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Somebody on here has to get to the bottom of this - i'm sure that they know. i know there is this huge debate over whether this is an actual addiction or what etc, but please look at these anecdotes. if somebody can work out what is driving this progressive, obscenely powerful craving and drive to engaging in compulsive sexual behaviours then i think that we can be in the jackpot from there. no doubts about it.

im fucking waiting and waiting for the specialists to see. man, i can't even describe how hard this is, but im holding onto my life so that i can get help.

i swear down, that if i did not have DP/DR, i would seriously consider ibogaine.

but i hope beyond hope that there is SOMETHING out there that can help me. living at the mercy of this or having these compulsions in your head is fucking messed up.

i should add that at its worst, the right hand side of my head was throbbing and it felt like an electric current was transmitting across there. is that anatomically relevant? that is not normal and there was no "trigger" for my addiction at that point either: just pure electric compulsivity to engage in these behaviours.
 
Overcoming said:
i should add that at its worst, the right hand side of my head was throbbing and it felt like an electric current was transmitting across there. is that anatomically relevant? that is not normal and there was no "trigger" for my addiction at that point either: just pure electric compulsivity to engage in these behaviours.
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Could be a coinciding "migraine" due to a stress response. Migraine for lack of a better word (there are specific criteria for a migraine)
 
Hmm could be. Perhaps it was migraine associated with craving, I don't know. I do remember it feeling like an electric transmission was passing between two points or another analogy that I used, was that it felt as if my head was on fire in that particular anatomical spot. It would go down after drinking alcohol - only a modest amount as well, say a beer or one shot of malt whisky.

*Something* is going on, and we need to get to the bottom of this. Sadly, I do not have much faith at all in the Uk mental health system. The whole nation is talking about it so im not the only one complaining. It is scary. I would even get a job to earn money for a private psych, but there is not guarantee at all that they would try anything. Let's pray that the psychosexual team whom I do see are very good. I am very scared at this point tbh.

Just had a look at the profile of the psychiatrist whom I think will be treating me. He does seem do specialise in many areas of psychosexual medicine as well as management of paraphilias and pharmacological management of hyper sexual disorder (sex addiction) > according to his website.
 
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Overcoming said:
Hmm could be. Perhaps it was migraine associated with craving, I don't know. I do remember it feeling like an electric transmission was passing between two points or another analogy that I used, was that it felt as if my head was on fire in that particular anatomical spot. It would go down after drinking alcohol - only a modest amount as well, say a beer or one shot of malt whisky.
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The theory of migraine is that neurological activity causes release of inflammatory/vasodilative substances from trigeminal neurons/cranial nerves, once they cause vasodilation of the arteries the throbbing arises, and the trigeminal neurons also innervate the face/head.

Alcohol could be helping because it alters neural activity - while most people will get headaches as a hangover because of rebound excitation leading to release of said vasodilatory substances (and dehydration as well).

Stress will worsen migraines through multiple mechanisms.

There is some overlap between migraine and some mental illness. Its possible that a mood stabilizer (Depakote et cetera) that sees use in treating migraines and trigeminal neuralgia as well as primarily bipolar/depression could be particularly effective for people with depression + migraine, but that's just speculation on my part (I haven't really looked for evidence that eg Depakote is a good choice for people with bipolar/depression + migraine, so the evidence could still be out there).

Depakote also tends to lower testosterone.

In addition Depakote is also a HDAC inhibitor, and HDAC inhibitors have interesting effects on DeltaFosB.
 
Since I took the ibogaine it has gone down, so hopefully I won't need something like Depakote...although that may be what is given to me by the doctor, who knows really.
 
Its interesting that sodium valporate depakote helps migrains because i apply like 1 g of stearate topically for headache i took it as just the sensation and odor is calming
 
Again I have done more thinking about this, and this has got absolutely nothing to do with my sexuality. I used to go to an adult website to select an escort to use, and each time this was a female escort. At no point in my life did I ever even want a transgender escort. Literally, like it never even crossed my mind.

Anyway, being gay or bisexual would make my problem very easy to be solved.

I am really stuck in hell here. My cravings are so intense and painful, in every sense of the word. They are going to drive me to suicide unless I get this sorted out. I don't know whether it is because I have used SO much porn growing up as well as lots of drugs (sometimes together: I used GBL and then would go on porn binges), that I have made my brain addicted to this. I know have a very lively debate in here, but at the end of the day, from my point of view what am I going to do?
 
Overcoming said:
sometimes together: I used GBL and then would go on porn binges
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Maybe anything sexual becomes a cue for the drug of abuse. Considering guys typically think about sex constantly, this would be a mechanism by which a guy could end up constantly thinking about a drug cue, triggering cravings.

But would the cravings be for both the drug and the sex because the incentive salience for the two blend and combine together, and are somewhat inseparable? I guess I'm picturing the dopamine release from the cue associated with the drug of abuse (thoughts of sex) triggering a craving that really should be for e.g. amphetamine, but maybe the brain also interprets it as incentive salience for sex and such.
 
BTW, I have started a thread in the Sober living section.

If anybody on here can relate in any way, then please post either in this thread or the sober living one.
 
It is not normal to be suicidal over craving sex though. Could you maybe see a different doctor for second opinion
 
What i mean is tons of people are addicts. I watch porn sometimes for hours and do tons of drugs all day 24/7. But i dont feel such intense distress over it to the point of considering suicide. Maybe you have major depression and could benefit from a more holestic approach and i mean whole. I dont discrete ibogaine as it definitely helps people or that somepeople do have very real issues controling their sexual impulses but even if you said i am addicted to the thoughtof having sex with dead bodies i spend all day spending my money on snuff films and if i cant stop i will kill myself for the good of society. Even in such a extreme example i think it would make much more sense to attempt to address both the cognitive thoughts behind his sexual choices and behind why he feels his life is worth so little if he cant he should just die. And, considering potentiallly medications not for sexual behavior but for his feelings of hopelessness dispair and worthlessness. I actually commited suicide and was in icu fkr weeks tried to cutt out all masterbation and porn it didnt work. I really think the only way to prevent you from having dangerous sex be it with a transexual or female where you out yourself at risk of early death from things like hiv is a combination of therapy not just about sex but your thoughts and behaviors and beliefs about everything and possible medication for suicidal thoughts because even if your thinking well thats only if i dont get this undercontrol the fact you even included it as a rational thought process to me suggests you need help which isnt a big deal people have things go wrong in their heart knee all over the place and there is nothing wrong with using using a crutch or two if you. Have a broken leg
 
Overcoming, have you been practicing mindfulness at least?

One issue that people can have with a busy mind is that they are constantly thinking about things that provoke cravings. Just take for example the saying "mental masturbation" - if you have that going on then mindfulness could really help you because it will help you stay in the present moment and reduce the thoughts of sex that provoke cravings and horniness.

Mindfulness is also effective for depression and anxiety.
 
I would start off with an app called Headspace, but there are some resources on YouTube as well. They will teach you the basics - the idea is to focus your attention on an anchor like the feeling of the breath. Then notice when you are lost in thought, and once again return your attention to the breath. This can be frustrating at first, but every time that you notice yourself lost in thought is a victory.

Cutting down on rumination and the aberrant circuitry it activates is really important.
 
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