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Mental Health AMA about living with "multiple personalities"

Emptty

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So my thread looking for other people living with DID predictably didn't get much traction but that did make me consider how rarely the condition is talked about with any openness. For those who don't know Dissociative Identity Disorder is the medically correct term for what some people know as Multiple Personality Disorder or Split Personalities. It's a severe form of dissociation characterized primarily by amnesia and identity alteration that develops as a coping mechanism for early childhood trauma and continues throughout a persons life.

While I'm selectively open about this offline for safety reasons I am pretty willing to speak about having DID online, so I'd like to open this thread as an opportunity for anyone to ask questions they may have about the disorder and get answers from someone who lives with it.

To give a summary of my own experience I am professionally diagnosed with DID, I do not know the cause of it for sure because although I know I experienced some childhood trauma I have fairly strong amnesia of anything before the age of 12, including myself I have 11 alters or "personalities" some of which can take control of the body and others which help to manage things internally, my ability to communicate with my alters is hit and miss at the moment but in the past we have had periods of full awareness and communication. Along with having firsthand experience of what it's like to live with DID I'm fairly well read on the topic and am willing to answer more academic questions as well.

So go ahead, ask me anything.
 
How old are you?

Genetically speaking, are you male or female?

Are all of your personalities aware of what each other is doing or thinking at all times or is each personality only aware of or recall events that occur when that particular personality is manifesting its presence in your life?

Is there a main "you"? The "Original Emptty" so to speak? If so, is the Original Emptty in charge or have control as to when and for how long your alter personalities are present and what the alters can do or not do, say or not say, etc.?

Do you live independently or with your nuclear family?

Any siblings? If so, where do you stand in the birth order?
 
How old are you?
The body is 21, the ages each alter presents as/identifies with vary with the youngest being 6 years and the oldest being 28.

Genetically speaking, are you male or female?
We were assigned the female gender at birth based on our body & genetics. Gender identity also varies between alters.

Are all of your personalities aware of what each other is doing or thinking at all times or is each personality only aware of or recall events that occur when that particular personality is manifesting its presence in your life?
This varies between us, I can only recall things that happen to me personally and sometimes to one other alter who can take over without causing me to blackout like I normally would. Others seem to have better memory recall than I do but I'm not sure if that's a lack of amnesia or if that's because they communicate with one another and can share information more.

Is there a main "you"? The "Original Emptty" so to speak? If so, is the Original Emptty in charge or have control as to when and for how long your alter personalities are present and what the alters can do or not do, say or not say, etc.?
There is a main me in the sense that I (Emptty) have control far more often than any of the others do, that doesn't so much mean I'm the original personality to exist, more that I just happen to be the one that's best at coming across as normal and living daily life.

I'm fairly sure I split off as an alter around the time of my amnesia cut off (when we were 12 years old or so) and I know others were already there when I came to be. That and multiple other things make me suspect I'm not the original personality. While the way DID forms is still being studied it's fairly common for people with it to say they don't feel the original personality still exists at all for them and I feel that's the case for us. I can see aspects of her in certain alters of mine, pieces that indicate those alters formed to help her specifically in comprehending what was happening to her. And I consider each of them a piece of her that if integrated might recreate whoever she was, but as of right now I am not the original and I would hesitate to say any of us are.

I both do and don't have control over what my alters can say or do. Think of it like piloting a robot suit with a few other people who wanted to do their own thing, sometimes you can set rules, sometimes you can talk them out of things, sometimes you can use the control you have to make it harder for them, but if in the end they still want to do something they'll probably find a way to do it. I have heard of some people with DID who have much more control but it's something that comes with learning to work with your alters through a lot of therapy which I haven't yet had much time to do.

As for when and how long they're present, in my case no I have essentially no control over that. In the past when I was more aware of them I was able to stop one from taking over in a case where I knew loss of control would be dangerous but I haven't been able to repeat that since and it was extremely difficult. I came out of it tired to the point of feeling as if I had been in a physical fight and I'm still not certain how I managed it to begin with. I do know of other people with DID who can choose to switch with their alters at will but again they often are much more functional than I am either due to therapy or due to having better awareness of their alters.

Do you live independently or with your nuclear family?
I currently live with my parents but am planning to seek other housing options within the next few months as I'm finding their emotional abuse a detriment to both my mental health and my substance abuse issues.

