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(Dodgy Joint / Third of a Joint) - Vietnamese Weed, Same Same, But Different

suckitandseesmoke

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So a few days ago, a friend and I shared a joint we bought of some dodgy English guy in Hanoi, Vietnam. We smoked it at around 1:15 am after a few beers and some NOS to chill out before going to bed. What followed was the most harrowing experiences of my life. The first five minutes felt like normal weed, but then things started to get weird.

I've taken LCD, shrooms and been really stoned before, but what happened next felt completely different to any of these experiences.

My friend and I thought we were getting a bit too high, so decided to walk back to the hostel we were staying in, we walked out of the bar, but I think the guy working there realised we were fucked and sat us down on two chairs outside. We sat there for a few minutes then decided we needed to get a taxi back to the hostel. We went to the nearest ATM to get some money for the taxi then my friend went to buy some water from a nearby shop.

I noticed my heart start to beat faster and faster, and began not being able to keep a track off time. I didn't know how long my friend had been in the shop.

At a difficult to discern time later, a woman from the hostel opposite the bar came running out of the shop, shouting my name and trying to find me. I was still at the atm across the street.

When the women found me she started explaining how he was lying down on the floor of the shop and asked if I was ok.

This was the moment I realised something was seriously wrong, I meekly exclaimed "Please Help, Please Help" before putting my hands around her shoulders.

The women from the hostel had booked us an uber back to our hostel and took me over to it. I sat in the uber waiting for them to bring my friend. At this point my heart rate was through the roof and it felt like things were beginning to flicker around me. I expected to die any minute soon and was surprised at how little power I had to do anything about it.

My friend got into the uber, escorted by two women from the hostel. He was barely conscious. We drove back to our hostel and the two women came with us. They sat us down with a large bottle of water each and explained that they though the weed we smoked had been spiked. They explained that it would be a rough night but that things would be ok after a few hours. This was perhaps 30-40 minutes after first smoking the weed.

My friend slipped in and out of consciousness whilst I stayed fully awake the entire time. For a moment things seemed to be getting better, but then I started getting more anxious and paranoid. I was convinced the people at the hostel weren't taking me to the hospital to cover their backs and that I would soon die. My heart rate continued to beat extremely fast and I started to shake uncontrollably. Reassurance from one of the people at the hostel helped to stop this. I eventually began to feel more like myself and after about another hour was feeling good enough to take my friend up to our dorm.

He zonked out as soon as his head touched the pillow. I still felt completely wired and couldn't get to sleep. My heart rate was still very high. A girl in the dorm was still awake and asked if I wanted a cigarette. I don't smoke, but we went outside and chatted for about 40 minutes. I was feeling pretty elated and good, funny and self confident.

When I went back to the dorm I still couldn't get to sleep, I managed to get an hour of light sleep around 6:30 am, but that was it.

My friend and I spent the rest of the day in bed, before starting our 32 hour long journey back to the UK. I slept maybe 7 hours during this journey which means I ended up being awake for around 57 out of 65 hours.

As I write this I'm feeling much better than the morning after smoking the weed, but I still feel pretty off. I'm tired, my muscles ache and my head just feels a bit foggy and anxious.

Does anyone have any experience of this sort of thing happening to them?

Does anyone have any idea about what we could have smoked??

Thanks for your help and I hope this article makes you think twice about buying weed in SE Asia.

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Pcp possibly? It can cause intense, varying experiences from person to person
 
Did it taste weird? I mean we can't tell you what you took, no way for us to know, but PCP is something that weed can and has been laced with, though laced weed is pretty uncommon (I mean, dealers want to make money, not give you free extra drugs). Weed alone can be very powerful and can sometimes really take people off guard. This sounds pretty harrowing though, glad everyone was okay.
 
i really don't wish to speculate on what was in the joint, but this sounds like the sort of thing that happens when people OD on synthetic cannabinoids.
fucking scary stuff. synthetic weed blends are really dangerous, and it would be really fucked for someone to do that to unsuspecting travellers. especially in a joint, because you can't inspect it to see what it is.

i hope you are feeling better soon - that trip home must have been exhausting anyway, but i'm sorry to hear this happened to you. sounds terrifying :(
 
Forgot about dem synth noids... yeah, those things are dodgy for sure. Or as we'd say in America, sketchy. Some of them are extremely strong and cause very dissociating experiences. I stupidly and drunkenly smoked WAY too much of one (knowing what I was smoking but being too intoxicated to realize I had put out like 50 times the normal dosage) out of a bong years ago, and I went catatonic for an hour... I was aware of what was going on, I just couldn't move or communicate, all I could do was exist in formless terror and a falling sensation. My friend started to get really scared when I wasn't responding and after a while he told me if I couldn't give him some indication I was okay he was gonna call the ambulance. I managed to get out the word "no", it was so hard to do, because I knew I would come down and I didn't want to have to deal with all that mess. I've never had that happen from marijuana, that's for sure.
 
yeah, it's fucking intense, and so dangerous to spin a joint with it.
i don't know if that crap's common in south east asia, but i know it's still common in australia, despite "synthetic cannabis" being banned everywhere here years ago.
so i wouldn't be surprised if it ends up practically everywhere - at least where there are backpackers.

again, i don't want to speculate, and we don't do drug ID on bluelight, but it sounds like synth 'noids to me (which is a pretty broad category of drugs).
PCP is extremely rare, but cannabinomimetics are cheap and sold online - and far more likely to be sold as a legit 'joint' to unsuspecting people. it's a really fucked up and irresponsible thing to do though.
i hope you guys feel 100% better soon - thanks for posting this.
 
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