Rita Prell
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Rita Prell, of the U.S., exp. w/classic psychedelics (&disassociatives), ~20 yrs ago!
I am a new member. I am married. I have a family. When I was born, LSD was still legal.
I have checked this sight, many times, before, but have only just joined.
I am a Christian.
That's probably not typical of those introducing themselves, herein.
In fact, I am a candidate for seminary (I come from a long line of clergy) for a major reformed-tradition (Protestant) denomination.
LSD (and other such substances - though it's been around 20 years, since, I have, in my past, smoked dipropyltrpytamine (DPT), taken mushrooms, had mescaline (via San Pedro), snorted ketamine, done PCP, in addition to haven taken LSD hundreds of times, from micro-doses (before that was a thing), to up to around 4,500 micrograms, in a single day) deepened my belief in the supernatural (I was brought up in the faith and am aware of the indiscriminately intensifying nature of these drugs, so, I don't claim that they make believers, of any stripe, out of anyone, much less railroad the mind into belief in The Messiah, specifically) and in Jesus Christ, as the living Son of God. While I haven't taken illegal drugs of any type in close to 20 years, almost a day does not pass without my thinking (or feeling - it's all mixed together) on the psychedelic realm (even though I know it was between my two ears) and how this informs my faith.
I am that unusual combination of - obviously - liberality (when it comes to drug use...and I do tend to apply hermeneutics, when it comes to much of Old Testament scripture, such as the creation story; I know it's allegorical, even though there are some truths embedded in it which can provide some guide for daily living) and conservative approach (when it comes to most other things, such as human sexuality, which I know isn't going to make me popular).
I've lurked on some of the threads wherein some of the brilliant people on this site have discussed chemistry and synthesis. When I first took LSD (it WAS illegal, by then), I thought that learning to make it might be my way to turn on the world, however, while I'm possessed of very strong verbal and written skills, I didn't keep up with the math, comparatively, so, I struggled with chemistry, in high school.
All the therapy modalities that have been (for those who don't know - back in the '50's, in the U.S. and Canada (and somewhat, in Europe), there was tremendous excitement over the efficacy of LSD in therapy, including towards overcoming addictions) and continue to be developed are exciting and I'm interested in counseling, but, as starts from the spiritual. Thus, my interest is in using these substances - psychedelic drugs - in the worship of The Almighty and Eternal God.
I'm interested in contact with like-minded clergy. They are out there and they aren't just those who remain alive who were part of The Good Friday "experiment" (I put that in quotes because it's ridiculous to have a control in such circumstances and, beyond a few cases, such as this, Timothy Leary did more to inhibit than codify the free expression of religion, which would include the ingestion of psychedelics). I know a very few. (Lisa Bieberman (she IS married, now) wrote on the subject as cogently as anyone, in the 1960's, but she seemed to identify more as trip guide than worship service officiant, and, in fact, she now is a Quaker; the "Friends" have a free-flowing type of worship, without a prescribed "form," which might appeal to many, but, I'm interested in structure, i.e., more "church" than "Burning Man.")
In all things, faith in and following of Jesus Christ is first and foremost, but, towards Christians who would disagree and wish to censor my approach, I would refer to Romans 14: 1-12, in which Paul admonishes the early church not to reject, out of hand, those who have practices different than their own, but, to find commonality, particularly when the discerning Spirit confirms that they, too, are one, in the Body of Christ.
I can't defend, 100%, my feelings, either ("Modest doubt is the beacon of the wise" - Shakespeare), but, it doesn't seem accidental (even though I know all the laws of thermodynamics are in play, including those exceptions as to when order does arise out of chaos - which makes for quite the head trip for me as a strict evolutionist!) that these substances exist on our planet. I used to go to Grateful Dead shows. The Dead had a song, "Box of Rain" (which I always assumed was a vial of liquid LSD). There's a line or two from it that go ..."I don't know who put it there, believe it, if you need it, or heed it, if you dare."
THAT's how I feel. It's an awe-inspiring, wonderful gift to humanity, for those who would so choose.
I haven't read many introductions, on this site, but, I'm guessing that there's never been one like this, but, I hope that there might be some more.
I won't be a frequent poster, but, I'll always check back, in time, particularly on any threads I start.
God bless you all.
The most important thing is that everyone is safe. I hope everyone will approach any of the topics covered, here and elsewhere, with caution, skepticism, and a sense of fun.
