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    My reasoning for starting LGD before masteron is just to get a feel for it, the good or the bad, alone. The whole don't introduce multiple new compounds at once concept. But I will just do it at the same time.

    I will sit down this weekend and place an order (probably will order nolva alone first just to get comfortable with a source), but ya, it will probably be mast p just to be safe.

    As for training, aside from volume and recovery adjustments, is it worth tapping into higher rep ranges and steroid-style training for either of these drugs? Or just keep training like I have been? I mean, I want to keep getting stronger, but if I am going to cut down low enough for masteron to really show off, I don't want to neglect additional aesthetic work.
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    You don't need to include the LGD at all if you want to try each separately.

    Regarding training, perhaps if you keep your training style as is, you'll have a more controlled understanding of exactly how little/much the AAS is helping. I'd probably add volume as I'm very into feeling reps, but then I'm not into PL anymore and I think you still are.
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    The LGD and nolva arrived today. Have not ordered the mast prop yet, but intend to tomorrow. Hopefully I can start this all in two weeks or so.

    What do your guys have to say about personal experiences with masteron and PIP? What about hair loss? There is some MPB within my mother's extended family, but not my father's. My hair is full and thick at 32, but there's a bit of paranoia doing this the first time. As I understand it, there really are no strategies beyond abstinence to mitigate AAS-related hair loss...or are there?
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    Mast prop has no pip in my experience. I haven't had any hair loss on doses up to 700/week and my mom's side has a lot of balding males.
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    Stuff like finasteride/dutasteride won't help, but I guess you could try something like minoxidil throughout the cycle for insurance if you like. Might lower the risk of permanent loss.
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    Did the first injection a bit ago. Used my quad, since that seemed like the the best place to get used to z-tracking and aspirating on myself. Everything seems to have gone fine. I will update this thread as the cycle unfolds.

    Oh, and I did proportionally condense it a few weeks, as it looks like I will be traveling by plane in ten weeks and don't want to have to deal with that.

    Edit: Ya, there is some pip twelve hours later. Bending over at work is annoying. We shall see how squats go tomorrow. Not unbearable.
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    It seems like the muscle I shot the mast into is a bit harder than usual 12-24h after. As in...the supposed effects of the drug have (only) taken place locally around the injection. This may be my mind playing tricks on me, or will this happen?
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    Either your mind, or a little local inflammation which is to be expected (more blood = firmer). As it's your first time, you've gotta anticipate a little PIP, but did you massage well after you injected?

    Good luck with the cycle mate.
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    Ya. Z-track, held pin in for thirty seconds after injecting, then massaged. PIP quickly left the picture while training legs today. Only really notice it bodyweight squatting for stuff at home or work.
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    It happens and will dissipate.
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    I haven't z-tracked in over two years and I only leave the pin in for 10 seconds post shot. To each their own.
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    Will be increasing doses tomorrow to start week 2. How early should one expect cosmetic changes from masteron? Had a good week of training despite feeling super drained from work and from adjusting to a deficit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedLeader View Post
    Will be increasing doses tomorrow to start week 2. How early should one expect cosmetic changes from masteron? Had a good week of training despite feeling super drained from work and from adjusting to a deficit.
    Never felt any changes with masteron apart from difficulty urinating..
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    Cosmetically, when I'm lean I'll notice getting harder and visibly see more cuts on Masteron. I notice this more easily than most as my skin's thin. When I'm fatter, I just notice everything feeling tighter. Regardless, you'll probably feel more energy to train and a bit more oomph.
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    For me mast is mostly a mental boost. Some water loss. That's about it. And issues peeing lol
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    So just planning ahead a bit...

    If I run this for a total of ten weeks, and I want to actually try out a standard beginner test cycle next, do I need to apply time on=time off, or could I start that sooner given this one was somewhat atypical/mild?
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    Just because you have never ran any anabolics doesn't mean you can't have some gyno issues. A lot of times medication can cause this and if you were overweight at one point and you lost a lot of weight really fast could be the reason.
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    Also, the way you describe it, if your cold you don't see it or if you have a pump you dont, but all other times you can see it, then you more than likely have a little gyno going on. I only know this because I have the same thing. It's not very much and it's because of a medication I was on for about a year when I was 7-8 yrs old. If youre under 10 percent as well, losing more bf isn't going to help that. You could try letrozole although I don't recommend it. It would kill your gyno but when you quit taking it, it will come back. Surgery is really the only permanent option.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedLeader View Post
    If I run this for a total of ten weeks, and I want to actually try out a standard beginner test cycle next, do I need to apply time on=time off, or could I start that sooner given this one was somewhat atypical/mild?
    I'd give it 8-10 weeks just to be safe and to try and keep yourself in good habits. You've taken this long to start using PEDs, I reckon you can manage a 2 month break Once you start cutting corners and feeling impatient you'll end up doing blast-n-cruise before you know it.
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