Porn addiction, amphetamines, ssris

[deadendgame]

Yeah man. I been thinking about this and i find it absurd that you cant quit this immediately. But now i realize that you been doing this shit for 5 years whereas i only did it for one year so of course it's gonna be hard for you. You built up such an addicting habit of jacking off on stims that it left an imprint on your mind. This is a pretty hard thing to quit. Im not gonna lie, i admit that i still have trouble in that just looking at any girl makes me horny. I dont know what else to say to you. The best advice i can give you is to not take any stims and maybe hop on the downers train. Trust me, you wont be horny on them benzos

 

[neversickanymore]

I would not look for cure in another substance. Let alone benzos.

 

[Moreaux]

Hi everyone,

just to clarify a few things. I have always been more or less depressed and anxious. Porn isn't the cause of this.

I fulfill nearly all of those points listed above.
But going without porn and fapping for 90 days seems impossible to me. How shall I pull this off?
Especially when I try "no fap" as well then the risk of ending up watching porn and fapping to it is even bigger compared to fapping at the same time.
But if using fantasies is as bad as watching porn then the problem is that I can't cum when I fap which makes fapping useless.

What I also know is that things which drag me down also make me vulnerable to porn. A few weeks ago I wanted to quit and had made up my mind and then
something happened which depressed me and then I did it again. It's like when something bad happens I need my fix, the way other people start drinking alcohol
or stuffing themselves with junk food.

I also don't think that I can stop taking stimulants especially not now. I feel like on days where I take nothing I feel more depressed and I don't want to feel more depressed.
After being diagnosed with ADD I also feel like I need stims in order to function. I can't really tell how much stims really do but it's also a bit like a mental dependence you just
think you need them.
Maybe there's also a placebo effect. Sometimes when I need to do some work and I really don't want to them I take some stims and then I say to myself that I'm gonna get started
now and then I imagine that the stims help me and give me some motivation.
Even if it's only placebo then it's still helping a bit.

What do I do now?
Qutting porn,fapping and stims is too much I won't be able to do this.

I'm not the best person to weigh in on this issue as I'm an older chick and don't have much experience with porn. I checked it out for a week when I first got internet at my apartment back in the 90's to see what all the fuss was about and didn't look at it again. I will say I spent sometime on that yourbrainonporn site which was interesting. I do want to agree with NSA, additional substances most likely are not going to resolve this problem.

I also wanted to comment on something you said which I bolded above. You say that porn is not the root cause of your depression and anxiety, but you've been doing this for five years, so just because it wasn't the original root issue doesn't mean it's not having a negative impact now. I'm guessing you are young, and it's known that people go through a lot of physical and mental changes as they develop from teens until around 24, so that may also be a factor. If I'm correct and you are younger, the root cause of your present issues may not be the same as they were five years ago, so keep an open mind.

If possible, request a neurotransmitter level test from your doctor to see if your serotonin or dopamine is low. Out of curiosity, at what age were you diagnosed with ADD and how long have you been taking medication for it? I'm asking because you are not the first person that I have encountered to have a porn/masterbation issue and I have to wonder if the medication is a factor. Of course this is just my personal speculating, and as stated above, I'm pretty ignorant to the whole topic. I'm only commenting because I don't want to see anyone try to self medicate with other drugs/medications that may make the situation worse by adding an additional addiction or other issues to the problem.

 

[deadendgame]

Porn is one of the causes. The other cause is the stims. I know because i been in this cycle of addiction to stims at the same time as the addiction to porn. You get stuck in this cycle of obsessing about pretty women and jacking off nonstop on stims. Take away the stims and youre still horny but lose the ability to jack off. Frustrating I know. What im saying is you been stuck in this vicous cycle and are now unable to break it. You been in this cycle for 5 years so that is why it is so hard to stop. Unfortunately no one can help you because not many have been camping in their basement for 5 years jacking off nonstop because not many can afford that luxury. Just take it day by day man. You will get your life back. The only reason why i recommend downers because it will lower your libido such that you will lose the desire to look at porn and jack off because you really need to break this cycle. Im not an expert on this but this is my input because again, i did not have the luxury of jacking off for 5 years as much as i wanted to. I was stopped before shit got out of hand which is probably a good thing

 

[deadendgame]

Its not even the sex addiction you need to worry about. What you need to worry about is the anhedonia. I struggle with this to this very day as i cannot find any enjoyment or pleasure in life. At first it is going to be a fucking grind getting into the groove but when you look back, you will realize how much you accomplished

 

[bodevelho]

I've been doing this for the last 3 years... any stimulant will increase your sexual drive.. I've tried alot of stimulants, some stimulants combined with sex, can make you feel better then a common orgasm and during hours and hours non stop.. you don't even have to orgasm in the end.. the feeling you get while on it is better.. it's sick.. that's why this is so addicting.. it's even more addicting then the drug itself you are using.. the real addiction is the combination of using a stimulant and porn/sex.. I no longer look forward to just take a stimulant and just be social or go to a party.. my mind can't escape the though of "I would be having a better time if I just do some porn and not waste this high on something else". Even when I had a girlfriend... we both did stimulants and we started to feel that sex without stimulants was not enjoyable any more.. at least I did.. Even worst... it reached a point where sex with my gf was not enough I had to be watching porn at the same time.. and pretty damn high.. that was the best combination for me... now porn and stimulants is all I got..

