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This was my first experience with MALT, and the decision to do it was made somewhat hastily. Three days prior to this experience I had actually smoked 50 mg of MET, and I think I was still feeling a bit extra hypomanic in the afterglow in the days following the trip, which is also something that happened to me when I took 50 mg of MiPT orally, I just felt very excited and adventurous for about a week or so. In this case I was just very energized from thinking about my good experience on the MET still, and I still had the desire to go back into that intense psychedelic space for just a bit with something else even though it had only been a few days. I had, however, been wondering while on the MET if the tolerance it produces would be very short-lived like that of DMT too, so I thought that this might be a good excuse to test that property as well, try smoking some other base tryptamine and seeing if the trip feels in any way reduced, so I decided to go for it.
Theoretically, if one were to try to test if that tolerance were occurring it would probably be best to test it with a substance one was already familiar with, but I really wasn't thinking that was in the moment and I really wanted to try one of the few tryptamines I have remaining that I hadn't already explored with, so after some quick debating I opted to go with MALT. My instincts told me that, if anything, MALT was probably less intense as a hallucinogen overall than MET, considering that 4-AcO-MALT is not even half as visual or just overwhelming in general as half the same amount of 4-AcO-MET for me, so I figured this might be a nice safeguard such that even if I didn't still have any tolerance at this point it still wouldn't be an overly powerful experience which I didn't necessarily need since I had just had quite a satisfying one on the MET already. Perhaps due to this foolish line of thinking, I also decided to start with the same dosage I had used with MET, 50 mg, for good measure.
My previous experience with psychedelics includes DMT, MET, MPT, MiPT, DiPT, DALT, Psilocybe cubensis, 4-HO-MET, 4-HO-DET, 4-HO-MPT, 4-HO-EPT, 4-HO-DPT, 4-HO-MiPT, 4-HO-DiPT, 4-HO-McPT, 4-AcO-DMT, 4-AcO-MET, 4-AcO-DET, 4-AcO-MALT, 4-AcO-DALT, 5-HO-DMT, 5-MeO-MiPT, 5-MeO-EiPT, 5-MeO-DALT, Ipomoea tricolor, Argyreia nervosa, LSD, ETH-LAD, AL-LAD, 2C-B, 2C-I, DOC, and MDMA. My most recent trip was three days before this on 50 mg of MET.
T-0:45 - I had been debating with myself about whether this was a good idea or not, and finally decided that I wanted to go through with it at around this time, but also decided that I wanted to supplement with a couple things to help with the tension because I already had an annoying headache that I didn't want to get worse. To this end, I took 200 mg of magnesium glycinate and 1800 mg or two capsules from a bottle of Maeng Da Red kratom I have, which for me is enough for some pain relief without any significant recreational effect other than the mildest nice body high.
T+0:00 - At 11:00 AM, I leaned back in my recliner in my apartment living room, grabbed the bong that I had filled with the 50 mg of MALT layered into a bowl of cannabis, and finished pretty much all of it in a couple of hits, though I'm tempted to say that I got pretty much all of the MALT at once. My immediate though was: "Oh shit, this is stronger than MET." As soon as I finished up the smoking I quickly put the bong down and fully leaned back to enjoy the trip; unfortunately, as is the nature of these base tryptamines for me even more so than many other psychedelics, it is somewhat difficult to remember much concrete detail from the peak of my experience especially after only one go with this particular psychedelic, but this is what I am able to recall....
When the open eye visuals first hit, they had a similar feel to them as DMT, MET, and MPT, all of which begin with a rapidly growing and intensifying wall of static sensory overload covering my entire field of vision and overlapping the environment; the effect was less complex in detail for me so far than MPT or DMT but more so than MET, and about as obviously present as MPT which is more so than DMT and MET, while also being more like MPT stylistically. The very first thing I saw was a progression of swirling gridlines pushing the environment away from me into a colorful blur, followed by the blanket I was under suddenly having exponentially more folds on it than it had a second ago that were all sliding and warping around and leaving colorful maze pattern tracers as they went, and shortly after seeing this I leaned my head all the way back on to the chair and closed my eyes to let the trip simply wash over me.
