At least he poked fun at it instead of being afraid and thinking I was a psycho. It makes you feel totally helpless because it's out of your control. I haven't done it in quite a while so hopefully it's over.

I definitely think it's stress and fear about real life circumstances you need to face.
 
They became worse if he was overtired.

He didn't only scream- it was very violent. It wouldve been dangerous to try and touch him. Id try to wake him by saying his name.
 
Lately I've been waking up from my sleep kicking at some imaginary target. Would this be considered night terrors? I don't think I've ever been vocal but I have't woken myself throwing punches or kicks at various times in my life. I think it's from stress but not totally sure.

I would say it is. My dad had it happen to him a few times. Last time he had a bad episode he kicked the bedroom window and sliced his foot. Poor guy wasn't able to work for 8 weeks as he wasn't able to walk on his foot.

That scared the shit out of everyone in the house. We thought a burglar had broken in or something.
 
I dont think it is. I agree with Jess that night terror bleed over into reality and you honestly are not sure if what you experienced is real or not. Its absolutely terrifying and you would certainly be more descriptive of what went down.
 
I dont think it is. I agree with Jess that night terror bleed over into reality and you honestly are not sure if what you experienced is real or not. Its absolutely terrifying and you would certainly be more descriptive of what went down.

Hit the nail on the head. I have them pretty frequently. Every time it takes me a while to realize that I was dreaming. And I always remember it vividly, that might just be me though, all my dreams are very vivid
 
I thankfully do not get them much at all anymore. When I do, absolutely horrific sleep paralysis usually accompanies them. Its a hoot.
 
dat paralysis though plus em voices. twice this week.. semi-disturbing
 
What you describe sounds like an REM Sleep Disorder.

Both my dad and I have/ had (dad died from multiple system atrophy aka: double Parkinson's disease) this violent dreaming with kicking walls and violent behavior, moving around, speaking. We never knew it was even a symptom until my dad got real sick and the first question the specialist asked him was if he had this. We both looked at each other like "oh shit!"

Apparently, it is considered a "pre-cursor" to Parkinson's disease.

The specialist/neurologist doctor told us they need to be controlled as they actually cause brain damage. The only two options were melatonin (made both of us mental) or clonazepam.
We both had to use the clonazepam.
 
Night terrors are generally particularly bad nightmares that result in the dreamer screaming in the real world. With night terrors more of e dream behavior crosses into the real world than a normal nightmare. With a normal nightmare it's closer to a normal dream, most of it is confined to the dream world and only mildly crosses into the real. For the dreamer, a night terror is generally more intense Han a regular nightmare, but the more noticeable difference between the two is for the witnesses in the real world. You notice that their screaming and words are said more in real life than just in the dream. And most notably it's not uncommon for someone experiencing night terrors to sort of wake up, but still be in the mindset of a dream. In other words they still believe the dram world fiction, and it can be harder to get them to realize that it was just a dream and not the real world

That's a pretty much spot-on description of most night terrors. Sometimes the fleeting dream theme seems to carry over into the waking world. I ran out the front door once because I thought a train was coming at my bed!

I was plagued by night terrors as a young man from my mid/late teens into my early 20's, which is like the textbook most common population of sufferers for some reason (all that surging testosterone I guess).

I still wake up acting out my dreams at times, as do a lot of people. Always makes sharing a bed interesting!

If it happens just as you're starting to fall asleep then it's more like what they call hypnogogia. That can startle me upright and it usually accompanied by a feeling of panic and impending doom.

Yeah, sleep paralysis is fun too
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Sweet Dreams to everyone!!!
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I had really intense sleep paralysis when I was on bupropion. Usually involved me looking through my hallway into the kitchen and seeing a figure draped in a blanket walking toward me. And of course not being able to move.
 
I had really intense sleep paralysis when I was on bupropion. Usually involved me looking through my hallway into the kitchen and seeing a figure draped in a blanket walking toward me. And of course not being able to move.

I've had it ever since I went on the antidepressant Remeron back in 2011. I've told this story on so many forums that I'm probably giving some folks serious deja vu, but I was pleasantly surprised that it didn't freak me out like I thought it would. I've always been claustrophobic, and the thought of paralysis in any form terrified me.

Maybe because I was half-asleep and somewhat sedated at the time, it was more like, "Hmm... THAT was interesting." and then I'd go back to sleep. I'm still not exactly lovin' it when it happens, but it's really helped me overcome a lot of my irrational fears of things like premature burial, so thank God for blessings in disguise!

Sweet Dreams!!!
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