Xanax - dry run didn't work - please help, flight tomorrow

[AntiCy]

Small to moderate tolerance, use sometimes for sleep or opiate withdrawals.

10:30 - 2.5mg Xanax
11:00 - .5mg
11:20 - .5mg

Testing these for a flight Monday. Still panicking THINKING about the flight. I figured I'd be drooling all over. Feel very little. 3.5mg in less than an hour. The 2 .5mg doses were sublingual. Did I fuck up spacing them apart? Is there a ceiling affect?

So tips for my flight Monday?

1. Stay up all night so I'm super tired? Will doses hit me harder then?

2. Just take 4mg all at once 30 min before flight?

3. Stick with 2mg but add a glass of wine?

Goal is to be nodding/sleeping/not panic attack before takeoff.

Have 60 2mg pills(scripted), so accepting all advice. 12 hour flight

Thanks guys. I have a huge opiate (oxy) tolerance, but like I said, benzos aren't my thing.

I am petrified of flying, to the point where I'm afraid I may not get on the fucking plane. Help me out!

 

[AntiCy]

I also have kpins. I have to drive 3 hours to airport at 5am. What happens if I take one 1mg kpin now? I'm afraid of not knowing how that will interact with the Xanax tomorrow. Sorry guys, I don't fear much, but flying REALLY fucks me up. Need something to fix my fucking brain with it

 

[psy997]

Klonopin has a pretty long half life so it may ever so slightly potentiate Xanax taken within say 12 hours - guessing here, but with a decent base knowledge of the matters - but not to the degree that I would factor it into dosage. It's relatively common with Xanax to take large amounts, fail to notice any effects, and then later look back and realize you'd actually been acting completely abnormally. It's happened to me with doses over 8mg where looking back I was absolutely fucked. Try to test yourself in ways other than you've tried to ascertain how little you are actually affected right now.

That being said, if it's a twelve hour flight my recommendation considering your apparent lack of effect with Xanax would be 2mg at arrival to the airport, a glass of wine or pint at a bar before boarding, and then anywhere from 1-3mg more 45-60 minutes before take off. Followed by 1-2mg more Xanax 4-6 hours later if you're scared of the actual act of flying as well. Alprazolam only lasts around 4 hours if I recall correctly, it being one of the shorter acting benzos, so do be prepared for that. The combination of alcohol - assuming you have no abnormal non reaction to it - and a benzo should cover the anxiety more fully than just the benzo alone.

If you have a huge opiate tolerance I'd assume you at least know the basics of benzos from being in the "drug scene". But I'll repeat on principle and for others, the combination of alcohol and benzos can be dangerous and even lethal if pushed. Mixing the benzos with alcohol will only be safe if kept to two or three drinks, three drinks possibly even pushing it. That is, when dosing 4mg+ of Xanax, even if you seemingly don't feel it. Most of all, listen to you body. But understand and remember that these things will take time, do not go rushing down another drink or pill because you are still terrified after this many milligrams and however many drinks. That's how I got myself into a 12mg Xanax + eventual 500mL of liquor and God knows however many other drinks blackout in a foreign country, taking 1-2mg more every 10-15 minutes because "I wasn't feeling it".

 

[DoctorMolecule]

Since you weren't hyped up and anxious the day of your 'test run' you may not have felt much. Now if you are in full blown panic even a fraction of the amount you took could have noticeable anxiolytic effect. I say stick to what you did on your test run- avoid alcohol

 

[AntiCy]

Thanks for the responses so far. I took a 1mg kpin sublingual at 1am, relax me a little as I was really kind of a mess. Plan is to work the Xanax. Wife will help me get on board.

If anyone is reading....will staying up all night for a 10am flight (and then add Xanax), make me more tired or more manic and liable to freak out. It would be 24 hours with no sleep.

I'm hoping no sleep plus Xanax = sleep before takeoff. I remember a while ago I had a 6 hour flight with no sleep, and I was a fucking mess on it.

Recap - 1mg kpin plus 4 mg Xanax (and Kratom if it matters????) isn't going to stop my breathing, correct?

