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Thang

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So I am 26, been lifting for 7 years, I have a few injuries that keep bugging me, and are slowly getting worse, because i don not take the proper time off, and even when I do they came back sooner or later. I have issues with my right knee and shoulder and low back from time to time, the low back problems are with the tendons and muscles mostly (MRI confirmed).

So I have been thinking since I have a pharma GH source, to do a rehab healing cycle ( also researched TB 500 and BPC 157, tried BPC which did not do much, and this stuff seems more dangerous potentially because its has not been studied enough).

The thing that worries me the most is of course shutdown. I read that HGH affects the function of the thyroid, even though i have 0 problems with it and never had any, my mom has issues since she was a teen and I am not really sure what to think of this as it being potentially dangerous. Some recommend that u need to supplement T4 with HGH because it may shut it down and then you get low energy levels, but this will then shut me down 100%. How dangerous is this thyroid and also pituitary shutdown, is it as risky as HPTA shutdown when it comes to recovery.

Now if I am to proceed I need some advice about the dosage and length also. What is the best length for a purely rehab HGH cycle (was thinking 6 months, or can I get away with less?). I am 26 and a lot what i read says that I need a higher dose than 2 IU, more like 3-4 because of my age, i prefer to use less so i am not sure about this if its purely for healing.

Any advice would be appreciated. Thank you.
 
HGH doesn't really shut you down, not in the sense of the way gear does. Wouldn't even worry about it. As far as thyroid, it's a little more similar to gear shut down but still nowhere near as extensive IME. I jump on and off both as necessary and never worried about it or had any issues
 
Hgh shutdown from the pituitary can be avoided by taking a day or two off a week. The thyroid reduction actually corrects itself after some time on.
 
Honestly, the GH probably isn't going to do a lot for chronic joint issues, and probably not even with tendon issues. I'd still be inclined to try though, it's worth a shot, and I'd go for at least 6 months.

For the knee, assuming you have some issue with the cartilage, I'd probably go and get a hyaluronic acid injection (viscosupplementation) every 6 months, eg Durolane, Synvisc-1 etc.

As for the shoulder, are we talking about tendonosis/rotator cuff issues, or something with the joint?
 
I see, so the shutdown does not seem to be that bad, as far as thyroid goes none of you got hypothyroidism or any long term issues related with it?

The knee idk tbh, it hurts from time to time, especially when it cools down after exercise. I think its just wear and tear, the last time I had an X ray it did not show anything special, and the pain also comes and goes but a feeling of it being a bit inflamed is always there compared to the left knee. I will check for the hyaluronic acid. As far as the shoulder goes i think its mostly a rotator cuff issue/tear/scar ( not an impingement ). The shoulder seems a bit less stable overall compared to the left one.

You say GH isnt going to do much, why is that? What about the tb500 and bpc 157, what is your opinion on them?
 
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Because GH is not all it's cracked up to be in terms of recovery, anti-aging etc. By that, I mean most people have expectations which exceed reality, then get disappointed when it doesn't fix them. Similar with TB and BPC - nice in theory, in reality harder to notice improvements subjectively (beyond placebo).

Do you work your rotator cuffs? If not, you should probably do so to strengthen them up and stabilise the joint. Judicious exercise/strengthening and prolonged eccentrics often tend to solve many tendon inflammation issues by interrupting the inflammatory cascade.

Overall though, as you identified in your OP, you probably need to rest your body properly sometimes and allow full recovery.
 
You are correct, I did get an impression that GH is a drug that fixes or at least improves most of the joint/tendon issues with the exception of the spine.

Yeah I do direct work for the rotator cuff a few times a week (2-3 times, for about 10 - 15 min), actually a few years back when I injured my shoulder i could not press anything substantial, and the RC exercises plus a cycle that I ran then, improved the issue.
I just recently had a check up with a kinesiologist who checked me out and will give me some additional exercises, to correct muscle imbalances. That is also where my idea came from to support the rehab with GH.

Thanks for the help, I will research a bit more and decide on further action. I am still wishfully thinking that GH will fix the issues.
 
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Because GH is not all it's cracked up to be in terms of recovery, anti-aging etc. By that, I mean most people have expectations which exceed reality, then get disappointed when it doesn't fix them. Similar with TB and BPC - nice in theory, in reality harder to notice improvements subjectively (beyond placebo).
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This seems to be fairly individual for the most part.

