EADD-Heroin-Discussion-v-XXIII-New shit - same old problems

[keeping]

Fuck! What happened? ODs are normally sorted out in a few hours once the Naloxone kicks in. Why the lengthy stay if you don't mind me asking?

not at all mate i'm happy to tell. basically i OD'd after smoking (what i thought was) heroin watching TV in bed at my parent's. it wasn't a total cessation of breathing what happened was i essentially did a Hendrix, but luckily i was on my side so it didn't totally obstruct my airways but by the time my parents heard my very weird snoring (which wasn't snoring at all, it was drowning in vomit) the gradual loss of oxygen to my brain slowly over night had resulted in brain damage.

the paramedics had to hit me with like four or five times the normal amount to reverse the opiate OD but the damage had already been done by the vomit so i was still comatose. they took me straight to hospital and from there ICU where they hooked me up to everything, took over my breathing etc etc, and then i woke up six days later. i only found out after that the toxicology on my blood (they did one as soon as i came in as the paramedics had no idea whynthey needed so much nalox to reverse the OD) came back as negative for heroin, even though that's what i had been smoking for months and the doctors put two and two together: fent doesn't come up on their basic test but essentially that's what i had taken, believing it was heroin.

sorry if this turning into a bit of an essay but the length of the stay (and this post) was because I'd received a not-insignificant amount of brain damage to my cerebellum in particular: but my entire brain as a whole was affected by the hypoxia to some extent. i was having delirious, open eye hallucinations for about a month, mild seizures and after that died down i was still very confused and delirious and my short-term memory was shot - then i had to learn to walk again and also re-learn how to use my left arm. my local hospital was amazing but it got to a point after two or three months that i needed to go to a specialist physical rehab centre to properly get back on my feet and i was sent to Queen Mary's hospital in Roehampton, where i spent the remainder of my time in hospital
p.s.: massive love to the staff, medical or otherwise, who helped me through that difficult time at Queen Mary's Hospital, Roehampton

aha sorry this is such a long one! 8(
i don;t think i've told you guys this one
if you wanna know anything else just ask

fuck fent

 

[F.U.B.A.R.]

not at all mate i'm happy to tell. basically i OD'd after smoking (what i thought was) heroin watching TV in bed at my parent's. it wasn't a total cessation of breathing what happened was i essentially did a Hendrix, but luckily i was on my side so it didn't totally obstruct my airways but by the time my parents heard my very weird snoring (which wasn't snoring at all, it was drowning in vomit) the gradual loss of oxygen to my brain slowly over night had resulted in brain damage.

the paramedics had to hit me with like four or five times the normal amount to reverse the opiate OD but the damage had already been done by the vomit so i was still comatose. they took me straight to hospital and from there ICU where they hooked me up to everything, took over my breathing etc etc, and then i woke up six days later. i only found out after that the toxicology on my blood (they did one as soon as i came in as the paramedics had no idea whynthey needed so much nalox to reverse the OD) came back as negative for heroin, even though that's what i had been smoking for months and the doctors put two and two together: fent doesn't come up on their basic test but essentially that's what i had taken, believing it was heroin.

sorry if this turning into a bit of an essay but the length of the stay (and this post) was because I'd received a not-insignificant amount of brain damage to my cerebellum in particular: but my entire brain as a whole was affected by the hypoxia to one extend or the other. i was having delirious, open eye hallucinations for about a month, mild seizures and after that died down i was still very confused and delirious and my short-term memory was shot - then i had to learn to walk again and also re-learn how to use my left arm. my local hospital was amazing but it got to a point after two or three months that i needed to go to a specialist physical rehab centre to properly get back on my feet and i was sent to Queen Mary's hospital in Roehampton, where i spent the remainder of my time in hospital

aha sorry this is such a long one! 8(
i don;t think i've told you guys this one
if you wanna know anything else just ask

fuck fent

Mate, thanks for sharing that. Sounds like you are one very lucky fucker. I suffered a near fatal (actual) heroin OD and was out the next day. I guess complications are possible regardless of substance, but it seems they are much more likely with fent et al. This is why I and others have been so worried about OM.

How are you now mate? I was told I could suffer permanent brain damage from the hypoxia, but AFAIK, I'm no more stupid now than I ever was. Can you identify any lasting symptoms?

 

[keeping]

Mate, thanks for sharing that. Sounds like you are one very lucky fucker. I suffered a near fatal (actual) heroin OD and was out the next day. I guess complications are possible regardless of substance, but it seems they are much more likely with fent et al. This is why I and others have been so worried about OM.

How are you now mate? I was told I could suffer permanent brain damage from the hypoxia, but AFAIK, I'm no more stupid now than I ever was. Can you identify any lasting symptoms?

and thank you for taking the time to read it mate i am a very lucky fucker indeed - the ambulance crew who took me to the hospital were practically in tears because they were convinced i was either going to die or never wake up. it really is all down to the luck - luck and youth the doctors told me. someone even ten years older than me would probably have passed.

and i share your concerns, fent is just merciless. i hate it.

i'm doing much better these days cheers pal. my hypoxic brain injury primarily effected the motor control part of my brain. you could call that a curse or a blessing, i'm just thankful that it hasn't changed my personality (aside from sending me on a crash course in maturity), according to some tests i've had done i've lost an estimated 12 IQ points (IQ is still above average, however ;p ) - primarily in maths but i was always terrible with numbers so who's to say.