At this point, the trip got a little more dissociative in nature.... I remember flashes of vast mechanical landscapes, dark factories with spinning gears of arms all reaching out to grab each other as the gears ground against each other, with a three-dimensional and virtual quality rivaling my strongest experiences on mushrooms and DMT, and stylistically more so like the former but in terms of complexity more so like the latter, particularly in terms of various geometric details of the imagery I was seeing and the wide range of color influences. At some point there was an image of a beautiful feminine entity like I would see on mushrooms whooshing around with long, highly detailed tracers alike those I've gotten only on my strongest experiences on 4-HO-MiPT, and I vaguely recall it pulling out to reveal an absolutely colossal mandala pattern that looked a lot like something I would expect from DMT, but again had a color scheme much more like I would expect from psilocin as well as some hints of stylistic designs more like LSD, and I specifically recall it being almost crushingly intense like I could barely stand the level of visual detail, but, at least for myself, more so in an enjoyable masochistic way as opposed to me actually wanting the experience to end.
During all this, I did indeed feel quite psychologically dissociated as well, but still very clearheaded aside from that fact. I was having a head trip in terms of the fact that it felt so extreme that my mind was cracking under the weight of it, but this is much the same kind of trip I can get from something like 4-HO-MET, which while intense is still not quite the same as going totally psychotic or thinking I'm living totally other lives or something, it was strong but I was quite aware of what was going on, at least when I wasn't hallucinating so strongly that I my body in reality just stayed in place as I was no longer really present. Once the really heavy hallucination from the beginning passed and I started to focus on external sensations again, I quickly noticed that the dark living room around me was completely covered in beautiful, but also darkly colored geometric hallucinations. They had a feeling to them which is something I first started really becoming acquainted with on 4-HO-DET but have noticed in other psychedelic molecules since then a well, a vibe that gives them the experience as a whole sort of a dark magic feeling for me, as it just makes the world like it is completely crawling and oozing with some kind of spiritual or magical energy to me, with every surface covered with squiggly and squirmy neon patterns of blue, green, and purple and geometric designs alike ancient magic circles and just a general perception of being in some kind of thick shadowy fog or something of the sort.... It was quite a sight to see as I started to really regroup after moving past that peak of intensity, and definitely still stronger than the equivalent types of visuals on MET and similar to those on MPT, but lacking some of the larger, more mechanical flower-like geometries that MPT also gave me.
I wasn't quite ready to get up out of the recliner right away as soon as I opened my eyes, my body felt quite heavy in a DMT-like way still and there was so much stunning hallucination over everything that I really just wanted to lie there and take it in, so that's what I did, but I couldn't help monitoring some other things about my state too. First of all, I noticed that I was not getting any tremors whatsoever, which was nice as I had gotten them on MET recently from what felt like the sensory overload even though the visuals were indeed less intense overall than this. Second, I noticed that I had absolutely no nausea or a desire to purge this time on MALT, which is also distinct from my MET experience and just a lot of tryptamine trips I've had lately, which was very comforting as I was starting to worry they were just going to become something I have to deal with all the time. Third, I noticed that there also was very little tension or body load of any kind, though there is the magnesium and kratom to consider, but I do personally feel like it was still lighter than it would have been with those things if it had started out with a heavy body load, but time will have to tell if that's accurate or not. And fourth, I noticed that I also didn't really have a significantly increased heart rate, which is nice because I did have a bit of one on MPT, but not MET. Overall, I was feeling pretty good, and was pretty impressed with the effects I had gotten so far.
T+0:28 - This is the first point at which I actually looked at my phone again to see what time it was, as until that point I thought holding that light in my face would just be a nuisance. I was quite surprised that it had taken me this long after smoking to feel that I had returned to this level of functionality, and I was notably still getting quite significant visual effects even though they were definitely less intense than the peak. Interestingly, I also did not really have any orgasm-like body sensations at the peak which I often get on tryptamines including the MET I just tried and the 4-substituted equivalent 4-AcO-MALT, but I did nonetheless also have a growing euphoria something like the DMT afterglow beginning to really make itself known at this point too, though as with MET, MPT, and MiPT it would prove to be more drawn out and turn into more of a full high itself than the afterglow I'm used to with DMT. For about forty-five minutes worth of this I mostly just used the growing feeling to enjoy listening to and really getting into music, especially the new Shpongle album, and thinking about life in the meantime.
T+1:12 - I got up and danced a bit at this point, which was fun, but I didn't have as much energy as I would with something like MET, MPT, or MiPT. After about ten more minutes I ended up heating up some leftover mozzerella sticks I had to fill up my stomach which ended up making me feel a bit more normal again, and that did feed my energy a bit too as I continued to dance slightly but also just pace around the apartment while continuing to think.