Any siblings? If so, where do you stand in the birth order?
No biological siblings, I did have a foster sister who lived with us for about a year but has since minimized contact with the family.
 
I'm a schizo with PTSD and a spilt personality. Do you have repressed memories that can return to your mind at random? I'm 37 with similar mental illness and i am forever reliving past events ranging from trauma to conversations i have had with people from when i was younger that some how my mind has chosen or sub-consciencely forgotten. As you would think anti-psychotic medication helps me cope with the returning memories but sometimes things get too much and i have a nervous break down that requires a hospital visit. So far fortunately a new set of meds get me functioning again. I'm used to the mental illness cycle that is my life but i normally get 7 good years between hospital visits (touch wood) Like everyone i have my good and bad days.
 
Forgive me if this comment comes off as a bit trite Emptty, but have you ever seen the movie The Scribbler? I feel like you might enjoy it.

I really hope you are able to make your way in the mental health field, as I see you as becoming an amazing clinician one day! You have so much depth and insight, and you clearly have seen and experienced things most cannot imagine, it would be such a waste for you not to pursue your dreams and achieve your potential (as you yourself come to understand it).

Anyways, I just wanted to let you know you have yourself a fan in me (and I've no doubt there are others who can relate to you as well). Reading your well written posts give me much pleasure, please keep it up! :)
 
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If there is a main alter, do you think that they are in anyway aware? Perhaps present but quiet, or occasionally coming to the forfront as the predominant alter?

Do you think there are more alters hidden away?

Have you ever taken a powerful psychedelic? I'm think mainly salvia or DMT.
 
Working with your alters with a trauma specialist psych? I have had some experience with inter-family systems therapy for PTSD and found it to be fairly helpful. Be careful about learning too much about different therapy styles before you seriously dig into your trauma. You may find yourself resisting the treatment unconsciously and it will be that much harder to find a psych 'sharp' enough to cut through that resistance.
 
I'm a schizo with PTSD and a spilt personality. Do you have repressed memories that can return to your mind at random? I'm 37 with similar mental illness and i am forever reliving past events ranging from trauma to conversations i have had with people from when i was younger that some how my mind has chosen or sub-consciencely forgotten. As you would think anti-psychotic medication helps me cope with the returning memories but sometimes things get too much and i have a nervous break down that requires a hospital visit. So far fortunately a new set of meds get me functioning again. I'm used to the mental illness cycle that is my life but i normally get 7 good years between hospital visits (touch wood) Like everyone i have my good and bad days.

Yeah! Repressed memories are extremely common with DID. In fact in some cases including mine certain alters form specifically for the purposes of holding traumatic memories away from the awareness of the other alters. The memories repressed through my memory holding alter can't return to my awareness unless she is at last partially in control (and often that means I won't remember having been aware of them because even partial loss of control to an alter can trigger my amnesia) but I have memories of my own that I've dissociated from to a more minor degree that will return at random and can trigger flashbacks or other PTSD symptoms.

PTSD is at least partially caused by failure to process traumatic events (and thus being forced to relive them as the brain attempts to process them) and DID is considered by some doctors to be an extremely severe form of PTSD where the structural dissociation involved occurred before the age at which a person can form a singular identity. For this reason it's almost universal for anyone with DID to have repressed memories that sometimes come up when their brain thinks it's safe to begin processing them, the same thing occurs with both PTSD and C-PTSD just to a differing degree and sometimes with different resulting symptoms. Medication can help with this by minimizing the amount of associated anxiety however processing trauma memories in a safe therapeutic environment is the only way known to improve this long term.

It can be really really hard to live with these things, I'm sorry you struggle so much but I'm glad you've manged to get such long periods between hospitalizations! I'm going on my 5th year with no visits to the psych ward now. I did have to go to a crisis residential for a couple of days in 2016 but I've managed to stay away from inpatient hospitals and it's nice to be free of that environment.

Forgive me if this comment comes off as a bit trite Emptty, but have you ever seen the movie The Scribbler? I feel like you might enjoy it.

I really hope you are able to make your way in the mental health field, as I see you as becoming an amazing clinician one day! You have so much depth and insight, and you clearly have seen and experienced things most cannot imagine, it would be such a waste for you not to pursue your dreams and achieve your potential (as you yourself come to understand it).