Love you guys. Fucking Reddit. They only respond to "dope porn" posts I see. My serious shit on benzos and opiates are never answered. Also, for clarification, I'm off opiates right now so no worries there, only Kratom to hold wd away

 

[Keif' Richards]

This is a really shitty situation. It's not the first time we've fielded questions surrounding the issue of flight-apprehension and Benzodiazepines here. It's a fairly common problem for a lot of folks so no need to be ashamed.

The thing that makes this situation so shitty is that you're already dealing with some pretty significant dosages of Benzodiazepines and they don't seem to be effectively managing your panic/anxiety. The issue with using drugs to get on planes is primarily found in the matter of timing. You're trying to sedate yourself for a flight, but have to do extremely important things directly beforehand (security, gate numbers, got your passport? etc.) It's not the best time to be intoxicated. I can only imagine that the noise and bustle of an airport in general will add to the subjective anxiety.

For this reason, you can't completely anesthetize yourself for a flight. It just won't work. You cannot afford to become disinhibited (blacked out) either in an airport or after you're on the plane. You could end up in a lot of trouble.

For this reason, I really can't advise exceeding the 4mg directly before the flight, which for the record, I still consider to be quite risky. I can only imagine that this is a very important occasion for you to attempt to overcome your phobia, but don't do anything that will cause more trouble.

Don't drink any Alcohol at all if you've taken anything like 2mg+ Alprazolam (Xanax) at an airport.

 

[BeachBum4u]

Clearly what I'm about to write isn't for everyone but this is what I think I would do. I would crush whatever amount you could snort (advantage - quicker onset, less duration) and put it in a small bottle (I tend to use old prescription bottles). Once I got on the plane but before take off I'd go to the restroom, dump the bottle's contents out on the counter and snort it up. Return to your seat and hopefully you'll doze off pretty quickly. WARNING, this is not for everyone but it might do the trick if it's something you can manage. Good luck!

 

[psy997]

Snorting pharmaceutical benzos is never worth it. The slighter quicker come up isn't worth the hassle of crushing tons of pills not to mention the even more annoying, disgusting, and unhealthy mountain of filler that you're putting straight into your nasal cavity. These pills are like at least 150:1 filler:benzo if not 300:1. Especially when benzos have such a high bioavailability taken orally anyways.

 

[femaletrouble]

I know benzo's are a first choice for high anxiety an panic when it comes to flights, but would'nt something like a 20mg dose of zeprexa be better suited for irrational fear? Just a thought

 

[lucifersam666]

Yeah i would definitely take 1mg to 1.5mg the night before to sleep. I wouldn't try to stay up all night or anything, sleep is important.
but anyways, what method of dosing did u chose on the fly back home? Hopefully it was a some-what positive impact to make the next time flying less stressful.
much love,
LS

 

[Keif' Richards]

I'm pretty sure that crushing your prescription pills essentially invalidates them from a legal standpoint. There's also no need to ever snort almost any Benzodiazepine. Most of the commerically available specimens aren't going to be any more effective by this route and as a matter of fact, will probably be less effective.

 

[DoctorMolecule]

^I'm trying to figure out why people insist on snoring benzos. I could maybe understand if people obtained the pharmaceutical grade powder, and even then a lot of benzos aren't vary hydrophilic... but pills that are 299/300mg inactive ingredients? My sinuses hurt just thinking about it

 

[lucifersam666]

^I'm trying to figure out why people insist on snoring benzos. I could maybe understand if people obtained the pharmaceutical grade powder, and even then a lot of benzos aren't vary hydrophilic... but pills that are 299/300mg inactive ingredients? My sinuses hurt just thinking about it

Quiet simple. Snorting bars (benzos) has a quicker onset; "hits harder" lol. Don't get it twisted tho, I totally agree with you. Snorting pills is pointless, imo, too much fillers, like you said... and it just shouldn't be the preferred method. Might as well just take it orally. but that is the only logic i can see in it - hits quicker. I have heard of some people (less experienced) who have snorted hydrocodone, lol. It amazes me the things people will do without the proper research or knowledge.