T+1:54 - At this point I notice that the images on the TV and the popcorn ceiling are still warping and sliding around pretty impressively if I stop to let them, though there's not much color to the movement anymore. I am impressed that it is still going after all this time, but I think this is the last time I can recall ever getting truly significant visuals from this point on other than a general warping and waving of my field of vision later on in the night as I was smoking cannabis.
T+2:01 - Nervously, I finished off the bowl in my bong that was still left over from the MALT. I did feel like there was a very slight boost in the still lingering euphoria, but no real no psychedelic effects, so I suppose either I pretty much got it all or had built up too much of a short-term tolerance by that point.
T+2:50 - I heated up some leftover spaghetti for a fuller meal, which was delicious. It helped even me out a bit more and after that I don't recall really feeling any further effects, aside from the slight tingly body feelings that pretty much always stay with me until I go to sleep that night.
And so, that concludes my first experience with MALT. In retrospect, I probably could have planned for this trip better and started with a lower dosage both for experimentation's sake and for my own safety, but I definitely had a very enjoyable experience and I'm happy for that. However, my cavalier attitude should not be taken as a sign that MALT is an experience to handle.... While it may indeed be less mental than many psychedelics I'm familiar with, it is still an extremely powerful hallucinogen and experience overall nonetheless at the right dosage, that just happens to be the kind of experience I also love and thus it happened to work out well for me. You have been warned, anyone who may be looking to repeat such behaviors as I have done....
In the end, while highly tentative, my impression of MALT so far is that it is indeed an immensely powerful psychedelic alike the other base tryptamines and especially the closely structurally related DMT, MET, MPT, and MiPT, and stylistically particularly like the first three overall, perhaps even the most alike DMT of them, though at the same still being sort of also more like psilocin is for me overall than DMT is, but also being very clearheaded and somewhat more hedonsitic and dissociative than psilocin is for me. At the moment, my biggest desire with it is to go back in for those visuals.... Honestly, while DMT is definitely more visual for mushrooms than me in most ways, I do find mushrooms to have an even more developed sort of virtual 3D quality to them which is definitely one of my favorite psychedelic visual effects, and that is basically a big part of what made this MALT more psilocin-like for me despite being more DMT-like in its visual potential overall, and I am also a huge fan of psychedelics that are extremely hallucinogenic without much a head trip alike this one was for me and certainly much more so than mushrooms, so, at the very least for me, this MALT absolutely seems like a potential huge winner. I cannot promise that it will be that great for anyone else, but I definitely can say at least for myself that I am very, very intrigued to see what else it's going to be able to show me in the future.
But, as usual, until then that's all I've got! Stay safe, travelers!
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Theoretically, if one were to try to test if that tolerance were occurring it would probably be best to test it with a substance one was already familiar with, but I really wasn't thinking that was in the moment and I really wanted to try one of the few tryptamines I have remaining that I hadn't already explored with, so after some quick debating I opted to go with MALT. My instincts told me that, if anything, MALT was probably less intense as a hallucinogen overall than MET, considering that 4-AcO-MALT is not even half as visual or just overwhelming in general as half the same amount of 4-AcO-MET for me, so I figured this might be a nice safeguard such that even if I didn't still have any tolerance at this point it still wouldn't be an overly powerful experience which I didn't necessarily need since I had just had quite a satisfying one on the MET already. Perhaps due to this foolish line of thinking, I also decided to start with the same dosage I had used with MET, 50 mg, for good measure.
My previous experience with psychedelics includes DMT, MET, MPT, MiPT, DiPT, DALT, Psilocybe cubensis, 4-HO-MET, 4-HO-DET, 4-HO-MPT, 4-HO-EPT, 4-HO-DPT, 4-HO-MiPT, 4-HO-DiPT, 4-HO-McPT, 4-AcO-DMT, 4-AcO-MET, 4-AcO-DET, 4-AcO-MALT, 4-AcO-DALT, 5-HO-DMT, 5-MeO-MiPT, 5-MeO-EiPT, 5-MeO-DALT, Ipomoea tricolor, Argyreia nervosa, LSD, ETH-LAD, AL-LAD, 2C-B, 2C-I, DOC, and MDMA. My most recent trip was three days before this on 50 mg of MET.
T-0:45 - I had been debating with myself about whether this was a good idea or not, and finally decided that I wanted to go through with it at around this time, but also decided that I wanted to supplement with a couple things to help with the tension because I already had an annoying headache that I didn't want to get worse. To this end, I took 200 mg of magnesium glycinate and 1800 mg or two capsules from a bottle of Maeng Da Red kratom I have, which for me is enough for some pain relief without any significant recreational effect other than the mildest nice body high.
