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Trying to kick oxy

Hi again Vic. You're right about gabapentin being incredibly helpful. Except I take it daily--so it doesn't help me w withdrawal unfortunately. Dammit.

You're also right about gabapentin w/d. O.M.G. It is horrible. For me, it's worse than opiate w/d because of the intolerable anxiety. I get all the same symptoms of opiate w/d but the anxiety is magnified 10x. I feel like I'm losing my mind.

For me, subs are the key for w/d'ing and tapering. I'm at the point of seriously considering going on subs to regain my life. I think it's time. I can't seem to completely stop using. It's like being on deranged carousel. Regaining normalcy is needed. And the blocking effect will help. I'm nervous because of what I read about with getting off subs. However, I've also read about people succeeding too. The thing is I won't have gabapentin on my side for a comfort med.

You seem to have this. I know you can do it ? I detoxed naked on the floor in jail. That was a nightmare. Seizures. Hallucinating--uugh. I was in bad shape. You sound like you know the drill.

My ex-husband was a competitive body builder-so I get what you're saying about steroids and needing testosterone. A few years ago he stopped using steroids and became really depressed to the point people were concerned he was going to commit suicide. I'm not sure what he did, but he's been back to his ...um...usual self. I'm trying to be kind lol.

Anyway-I'm glad to hear you're not suffering. Keep up the great work and keep us updated.
 
I'm glad you are feeling so positive about this ! That will help allot. Yes you are right the about lower doses with subs they take a little to get in your system and get working so lower is better . I have been thinking over you're plan and adding a few more days to taper is def a good thing, I think Friday is a very good day to quit those Oxys u should be done by Friday evening . then sat sun kpins to get clean and to sleep through the worst , If you decide to use subs, Sunday is a good day to start it will be evened out in your system for Monday,
Sunday, 4mg sub in 2 doses morning and evening,
Monday 2mg day.
Tues 2 mg sub
Wed 1 mg sub if needed and by then your subs if you decide to use them willl have started leveling out and working with you. You can use 1-2 mgs subs to take the edge off its not a suboxane program just more for 60% relief if needed. Or like you said earlier 1 mg 1 mg 1 mg taper off .
In all honesty tapering is good but I really feel like the drug being abused needs to be absent in order to successfully stop using Whenever you decide to fully detox the Oxys they def need to be removed before using any other form of detox tools , drug cocktailing can get so sloppy during wds and very easily cause relapse . You seem very positive and have such a great outlook for the next few weeks !! You got this ! Please keep us updated !!
 
Good morning willow! It's good that I don't even think about my issue but a friend of mine is going through it also but off h like u willow so I'm thinking of u too throughout the day. Wondering how u r doing and hopefully just know some guy "Vic" is thinking of u and supporting u all day long. I truly think what will willow think if I do "x". I do believe for me a short taper for a few days will help as coming from 200mg to 20ish a day then 15, 10, 5, nothing. I know it's way fast but each step down hasn't been bad at all and I hope that even though I'm putting in some oxy it's nowhere near what my body is used t,o so hopefully some endorphins are being produced? I've quit so many different ways so many times it makes me sick but I do know a lot of it is mental. Yes I know there are real physical symptoms but can manage with high dosage of gabapentin and Imodium ad. Make it 3-4 days and then get better. Maybe beccause I'm active that I truly bounce back quickly. Yes I k ow about PAWS, but again it's mental and keep my mind busy with other things. Even though my wife doesn't k ow I have bl friends that are encouraging and again even though I've never met anyone here their words mean something to me and I take them to heart. Thanks again everyone. One step closer. Feeling good even if I'm not in telling myself that and it works and what's a week or two? After that time goes and u look back if u didn't stop u think by now I would have been getting much better. It's slow when u think about it but if u stay on flies by and think again I could have been done with it by now. Quit as soon as u can and never look back!
 