I'll say that HGH, even at doses around 2-2.5iu per day has exceeded my expectations in every way possible since I started using it even with all my preconceived notions. Recovery is incredible, it's the only thing that healed the remaining issues from a triceps tear, and it took care of multiple ongoing tendinitis issues that I've had flare off and on for years.

OP, I'd say it's well worth a couple hundred bucks to give it a shot for 4-6 months. Not much money compared to what you could easily rack up doing trivial stuff through doctors and it only took about 2-3 weeks to heal the last of my tricep tear. Actually healed up a friends quad tear in about 3 weeks as well.
 
Yeah it's pretty individual. But for every 1 who raves about the benefits, there'll be about 9 that were left unimpressed. I'd still give it a shot though, for sure.
 
Thang said:
You are correct, I did get an impression that GH is a drug that fixes or at least improves most of the joint/tendon issues with the exception of the spine.

Yeah I do direct work for the rotator cuff a few times a week (2-3 times, for about 10 - 15 min), actually a few years back when I injured my shoulder i could not press anything substantial, and the RC exercises plus a cycle that I ran then, improved the issue.
I just recently had a check up with a kinesiologist who checked me out and will give me some additional exercises, to correct muscle imbalances. That is also where my idea came from to support the rehab with GH.

Thanks for the help, I will research a bit more and decide on further action. I am still wishfully thinking that GH will fix the issues.
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Maybe try a sports osteo as well, they can be pretty astute depending on who you see.
 
To give GH a proper chance at healing joints, it is my understanding that you need to supplement daily with MSM, chondroitin and glucosamine.
GH will increase water retention inside the joints, and as joints have no blood vessels to feed them, the internal fluid is their only source of nutrients.
Increasing the amount of this fluid plus supplementing the raw materials needed for repair should put your body in the best position to heal if that is still possible.
Also, the SARM MK 2866 has been anecdotally reported as healing old injuries. Ofcourse it is a relatively recent drug, still not approved for human use but there have been human trials already, with no reports of particular risks except mild to moderate Testosterone shutdown at bodybuilding dosages, that tends to quickly revert back to normal even with a minimal PCT.
Hope you will heal properly one way or another.
 
Thang said:
So I am 26, been lifting for 7 years, I have a few injuries that keep bugging me, and are slowly getting worse, because i don not take the proper time off, and even when I do they came back sooner or later. I have issues with my right knee and shoulder and low back from time to time, the low back problems are with the tendons and muscles mostly (MRI confirmed).

So I have been thinking since I have a pharma GH source, to do a rehab healing cycle ( also researched TB 500 and BPC 157, tried BPC which did not do much, and this stuff seems more dangerous potentially because its has not been studied enough).

The thing that worries me the most is of course shutdown. I read that HGH affects the function of the thyroid, even though i have 0 problems with it and never had any, my mom has issues since she was a teen and I am not really sure what to think of this as it being potentially dangerous. Some recommend that u need to supplement T4 with HGH because it may shut it down and then you get low energy levels, but this will then shut me down 100%. How dangerous is this thyroid and also pituitary shutdown, is it as risky as HPTA shutdown when it comes to recovery.

Now if I am to proceed I need some advice about the dosage and length also. What is the best length for a purely rehab HGH cycle (was thinking 6 months, or can I get away with less?). I am 26 and a lot what i read says that I need a higher dose than 2 IU, more like 3-4 because of my age, i prefer to use less so i am not sure about this if its purely for healing.

Any advice would be appreciated. Thank you.
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Hi OP

How are your injuries now? Which route did you end up taking if any?
 
Hey so I wanted to update this thread regarding my situation.

I decided first to keep doing the mobility program in addition to working out and decided to see a specialist. I got some good results especially regarding low back and the knee (muscle tightness). But I just strained the rotator cuff again and decided to do this.
I plan on running pharma HGH for 6 months, now the first question i have is what should the dosage range be for rehab and healing purposes? I am guessing around 3 IU? Starting with 2 IU for 14 days and then going to 3 IU?

What about the dosing protocol, serotonin101 has suggested 5 days on 2 off for the pituitary to not shut down completely? Or just run it 7 days on?

Now for the last thing, I got pharma cartridges for the pen, but I don't have the pen atm. I can probably get it but may take some time. Can i use them with the insulin syringe instead, by drawing out from the top of the cartridge? I am adding links to pics.

https://imgur.com/PSvkqoe
https://imgur.com/a/EOpI9
https://imgur.com/a/275cB

Thanks for the help.
 
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