T+0:00 - At 11:00 AM, I leaned back in my recliner in my apartment living room, grabbed the bong that I had filled with the 50 mg of MALT layered into a bowl of cannabis, and finished pretty much all of it in a couple of hits, though I'm tempted to say that I got pretty much all of the MALT at once. My immediate though was: "Oh shit, this is stronger than MET." As soon as I finished up the smoking I quickly put the bong down and fully leaned back to enjoy the trip; unfortunately, as is the nature of these base tryptamines for me even more so than many other psychedelics, it is somewhat difficult to remember much concrete detail from the peak of my experience especially after only one go with this particular psychedelic, but this is what I am able to recall....
When the open eye visuals first hit, they had a similar feel to them as DMT, MET, and MPT, all of which begin with a rapidly growing and intensifying wall of static sensory overload covering my entire field of vision and overlapping the environment; the effect was less complex in detail for me so far than MPT or DMT but more so than MET, and about as obviously present as MPT which is more so than DMT and MET, while also being more like MPT stylistically. The very first thing I saw was a progression of swirling gridlines pushing the environment away from me into a colorful blur, followed by the blanket I was under suddenly having exponentially more folds on it than it had a second ago that were all sliding and warping around and leaving colorful maze pattern tracers as they went, and shortly after seeing this I leaned my head all the way back on to the chair and closed my eyes to let the trip simply wash over me.
At this point, the trip got a little more dissociative in nature.... I remember flashes of vast mechanical landscapes, dark factories with spinning gears of arms all reaching out to grab each other as the gears ground against each other, with a three-dimensional and virtual quality rivaling my strongest experiences on mushrooms and DMT, and stylistically more so like the former but in terms of complexity more so like the latter, particularly in terms of various geometric details of the imagery I was seeing and the wide range of color influences. At some point there was an image of a beautiful feminine entity like I would see on mushrooms whooshing around with long, highly detailed tracers alike those I've gotten only on my strongest experiences on 4-HO-MiPT, and I vaguely recall it pulling out to reveal an absolutely colossal mandala pattern that looked a lot like something I would expect from DMT, but again had a color scheme much more like I would expect from psilocin as well as some hints of stylistic designs more like LSD, and I specifically recall it being almost crushingly intense like I could barely stand the level of visual detail, but, at least for myself, more so in an enjoyable masochistic way as opposed to me actually wanting the experience to end.
During all this, I did indeed feel quite psychologically dissociated as well, but still very clearheaded aside from that fact. I was having a head trip in terms of the fact that it felt so extreme that my mind was cracking under the weight of it, but this is much the same kind of trip I can get from something like 4-HO-MET, which while intense is still not quite the same as going totally psychotic or thinking I'm living totally other lives or something, it was strong but I was quite aware of what was going on, at least when I wasn't hallucinating so strongly that I my body in reality just stayed in place as I was no longer really present. Once the really heavy hallucination from the beginning passed and I started to focus on external sensations again, I quickly noticed that the dark living room around me was completely covered in beautiful, but also darkly colored geometric hallucinations. They had a feeling to them which is something I first started really becoming acquainted with on 4-HO-DET but have noticed in other psychedelic molecules since then a well, a vibe that gives them the experience as a whole sort of a dark magic feeling for me, as it just makes the world like it is completely crawling and oozing with some kind of spiritual or magical energy to me, with every surface covered with squiggly and squirmy neon patterns of blue, green, and purple and geometric designs alike ancient magic circles and just a general perception of being in some kind of thick shadowy fog or something of the sort.... It was quite a sight to see as I started to really regroup after moving past that peak of intensity, and definitely still stronger than the equivalent types of visuals on MET and similar to those on MPT, but lacking some of the larger, more mechanical flower-like geometries that MPT also gave me.
I wasn't quite ready to get up out of the recliner right away as soon as I opened my eyes, my body felt quite heavy in a DMT-like way still and there was so much stunning hallucination over everything that I really just wanted to lie there and take it in, so that's what I did, but I couldn't help monitoring some other things about my state too. First of all, I noticed that I was not getting any tremors whatsoever, which was nice as I had gotten them on MET recently from what felt like the sensory overload even though the visuals were indeed less intense overall than this. Second, I noticed that I had absolutely no nausea or a desire to purge this time on MALT, which is also distinct from my MET experience and just a lot of tryptamine trips I've had lately, which was very comforting as I was starting to worry they were just going to become something I have to deal with all the time. Third, I noticed that there also was very little tension or body load of any kind, though there is the magnesium and kratom to consider, but I do personally feel like it was still lighter than it would have been with those things if it had started out with a heavy body load, but time will have to tell if that's accurate or not. And fourth, I noticed that I also didn't really have a significantly increased heart rate, which is nice because I did have a bit of one on MPT, but not MET. Overall, I was feeling pretty good, and was pretty impressed with the effects I had gotten so far.