In the beginning I didn't care much, but after a while.. every time I do this I feel really bad about myself.. not just the hangover but really disappointed with my self.. it's not the time that is wasted.. or the damage to your mind and dick.. and god knows what other organs.. but what pisses me off the most is that I can't really do much about it.. I can't say no do it... a lot of times I think to myself.. I'll just enjoy this stimulant and do something else like meeting new people, go to a party, learn new stuff or do new activities.. or just thinking about anything you like, from a completely different perspective and without the chains of sobriety.. that's what made me do drugs in the first place and that's what I loved about them... but this? This is just stupid... non productive auto destructive.. it's damaging your body and mind in ways I don't even know yet.. but I can already feel it.. and yet I know it won't stop just by simply me realizing how bad this is... this is because like OP said.. I got nothing else on my life to fill this void... I mean I'm not a homeless or someone without any friends.. I have a job.. I consider my self to be quite responsible and able to maintain a self discipline use of drugs which won't affect my professional or social life.. and that could be 100% true in the beginning of my use, but I've started to become sloppy lately, I can already feel it, eventually the only way this is going o to end is for the opposite of that. you will fuckup that day of work.. which will start to become an habit.no saying you could be fired.. but it could happen.. you eventually will lose friends.. not all of them of course I hope not.. but that already started happening to me.. maybe not 100% just because of drug use... but if the only reason you are friend with someone is because you only share one common interest: drugs.. then it's for the best.. sorry for the light off-topic.. but my main concern about all this is that I seem to have lost all my freewill to say no to this.. it's like I'm slave to this pleasure.. I mean I'm not saying is bad.. it's probably the best feeling I ever experienced on this earth...but I'm still not facing the negative effects of this in the long run.. I really need to find a way to stop this.. It's easier to say no to drugs.. then say no to porn after you have the drugs... that's an almost instant reaction.. it's like it's not me taking that decision.. I feel I have no choise... I don't even stop to think about what I'm going to do.. it's like part of my brain goes in to auto-pilot.. I've tried alot of stuff not just stimulants.. opioids.. rcs like mdpv... they all are addictive but... this is on another level... Lately I've been able to only do this once a month or two months.. for me this is a great victory.. but that's mainly because I've tried to stay away from drugs.. but everytime I put my hands on a stimulant I know that at least 50% of that bag will be used on porn..

 

[razorcuts]

Hi guys,

I'm 33 yo.

I don't know where you read that I have been doing this for 5 years.

I started jacking off to porn 2 years ago. And I have been doing it regularly for 1,5 years now.

I was diagnosed with ADD 3 years ago.

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I don't do it every day but after a few days I get the feeling that I might do it again. It's the same feeling you
get when you dont jack off for a few days. After a while you simply feel like you should do it again.

I really don't have a high libido. I hardly get erections at all.

As a teenager I used to jack off when I was bored or when I felt depressed. Now it's the same thing, only with porn.

The actual trigger is hardly ever that I am horny this is rare. The trigger is feeling empty and I get this feeling all the time.
The difference between now and when I was younger is that back then I simply jacked off while now I'm tempted to jack off
to porn.

I don't really see how to overcome this. I mean as long as I am depressed I will always be more vulnerable. But overcoming depression
seems impossible. I've always been this way. I cannot even imagine how it would be like to not be depressed.

I wonder how do other people feel? What thoughts do they think all day? Do they also think that life seems pointless? Or do they simply
live and not even think about these things?

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Yes, anhedonia is a big problem. I don't know if I am anhedonic cause of my circumstances or because of neurotransmitters, probably both.

The best solution would be to replace porn with something else but I have nothing else. I have no hobby which I enjoy. The only things which
I enjoy is watching tv series or reading and these things cannot compete with porn. I mean when I feel the desire then I can't simply watch something
instead. This doesn't work. Then the desire will still be there afterwards and then I simply do it later.

After watching I usually feel bad about myself.
I am also repelled by most of the men in the videos. It's really hard to even find porn videos where they have men which do not look totally retarded.
Most of the porn videos which I come across seem to come from russia or other eastern countries and the male "actors" really look so retarded that even having
to see their faces totally turns me off.
I cannot even get aroused when I see a woman being nailed by somebody who looks so degenerated. There are a few of these degenerated amateur actors and I
come across them all the time in different videos. It's almost as if all porn nowadays is coming from countries like russia or poland.