I'm not sure if it's a placebo thing or what but I have energy from the androgel I used this morning but bringing up my test levels will help w energy and a lot of things. I think it will help with my wd. I read somewhere it could make it worse but I know many years ago I used injectable test and had little withdrawal cause I used OTC stuff but testosterone to give me energy. I've used a total of 15mg today and more than likely 1 more 5mg before bed then 10mg split tomorrow and maybe just save crumbs like split 5mg and take one or two for a day and quit. I have the will power cause I could have taken all the 5's I got yesterday to get one last high but didn't. Just taking enough not to withdraw and really thought that going this low after such a high dosage after a long time but I really don't feel badly at all. I may just take nothing tomorrow or maybe just 5mg in morning and stop. Boy I'm all screwed up right not just want to be clean and ready for our vacation. I can talk my wife to just stay in the hotel room the first day cause it's a 6 hr drive but we'll have a room on the ocean and board walk then chill Monday and beach or whatever/casinos the rest of the vaca. I'm ready to do this. I really feel the gabapentin has made the reduction easy so maybe I'm talking myself into using 5mg here and there but I know it will be heck easier then stepping off 200mg even though I didn't taper long which is why I think the gabs is what is making the difference.
 
Hello there. Very same position as you it seems in life. Same problem with thenpills. You got this!!! Read my new member thread. I found Zyban (to quit smoking) really helps with withdrawals, Imodium, gabapentin, and Xanax. You got this and I'll be thinking of you. I'm also looking to meet like minded people for support.
 
Thanks mzno! Yeah there's a for of us going through it and I'll be thinking of u and all the members going through it. I got this. 2.5mg this morning, just now to get out of bed and go to work. Hopefully that will last me till I get home. And then I can make it through Friday without nothing and have the weekend to do nothing but one family commitment on Sunday which will be tough. But all in all I gotta get this all out of my system but hopefully going low helps.
 
Great thread! Keep up the great work OP. Glad to have you on board :)
 
You can do this Vic! I'm so proud of you. I am in the position right now, where I won't be far behind you tapering. I get my script in two weeks and I'm done. I'm sick of the constant worry everyday about getting enough pills to get me through each day and the constant financial worries, my professional career etc.
I'm praying hard you stay strong and start your new clean thinking and healthy life.
You got his and I'm here to support ya anyway I can!
 
That's awesome Last Dose... I'm going to read your thread. I'm preparing for a taper 8/17, scared but confident. I am ready. I want to be like you. Congratulations on your new, clean, clear healthy life. I can't wait to be like you, and thanks for posting.
 
mZnoChillPILL said:
That's awesome Last Dose... I'm going to read your thread. I'm preparing for a taper 8/17, scared but confident. I am ready. I want to be like you. Congratulations on your new, clean, clear healthy life. I can't wait to be like you, and thanks for posting.
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thanks! and dont be scared and hell yes be confident, after my long taper wds were not bad at all. I read your comfort meds you did your research like i did. I was worried big time going into wds because i was on oxy daily for 20 years. Weening is tough at times but you always adjust. I was amazed on how small of a dose you really need, the weening was worth it all during wds. I just wish i did it sooner the freedom of not having to dose opioids around the clock anymore and no more pain man. monthly appointments were worth it all!!! good luck all
 
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Ok so I'm 35 hours since last oxycodone dose. I new it would be my last so I went to town on Thursday and probably did 250-300mg. I really can't remember. I had an appt w sub doctor even though I can get them off the street. I have 5 already plus they gave me 20 8/2mg films which I have to bring for 9:30 am today Saturday. I almost jumped out of my chair when the dr said they will probably have to induct me at 20mg!!!! I said probably not. Maybe 4mg. Yes I know everything there is to know about subs, everything.