T+0:28 - This is the first point at which I actually looked at my phone again to see what time it was, as until that point I thought holding that light in my face would just be a nuisance. I was quite surprised that it had taken me this long after smoking to feel that I had returned to this level of functionality, and I was notably still getting quite significant visual effects even though they were definitely less intense than the peak. Interestingly, I also did not really have any orgasm-like body sensations at the peak which I often get on tryptamines including the MET I just tried and the 4-substituted equivalent 4-AcO-MALT, but I did nonetheless also have a growing euphoria something like the DMT afterglow beginning to really make itself known at this point too, though as with MET, MPT, and MiPT it would prove to be more drawn out and turn into more of a full high itself than the afterglow I'm used to with DMT. For about forty-five minutes worth of this I mostly just used the growing feeling to enjoy listening to and really getting into music, especially the new Shpongle album, and thinking about life in the meantime.
T+1:12 - I got up and danced a bit at this point, which was fun, but I didn't have as much energy as I would with something like MET, MPT, or MiPT. After about ten more minutes I ended up heating up some leftover mozzerella sticks I had to fill up my stomach which ended up making me feel a bit more normal again, and that did feed my energy a bit too as I continued to dance slightly but also just pace around the apartment while continuing to think.
T+1:54 - At this point I notice that the images on the TV and the popcorn ceiling are still warping and sliding around pretty impressively if I stop to let them, though there's not much color to the movement anymore. I am impressed that it is still going after all this time, but I think this is the last time I can recall ever getting truly significant visuals from this point on other than a general warping and waving of my field of vision later on in the night as I was smoking cannabis.
T+2:01 - Nervously, I finished off the bowl in my bong that was still left over from the MALT. I did feel like there was a very slight boost in the still lingering euphoria, but no real no psychedelic effects, so I suppose either I pretty much got it all or had built up too much of a short-term tolerance by that point.
T+2:50 - I heated up some leftover spaghetti for a fuller meal, which was delicious. It helped even me out a bit more and after that I don't recall really feeling any further effects, aside from the slight tingly body feelings that pretty much always stay with me until I go to sleep that night.
And so, that concludes my first experience with MALT. In retrospect, I probably could have planned for this trip better and started with a lower dosage both for experimentation's sake and for my own safety, but I definitely had a very enjoyable experience and I'm happy for that. However, my cavalier attitude should not be taken as a sign that MALT is an experience to handle.... While it may indeed be less mental than many psychedelics I'm familiar with, it is still an extremely powerful hallucinogen and experience overall nonetheless at the right dosage, that just happens to be the kind of experience I also love and thus it happened to work out well for me. You have been warned, anyone who may be looking to repeat such behaviors as I have done....
In the end, while highly tentative, my impression of MALT so far is that it is indeed an immensely powerful psychedelic alike the other base tryptamines and especially the closely structurally related DMT, MET, MPT, and MiPT, and stylistically particularly like the first three overall, perhaps even the most alike DMT of them, though at the same still being sort of also more like psilocin is for me overall than DMT is, but also being very clearheaded and somewhat more hedonsitic and dissociative than psilocin is for me. At the moment, my biggest desire with it is to go back in for those visuals.... Honestly, while DMT is definitely more visual for mushrooms than me in most ways, I do find mushrooms to have an even more developed sort of virtual 3D quality to them which is definitely one of my favorite psychedelic visual effects, and that is basically a big part of what made this MALT more psilocin-like for me despite being more DMT-like in its visual potential overall, and I am also a huge fan of psychedelics that are extremely hallucinogenic without much a head trip alike this one was for me and certainly much more so than mushrooms, so, at the very least for me, this MALT absolutely seems like a potential huge winner. I cannot promise that it will be that great for anyone else, but I definitely can say at least for myself that I am very, very intrigued to see what else it's going to be able to show me in the future.
But, as usual, until then that's all I've got! Stay safe, travelers!
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I think this is the first report I've seen on base MALT (not many about the whole family of -MALTs actually). Sounds similar to the other base tryptamines, that is to say, great! I'm curious what it would be like orally.