Anyways, I just wanted to let you know you have yourself a fan in me (and I've no doubt there are others who can relate to you as well). Reading your well written posts give me much pleasure, please keep it up! :)

I've actually never heard of it but I looked it up and it looks pretty interesting, looks like it's on Netflix so I might give watching it a go tonight! I'm glad you enjoy reading what I write and I have to say my time on BL has encouraged me quite a bit to look into the mental health field as a career choice. I had considered it before but was also considering going into animal husbandry (I very much love raising reptiles as a hobby) and couldn't choose between the two, but I've started to recognize how much I have to offer with the perspective I have and I would love to see that help people like me someday.

I have a long way to go before I can be on that side of things in the mental health system but going back to college is definitely a goal of mine that I'd like to pursue when I'm sober and more stable.

If there is a main alter, do you think that they are in anyway aware? Perhaps present but quiet, or occasionally coming to the forfront as the predominant alter?

If by main you mean the one who is most willing to take control or interact with me that seems to change over time for us, it used to be I wasn't even the one usually in control. It took about a year after I formed for me to become the one that had primary control and I still suspect something happened around that time to cause the first primary alter to relinquish that position to me.

Aside from me right now I would think that the predominant alter is Cobi, I don't see tons of evidence of her taking control when I lose time and she's fairly quiet now but I do know she's the one that tends to show up when I'm under stress and is the one that my therapist has had the most interaction with. This is unsurprising as she's also the one who was primarily in control when I first came around, she now functions as a memory holder and a protector so she hangs onto traumatic memories and will take partial or full control if I'm faced with something that makes me fear for my safety. She's more eager to react to threats to my physical safety (either assault from others, potential for accidental injury or threats of self-harm) but has also reacted a few times to false threats like me feeling unsafe due to a flashback.

When communication is easier she is the one who speaks to me the most and takes or shares control the most, I remember as a young teenager I would have back and forth conversations with her all day (while the others chimed in occasionally) and it felt almost like sharing a body with my best friend. Things have changed over time of course due to traumatic events that have happened and biochemical changes we experienced due to medication or substance use but back then she was definitely the main and I'd say she probably is now too. Of all of us she has the most complex and developed identity even compared to me, I do believe she has direct relation to the original and may even have been the first alter to split.

From what I can tell she is very aware of the situation, actually of all of us the only ones that ever seem to lack awareness of the disorder or other alters are me (through lack of knowledge & periods of denial), Ryann (who only developed about a year ago) and the younger alters who I think just don't understand it all well since they understand things in the way children do. We have one alter called James whose primary purpose is holding onto information about our case of DID, about our alters and about our history. I believe most of the other alters are more able to communicate with him than I am which is why they're fairly aware of the situation, I have spoken with him some but it's hard for me to communicate with any alters these days and occasionally when we can talk he'll just answer my questions with a simple "It's best you don't know the answer to that". The point of his job being to keep order between us and to keep me able to function in daily life without interference from excessive knowledge of trauma or of my disorder. The other alters don't need to be as functional as I am since they have control less often so I'd imagine he's willing to share more complicated information about our situation with them.

If you mean aware of what happens when she's not in control, I think to a certain degree she is. In my experience it's possible for an alter to be conscious while another is in control and I think Cobi along with some of the others fade in and out of that state while James is in an almost constant state of co-consciousness. It's what happens to me when Niko is in control and has happened once when James was.

Do you think there are more alters hidden away?
Personally I don't believe so but I also have no real way to tell, I know within the past two years I've discovered 3 alters I hadn't spoken to before. It's hard to tell if they're newly split or just newly discovered but I believe that Ryann and Niko are both newly split which would mean only one of them was actually hidden from me. It's totally possible there are more and many people with DID discover hidden alters throughout their life especially as they start to receive treatment and explore the existence of their alters. Only time will really tell if there are any others hidden away, I'm hoping to learn more about the one I discovered but it's been hard as one of my other older alters is very set on preventing me from having contact with the newly discovered one. So far I know his age, gender and what he looks like (with DID some people have an inner world which allows them to see their alters and allows alters to have appearances that differ from the body) but I have only spoken to him directly once and don't even know his name for sure. I'm under the impression that it's Joshua but haven't been able to confirm that.