Peace,
Rita Prell
I am a new member. I am married. I have a family. When I was born, LSD was still legal.
I have checked this sight, many times, before, but have only just joined.
I am a Christian.
That's probably not typical of those introducing themselves, herein.
In fact, I am a candidate for seminary (I come from a long line of clergy) for a major reformed-tradition (Protestant) denomination.
LSD (and other such substances - though it's been around 20 years, since, I have, in my past, smoked dipropyltrpytamine (DPT), taken mushrooms, had mescaline (via San Pedro), snorted ketamine, done PCP, in addition to haven taken LSD hundreds of times, from micro-doses (before that was a thing), to up to around 4,500 micrograms, in a single day) deepened my belief in the supernatural (I was brought up in the faith and am aware of the indiscriminately intensifying nature of these drugs, so, I don't claim that they make believers, of any stripe, out of anyone, much less railroad the mind into belief in The Messiah, specifically) and in Jesus Christ, as the living Son of God. While I haven't taken illegal drugs of any type in close to 20 years, almost a day does not pass without my thinking (or feeling - it's all mixed together) on the psychedelic realm (even though I know it was between my two ears) and how this informs my faith.
I am that unusual combination of - obviously - liberality (when it comes to drug use...and I do tend to apply hermeneutics, when it comes to much of Old Testament scripture, such as the creation story; I know it's allegorical, even though there are some truths embedded in it which can provide some guide for daily living) and conservative approach (when it comes to most other things, such as human sexuality, which I know isn't going to make me popular).
I've lurked on some of the threads wherein some of the brilliant people on this site have discussed chemistry and synthesis. When I first took LSD (it WAS illegal, by then), I thought that learning to make it might be my way to turn on the world, however, while I'm possessed of very strong verbal and written skills, I didn't keep up with the math, comparatively, so, I struggled with chemistry, in high school.
All the therapy modalities that have been (for those who don't know - back in the '50's, in the U.S. and Canada (and somewhat, in Europe), there was tremendous excitement over the efficacy of LSD in therapy, including towards overcoming addictions) and continue to be developed are exciting and I'm interested in counseling, but, as starts from the spiritual. Thus, my interest is in using these substances - psychedelic drugs - in the worship of The Almighty and Eternal God.
I'm interested in contact with like-minded clergy. They are out there and they aren't just those who remain alive who were part of The Good Friday "experiment" (I put that in quotes because it's ridiculous to have a control in such circumstances and, beyond a few cases, such as this, Timothy Leary did more to inhibit than codify the free expression of religion, which would include the ingestion of psychedelics). I know a very few. (Lisa Bieberman (she IS married, now) wrote on the subject as cogently as anyone, in the 1960's, but she seemed to identify more as trip guide than worship service officiant, and, in fact, she now is a Quaker; the "Friends" have a free-flowing type of worship, without a prescribed "form," which might appeal to many, but, I'm interested in structure, i.e., more "church" than "Burning Man.")
In all things, faith in and following of Jesus Christ is first and foremost, but, towards Christians who would disagree and wish to censor my approach, I would refer to Romans 14: 1-12, in which Paul admonishes the early church not to reject, out of hand, those who have practices different than their own, but, to find commonality, particularly when the discerning Spirit confirms that they, too, are one, in the Body of Christ.
I can't defend, 100%, my feelings, either ("Modest doubt is the beacon of the wise" - Shakespeare), but, it doesn't seem accidental (even though I know all the laws of thermodynamics are in play, including those exceptions as to when order does arise out of chaos - which makes for quite the head trip for me as a strict evolutionist!) that these substances exist on our planet. I used to go to Grateful Dead shows. The Dead had a song, "Box of Rain" (which I always assumed was a vial of liquid LSD). There's a line or two from it that go ..."I don't know who put it there, believe it, if you need it, or heed it, if you dare."
THAT's how I feel. It's an awe-inspiring, wonderful gift to humanity, for those who would so choose.
I haven't read many introductions, on this site, but, I'm guessing that there's never been one like this, but, I hope that there might be some more.
I won't be a frequent poster, but, I'll always check back, in time, particularly on any threads I start.
God bless you all.
The most important thing is that everyone is safe. I hope everyone will approach any of the topics covered, here and elsewhere, with caution, skepticism, and a sense of fun.
Peace,
Rita Prell
