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Codeine - Retrospective - a personal summary

narcomick

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Codeine. Analgesic. Narcotic. And a whole lot more.

Firstly, hope this is the right place as I'm not exactly posting an experience report per say.

This is, as the title suggests, a summary of my experience with codeine. For the purpose of providing more detail, I will be giving three specific dose related effects segments with each time frame (low medium and high dose).



T+10-30mins initial effects.
LOW: minor feelings of warmth slowly build. I may be somewhat anxious at first but this will be replaced by a calmer feeling at the end of this period

MEDIUM: same as above but slightly stronger and with quicker onset. A feeling of content may become apparent. Thought may be 'numbed' but this usually passes.

HIGH: like medium but stronger, I may be close to peaking at 30 mins and may feel more uneasy, as a stronger conciousness change occurs. Euphoria may be experienced around the half hour mark.

T+30-60mins come up

LOW: warmth and relaxation may be felt. A sense of well being may become apparent.

MEDIUM: happy feeling takes hold. Pleasant body high. A foggy headed feeling may be present.

HIGH: rush of euphoria. May be overwhelming but a mild sedation soon takes hold. Nausea is another possibility.

T+1-4hrs peak

LOW: happy, sociable and warm. Some relaxation or even mild sedation. Pleasant body sensations may occur

MEDIUM: euphoria. Full body high. Intense relaxation. Emotional enhancement . Spiritual feelings sometimes occur. Nodding is obtainable and may result in the odd opiate dream, but not always.

HIGH: strong euphoria in body and mind. Dreamy headspace and creative thinking. Sometimes mild dissociation and or time dilation. Nodding may be undesirable due to slow breathing and I may only lay down for short periods. If I do nod, however, and stay awake with eyes closed vivid opiate dreams (intense daydreams/hypnogogia) may be obtained, I may even see (faint) CEV's and intense, colourful, swaying 'playful' minds eye visuals, including psychedelic-like geometry, but while being more dreamlike than normal visuals this will also be more controlable and random compared to true psychedelics. Later in the peak i often find codeine produces empathogenic qualities and intense emotional states, it's easier to see beauty in nature, and i have a stronger connection with people, animals and nature. I may even enter a child like state of awe and wonder, and this will feel very spiritual, only psychedelics and opiates have ever done this to me.

2-8hrs Post peak and afterglow.

LOW the effects will subside into a residual warmth, with some mellowness, before vanishing completley near the end of this time frame.

MED effects will take longer to subside and moderate Itching may occur. 'Mellow' afterglow will persist for many hours in most cases.

HIGH I may not start to come down until quater way through this stage, and the come down will be slow and gradual. An afterglow like above is likley, but I may be nostalgic of the experience and be tempted to re dose, although redosing with codeine is almost always fruitless. Sometimes the experience will be so good I feel that that's enough for me and will not want to re dose. Moderate to strong itching.

Conclusion:
Codeine is no doubt a wonderful drug, a comparatively mild but thouroughly enjoyable opiate capable of strong emotional or even spiritual feelings in my opinion. Just remember to take long breaks, always start with a tiny dose to gauge your reaction, don't re-dose later in the day and remember that this is a drug in the same class as heroin. After all, it's easy to forget that this is an addictive drug. even if you don't think so after a few weeks of continuous use, after this point you will likley become addicted, and may be taking higher doses just to achieve a mild effect. Trust me. If you want to enjoy a drug recreationaly, use it as little as you can. It keeps the magic that way. Also in case I didn't make it clear, this is a stereotypical experience of codeine according to me only. Results may vary! I feel I'm writing a report for erowid here, with the disclaimer and everything, and I'm sure you guys already know the risks, but i just want to stress to anyone looking to try any opiate that it is addictive, and no amount of willpower will prevent that if you like these drugs' effects.

Anyway, thankyou for reading! stay safe, and have fun.

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Thanks for sharing. :) I remember before I really got into opiate addiction I tried codeine once or twice at college and I liked it more than hydrocodone, although of course it is less potent by far. Later on, I didn't get much from it. But I was taking poppy tea (oral opium basically, containing primarily morphine but also plenty of codeine, and some lesser alkaloids such as thebaine) so a dose of just codeine wasn't going to cut it anymore.