Have you ever taken a powerful psychedelic? I'm think mainly salvia or DMT.
I haven't taken either of those, the only psychedelics I've had experience with are LSD and DOC. After my DOC trip I decided any psychedelic more powerful than a low dose of acid probably wasn't for me and chose not to experiment with any other psychedelic drugs.

Working with your alters with a trauma specialist psych? I have had some experience with inter-family systems therapy for PTSD and found it to be fairly helpful. Be careful about learning too much about different therapy styles before you seriously dig into your trauma. You may find yourself resisting the treatment unconsciously and it will be that much harder to find a psych 'sharp' enough to cut through that resistance.

Yup! I currently see a psychiatrist (who is an autism specialist but has been seeing me since I was 9 1/2 for medication management) and a therapist who specializes in trauma and personality disorders that I've been seeing since 2015. The therapist is who I am primarily working on my DID symptoms with since she's the trauma specialist but my psychiatrist knows of the diagnosis and takes it into account before suggesting a symptom be treated with meds.

I'm afraid it's a bit late to avoid learning about therapy styles. Our first experience with the mental health system was when we were 4 1/2 when my parents were seeking an autism diagnosis for us, since I formed when we were 12 I was basically born into living within the mental health system and over time I learned if I wanted to get the treatment I needed I had to know exactly what I needed because doctors rarely listen and often don't know what to do if you can't be fixed with meds. I got into a pretty strong habit of researching my diagnoses and their treatment and of questioning any professional I don't deeply trust (which is most of them). I've tried to learn with my current therapist to step back and let her treat me without questioning or resisting her to much but it takes a pretty high degree of trust (that she's lucky to have earned) and isn't something I'm used to doing. It's a conscious effort to not resist treatment but I feel it's one of the many things that I've managed to improve on with hard work and I expect to get better at it as I work with a therapist I trust.
 
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Do specific alters excel at specific coping strategies? I would imagine that if this state of consciousness has its roots in trauma that could be advantageous. For example, if a child is being abused and takes on rage and acting out as a defense strategy this could separate her from her own softer side. Perhaps an alter that responded in a much more passive way to the abuse would in fact be preserving a part of the self. It seems an almost amazingly protective response if you see it that way.
 
Do specific alters excel at specific coping strategies? I would imagine that if this state of consciousness has its roots in trauma that could be advantageous. For example, if a child is being abused and takes on rage and acting out as a defense strategy this could separate her from her own softer side. Perhaps an alter that responded in a much more passive way to the abuse would in fact be preserving a part of the self. It seems an almost amazingly protective response if you see it that way.

Yes! Actually something I've noticed is often as an alter develops the personality traits, temperament, coping skills and perception of the world they develop tends to align well with whatever purpose they formed to serve.

As an example Cobi's purpose is to protect us from physical harm so she is impulsive and tends to cope with bad situations by becoming defensive and angry, sometimes to the point of being outright aggressive. We have another alter named Rose whose purpose is to care for and comfort the youngest of the alters so her temperament is very gentle, patient and empathetic. James functions to manage the system and mediate disputes between alters so his personality and coping style involves being very emotionally detached in a way that makes him a neutral party in all situations.

Separation of different parts of the self can occur not just to create alters that are able to cope in ways the other parts may not be comfortable with/capable of but also to preserve pieces of the original self when keeping them as an integrated piece would make survival more difficult. This of course is at it's most extreme in the pieces that split off to hold traumatic memories but I've also seen it to a more minor degree in two of our younger parts.

I have two alters named Melody and Haley that manifest as twins, they are both 7 years old and look identical to one another. Their only differences are in personality, to put simply they are manifestations of who we were (Melody) and who the adults in our life wanted us to be and tried to make us into (Haley). By having an ideal version of ourself split away from a realistic one we were able to avoid further abuse by attempting to live up to the standards set for us while still preserving who we really were at the time in a space where the abuse couldn't reach and change that version of her.
 
I live with DID as well, and so did my wife who recently passed away. My system consists of 7 and hers of 8, so it wasn't easy having 15 minds come into an agreement. But we managed to. It took some time, but all of our parts got someway somehow involved with each other with different dynamics, but overall we had an unconditional, unconventional, crazy love.

I have a pretty good understanding of the disorder and also of other mental issues associated with it. I'm also very knowledgeable when it comes to medications.

I just joined this website, and this is literally my first post so bare with me.

I think I could be of help to you and vice versa.
 
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