My delima is, I feel ok. There are a few items that need to be in your opiate withdrawal kit, Zofran and Gabapentin/Lyrica (Stronger-better absorbed), chlonodine, not kpins, no benzos, Syrequel for sleep, and Adderrall XR (small dose if you never tried it, like 20-40mg XR, I prefer XR over IR instant release. Anyway I'm 35 hours in and usually by now I'm full blown wds. Everyone knows what's that like, well mostly everyone on here, lol. I did waaaaaay too many IR Adderrall yesterday, I haven't slept more than one hr. I mean like 180mg throughout the day and I haven't done adds in forever. For some reason I always need to take more of everything. That's not the addictive personality, it's just simple. I ask, how much would you give a 125-150person, the same as me, 225-240# depending on my training. I used to be a BBer, but these opiates have taken soooo much from me already but not everything so I'm happy I nip this in bud now. I haven't been down under 200# since my 20's as training has always been a part of my life, but hasn't really been in past two years. Got my blood work done, testeoterone was way low so put on Androgel, it works, but $$, I have a good job and insurance but know it's $$. I usually get my test from my BBer buddies since it's cheaper and two shots a week.

Ok getting back to quitting opiates, I'm actually stoked I'm really not in wds. I took a 20mg XR around 6am this morning. Seriously thinking of not doing the sub but can't afford being away on vaca and going through wds so I would bring my 20 or so 30mg oxys to last the week and still be in mild wds. I know 20 or so 30's would sometimes last 2, 3 days!! I'm thinking go on sub, square away life, all things and taper down/off as quickly as possible.
 
I know I may be talking to myself right now but expect others to chime in later in the day. Well it's 8:00am and have appt to induct subs at 9:30 which will be 38 hours and other than the stomach which ammonium takes care of plus the adderrall which I only took 1 20mg XR and that doesn't do anything for me just keep me awake. So more than likely if I dose adderrall again today it will be just after subs. I am going to take as little as possible as I think I masked the withdrawals with the stuff I mentioned above. But come on I'll be over 38hours without oxy and I was a heavier user and really not going to score high on cows sheet. Who the heck knows? I'll report back after my sub visit.
 
Clonidine helps so much when you're tapering/jump off completely. I wish I had more of that when I decided to quit. I think it might have been the difference between me quitting completely rather than getting on suboxone.
 
Hey Vic,
Glad to hear you're making this choice man. I myself have been through withdrawal from a 250mg+ a day habit along with a half bar a night at the same time. It took me 3 months once I started to work my way up to 250 and I was like that for about 6 months until I finally decided it was time to quit. I stopped both the xanax and Oxy at the same time and it was hell for about two weeks, I thought I was going to die....but I didn't. This stuff will really fuck with your head so you have to literally make yourself think positive thoughts, I know it sounds difficult but once u start doing that for a week it will cultivate and you will begin to be a positive person again. Just gotta grab the bull by the horns man and go through the mud, and keep telling yourself that you'll make it...because u will. Your biggest enemy during this time will be yourself so just hang in there and hit me up if you have any questions. Instead of all those meds you have I would highly recommend Kratom. It is a partial opiate agonist that will really help you come off of Oxy with little to no withdrawal and it's an easy way to taper down. I was on it for about 2 months after quitting and once I stopped the kratom at a low enough dose it only took me a week to get back to normal. It's legal in almost all countries so you can pick it up at a head shop or even take it on vacation with you. It'll help you much much more than any of those meds you have and it's much safer. Like I said man, it's not gonna be easy but you can do it. Just hang in there and once all the haze fades (takes about 2 months to be completely normal again) you'll be so happy you did it. Good luck and best to you brother. Hope this helps
 
Let me also add the Kratom will completely kill off your Oxy cravings due to it binding to the same receptors as the Oxy does. But being a partial agonist you will not need to worry about addiction, especially if you are taking it to help you and not recreationally. Much more affordable than Oxy as well, $100 should get you through the week and maybe more.
 
I'm another one. A longtime oxy / roxy user kicking a 150-200 mg day habit. Just gross. Vic, like you, wife "helped" 2 times and there can't be a third. I'm now hooked on kratom, but it's okay in the spirit of harm reduction, however anxiety and insomnia has been brutal. Wish I had gabapentin, as it sounds like it could be what I need to quit the kratom eventually. My other problem is booze, but that's another depressing story. Weed helps immensely, btw, if you are into that.

Keep us posted Vic, and enjoy your vacation,
 
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