Not an opiate addict anymore by the way. :)
 
Glad to hear you beat the addiction! My use has got somewhat out of hand at the moment so I'm probably taking a break. Also being prescribed pregabalin soon which should allow me to cut out using codeine. I don't plan on saying any final goodbyes to it though, I've sown some lovely somniferum v. Peanofloeum 'venus' seeds which should allow me to make some tea this summer/autumn as well as adding some colour to the garden. My only worry is that I may have to weed them out a little. I actualy got to know opium at college, there was a wild poppy outside and i took about ten heads. ate them like apples and made my first tea.. only had minor effects though so maybe i did something wrong but they were definatley p. Somniferum. Hope I'm sounding coherent, just woke up and rather groggy.
 
I edited the post as I took a high dose today and had an experience comparable to a good trip on a low dose of psychedelics, no visuals or mindfuck of course but some profound realisations and states that felt truly spiritual. I hate to glorify an opiate but I really wasn't expecting this. I'm only just past the peak and feel somewhat in awe of the beauty this experience has shown me. I think the converted morphine's affinity for the kappa receptor may have played a role here, this was more than just getting 'fucked up' or euphoric.
 
^^ Good luck with continuing to use them without your life spiraling out of control, since you already have gotten out of hand a bit. Some people can do it, hell, my good friend had a serious, life-disrupting IV heroin addiction, beat it, and years later now he occasionally shoots opiates like oxy. I mean VERY occasionally, like once or twice a year. He does it by only doing them if they fall into his hands and never having a stash. Me, once that addiction set in, any time I used them once after stopping I would eventually spiral out of control. It built very slowly, it took years to get to a bad place and it took until about 8 years in to feel like I wanted to die every day, where the highest point of my daily highs were still a thousand times lower than my lowest days without being addicted to opiates. It was fucking hell man. Just wanted to throw that out there. Opiates can get out of hand pretty easily, and the scariest part is, you don't see it coming. Everyone thinks they can be in control with opiates, and thinks they are in control, until they are free-falling, and by then it's too late to turn back without a tremendous amount of work and pain.

Also, poppy tea is what REALLY got me, it's a better opiate than even heroin in my opinion. Lasts all day, is way stronger than codeine (it has a lot of codeine in it but morphine is the main thing there). The pull was so strong. I mention this since you're growing poppies. It's gonna be a lot better than codeine, hence you'll need to be even more careful.

Don't mean to be a buzzkill, just relating my experience.
 
No I understand, and you've made me think about this more. I'm going to cut down soon, I should be prescribed lyrica too which will facilitate that. I also happen to have an endless supply of clonidine and clonazepam for anxiety which will mean the withdrawal will hopefilly be little. I already need 5 times more than what I did with no tolerance, and although its only once a day i do crave it and the effects are diminished or even only slight. I realise its takimg hold of me and so I'll cut down now while I still can. I love codeine but now it's loosing it's magic I need to quit. I'm only a few weeks in so I can only imagine how this would go long term, alot like you describe Id imagine. I'm actualy thankful as your depiction of codeine abuse has put me off the drug. I'll limit my use to weekends and pain relief. Hopefully the pregabalin may stop my use altogether, it may still be addictive but I'm okay with being addicted to the Meds I need, it's the ones I don't that are the problem
 
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Yeah pregabalin will definitely fill that void, and also it drastically reduces opiate withdrawal which is cool.

I'm really glad to hear that my efforts made an impact. :) Awesome man. Makes me feel like something good came from my experience.
 
You can call pressing buttons spiritual but until you see god and shake his hand imo your getting fucked up and calling it anything else is like puting a wolf in sheeps clothing so it doesnt sound as dangerous letting him in your house.
 
Yeah, 'seeing god' isn't my thing.. I'd rather just chill out and feel connected to nature. That's my definition of spiritual. To others it may be a troop of dmt elves kicking down your door and jumping into your chest, but after learning what I can from psychedelics I also learnt that they're not for me, and that i don't want anything crazy, especialy when I'm already not the sanest of people. Not everyone needs potent psychedelics, or even drugs at all for that matter, to be spiritual o.p. Using one class of drugs does not make you superior to any other kind of drug user.. maybe that's the socialist in me talking but I'm not going to be told my experiences are inferior to yours when you are not me and vice versa.
 
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Oo no i dont use psychadelics i use amphetamine. I am not trying to discredit your experience just what i was trying to say is describing it as spiritual could make it appear safer then it actually issue because when you think of getting high i think danger but spiritual sounds less threatening. What i was trying to say is your pressing chemical buttons and if you press the wrong one one too hard you can stop breathing. Idk if that makes senseb
 
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