 

[Napdmd]

Razorcuts I think everything has been said in this topic already. If you cannot get good erection while watching porn, need more and more hardcore porn to get off and feel disgusted every time you watched it means you have a really serious porn problem. It seems you also have Porn Induced Erectile Dysfunction (PIED). The reason why you are anhedonic/depressed is because of you fried your dopamine system. You need to stop the porn and amphetamines or you will keep feeling like the way you do now. I know it is hard to quit porn, but it is the only way to go. If the urges are that strong you should try to get some porn blockers like k9 web protection, OpenDNS umbrella, explicit web restriction for IOS or Android and block proxy sites. Use email accounts and special passwords you cant remember and give the access of the email accounts to a friend or family member so you cant cheat your way around the filters. At least try to stay away from porn for 90 days and masturbate with normal sexual fantasies instead of porn fantasies if you cant quit the masturbation for 90 days.

 

[herbavore]

^That is very good advice.

 

[Leiyvr]

Porn pretty hard demon to kick. I do well to avoid it normally but meth makes me thin

think im in my own porno, and I dont even have a real interested in it, but seem to spend a fortune on subsriptions. But im 36 and never had a girlfriend, and no real sex drive other than what meth brings. cant have sex without meth and kamagra, and then cant really have sex while im on it. pretty boring life. but the gym is probably the best cure if any, for all round better days, i just cant bring my self to make the change. good luck to u ..when you start looking at ladyboy porn cause u so off ur face and bored, or spend 12 hrs in pattaya in your hotel downloading porn on news years eve, or through away $190,000pa job cause you couldnt pull yourself away from the big srceen. time to go bush

 

[Ne0]

You do not even have to watch porn daily to be addicted. To know if you are addicted is easy.

1. You cant quit
2. You keep having urges to watch and even if you have no real urges your brain still reminds you to get that dopamine fix.
3. You get depressed/anxious after a porn binge
4. Need more hardcore porn to get stimulation (tolerance)
4. Life itself is super boring and nothing brings motivation, except the motivation to put on a porn site and jackoff to it
5. You have erectile dysfunction problems, cant masturbate without porn, have no morning wood, or no desire to try to have sex with a real person
6. When you quit you start getting withdrawal symptoms after a couple of days/weeks
7. You start getting (wet)dreams about watching porn if you have quit watching for a while


I think your ADD, depression problems comes from a screwed up reward system because of the porn/fap addiction and the amphetamines you keep using (and might keep you more horny). The amphetamines will only make things a lot worse. Your dopamine levels and receptor sensitivity is so low that it makes you depressed and gives you more ADD like symptoms. To get a relieve for that low dopamine you return to porn again for the dopamine fix, and this will start the addiction downward spiral (more downregulation of dopamine d2 receptors which give more depression, anhedonia, anxiety, sleep problems, urges etc.). I think it is good to start that 90 days of abstinence from porn/fapping/sex/orgasm/amphetamines and see what happens after 40 days. It can take a while for positive changes to be felt and you might actually start feeling worse at first because your brain misses that high dopamine fix. This can cause withdrawal symptoms like anxiety, more depression, fatigue, flu like feelings and even more libido loss. Also try not to fantasize about porn or sex because you will activate the same pathways that brought on the addiction (pathways that are sensitized to porn by glutamate and DeltaFosB). Try to live as a celibate monk for 90 days in your life and see what happens. After you start feeling better you can implement masturbating by touch alone (without porn) and sex again. It takes some willpower but maybe it is worth it.

90 days of abstinence is impossible for me after 1 week of abstinence I get so horny that I start to get aroused about things I normally wouldn't it always ends in 12h porn binge and the porn is always more hc. In the past I used opiates to reduce my hypersexuality, it worked greatly because I watched porn only once a month, for most people the low libido on opiates is negative sideffect but for me its very positive side effect, people who don't have hypersexuality don't know how negatively it affects persons life. Ive been thinking to go opiate maintenance program in order to reduce my sexuality, there seems no other way, ssris sdont reduce anything but they make me depressed.

Razorcuts I think everything has been said in this topic already. If you cannot get good erection while watching porn, need more and more hardcore porn to get off and feel disgusted every time you watched it means you have a really serious porn problem. It seems you also have Porn Induced Erectile Dysfunction (PIED). The reason why you are anhedonic/depressed is because of you fried your dopamine system. You need to stop the porn and amphetamines or you will keep feeling like the way you do now. I know it is hard to quit porn, but it is the only way to go. If the urges are that strong you should try to get some porn blockers like k9 web protection, OpenDNS umbrella, explicit web restriction for IOS or Android and block proxy sites. Use email accounts and special passwords you cant remember and give the access of the email accounts to a friend or family member so you cant cheat your way around the filters. At least try to stay away from porn for 90 days and masturbate with normal sexual fantasies instead of porn fantasies if you cant quit the masturbation for 90 days.

I prefer to watch porn over having a sex with woman, I can have sex with woman if I can do all the hc porn stuff like deepthroat, gagging, anal sex, etc. If I cant do these I don't even get hard. Usually I watch porn 2-3h a day, sometimes I might watch it 6h, if I take speed I watch it 12h. It's almost impossible to quit, I quit opiates and amphetamine without problem, but porn is totally different, its just impossible to quit.