5-APB -- No Hangover No Comedown - Experiences - please post

[Jabberwocky]

Recent Empirical Observation and Experimentation has yielded a picture of 5-APB that stands in stark contrast to MDMA

Observations:

1. Redosing works - every time

2. Remarkably low doses are effective (~20 mg) -- multiple low doses allow for long sessions of effects

3. When you are back to baseline it seems like nothing was ingested

4. Afterglow = horny as fuck

5. only identified drawback -- significant diuretic/dehydrating effect

6. seems to possibly reduce/remove HPPD symptoms caused by other MDXX use (sounds crazy but seriously it seems that way)

7. Can appear completely sober/unaltered even when at a +2

 

[EntheoDjinn]

How close to the MDMA feeling do you reckon it provides? Is it a really good substitute or is it pleasant in its own right but inferior when compared to MDMA (in your opinion).

 

[Jabberwocky]

How close to the MDMA feeling do you reckon it provides? Is it a really good substitute or is it pleasant in its own right but inferior when compared to MDMA (in your opinion).

AT the correct dosage : better

 

[LucidSDreamr]

how long does it last for you?...until down to basline?

what about the comeup? I loved 6 apb but hated the long comeups which often took over two hours of jitters before a smooth roll would kick in.

 

[lifeisbeautiful]

Never heard of this drug before! Is this drug legal?

 

[Jabberwocky]

how long does it last for you?...until down to basline?

what about the comeup? I loved 6 apb but hated the long comeups which often took over two hours of jitters before a smooth roll would kick in.

depends on the dose -- from a single low dose 2-4 hours after come-up larger doses 4-6 hours, even LARGE doses are done about 6-8 hours after the come-up , after any redose figure 4 hours -- YMMV

1-1.5 hours oral come-up
45 min - 1 hour plugged (water dissolved)
initial 10-15 min partial, then 1-1.5 hours insufflated (will feel like dust in your lungs)

30-45 minutes sublingual

 

[Jabberwocky]

Never heard of this drug before! Is this drug legal?

Depends on where you live.

In places where it is not explicitly scheduled, it still may fall under analog acts

 

[EntheoDjinn]

AT the correct dosage : better

Thanks for the info. One more thing then - what guidance would you give with reference to the "correct dosage". Rather than YMMV, do you think there are ball-park figures, or do you have an idea of mg/kg body weight?

 

[Jabberwocky]

Thanks for the info. One more thing then - what guidance would you give with reference to the "correct dosage". Rather than YMMV, do you think there are ball-park figures, or do you have an idea of mg/kg body weight?

The APBs tend to have a very large variance with respect to the dose-response curve -- on an individual basis

For some 80 mg will knock them on their ASS

For others 120 mg

Furthermore, the difference between wonderful bliss and scarily overwhelming effects can be 10 or 20 mg

Personal titration (increasing dosage by small increments to assess response - like 10 mg increase per test) is absolutely necessary with the APBs

6-APB is like 5-APB but longer lasting (much much longer), more intense and psychedelic