i've only recently started walking to the shops without my cane, and my balance is practically non-existent. i will need to re-learn to swim, run and drive - they suspended my license both due to brain injury but also because i've apparently lost the peripheral vision in my right eye as a consequence too.

all in all i count myself as one lucky fucker and i'm just so glad that i can walk.
as i mentioned earlier, it was all down to luck and youth - could have been much, much worse.
PHEW ahahah right back to normal :D thanks for listening to me ramble on; and hope that OM shows himself sometime soon

 

[F.U.B.A.R.]

and thank you for taking the time to read it mate i am a very lucky fucker indeed - the ambulance crew who took me to the hospital were practically in tears because they were convinced i was either going to die or never wake up. it really is all down to the luck - luck and youth the doctors told me. someone even ten years older than me would probably have passed.

and i share your concerns, fent is just merciless. i hate it.

i'm doing much better these days cheers pal. my hypoxic brain injury primarily effected the motor control part of my brain. you could call that a curse or a blessing, i'm just thankful that it hasn't changed my personality (aside from sending me on a crash course in maturity), according to some tests i've had done i've lost an estimated 12 IQ points (IQ is still above average, however ;p ) - primarily in maths but i was always terrible with numbers so who's to say.

i've only recently started walking to the shops without my cane, and my balance is practically non-existent. i will need to re-learn to swim, run and drive - they suspended my license both due to brain injury but also because i've apparently lost the peripheral vision in my right eye as a consequence too.

all in all i count myself as one lucky fucker and i'm just so glad that i can walk.
as i mentioned earlier, it was all down to luck and youth - could have been much, much worse.
PHEW ahahah right back to normal :D thanks for listening to me ramble on; and hope that OM shows himself sometime soon

And let that be a warning to y'all!!

Much love to you Keeping, just keep on keeping on bro'

 

[keeping]

^ not sure what happened there but my post got all fucked up.

real talk: big love Fubz, felt good to get my story out there so thanks for taking the time to listen

 

[PredatorVision]

I really like the fent analogues.. when they are sold as fent analogues and not labelled as heroin. Two grams of fairly weak fent analogue gave me the best opiate high i'd had in a long time last weekend and lasted till tuesday, I bought a gram of street gear thursday as i'd been in semi-withdrawal despite having 12mg of subutex and it did absolutely nothing for me. I didn't even get high it's got so weak it did give me a secasion of withdrawal though, and I got another one on the friday just to get me through work. I've found recently that subutex is making me extremely apathetic, I spent wednesday at work just sat on my computer browsing wikipedia for 7 hours whilst hot and cold flashes went up my back.. Previously subs used to make me motivated at work. I decided not to bother with fent analogues for a while after that.

 

[mokele]

Keeping,you ever met the Person who sold u that fent? ?

 

[keeping]

mokele - yes, before the OD i used to go meet hin to pick up in Limehouse, LDN but since i got out o hospital i've made a point of avoiding the cunt; wouldn't end well for at least one of us if i went out looking for him,

 

[Rachella666]

Christ Keeping, that's scary, I'm here the last few hours smoking the patches I don't know why I'm doing it, only started last night, I'm prescribed them for fibromyalgia. I find smoking them weak as fuck, & wearing them too much. They're the 50mcg ones x

 

[mokele]

Keeping,thats the best modus operandi!
I wish i was that cool,i probably would have done sumthing very dumb and regretted when too late.I will remember you next time i get royally steaming at sumone.
Wish you the Best,great that it didnt go even worse!!!
Mo

 

[dsd]

Just got a text from my Drug/ Meth. Clinic:

Please be aware batches of heroin contaminated with fentanyl found in Ealing area, high risk of overdose, if you do use, please test strength first [email protected]
This is West London.
Be careful people.

If there's a specific warning thread please put it there.

 

[F.U.B.A.R.]

Just got a text from my Drug/ Meth. Clinic:

Please be aware batches of heroin contaminated with fentanyl found in Ealing area, high risk of overdose, if you do use, please test strength first [email protected]
This is West London.
Be careful people.

If there's a specific warning thread please put it there.

Fuckin hell, this seems to be the norm these days from what I can gather. A bad time to be an IV smackhead..

 

[mokele]

Prohibition driven market.If they cant get enough real gear in,resort to sumthing easier to get/synthesize.at least no shoddily made pethidine with people freezing up.Glad i switched to smoking,drought is on bad and fent
is the solution.
We pay the risk.
Always thought in UK there are Heroin maintenance Programms,that sounds very liberal,id love to be in one.

 

[dsd]

Further text to above^^^^


Please be advised that there have been confirmed findings of heroin contaminated with Fentanyl in a number of post mortems recently. Please be aware of increased overdose risk and test the strength of any heroin you buy. [email protected]

 

[dsd]

It's gone from overdose risk to confirmed deaths. Glad I don't bang up now a days.

 

[keeping]

Christ Keeping, that's scary, I'm here the last few hours smoking the patches I don't know why I'm doing it, only started last night, I'm prescribed them for fibromyalgia. I find smoking them weak as fuck, & wearing them too much. They're the 50mcg ones x

oo do be careful Rachel dear, perhaps it's just my instinctive distrust of anything fent-ish but if youRe not getting any pleasure out of it i'd say you'd better just use it to help with your fibro - unless tooting the patches keeps wd at bay. but yeah, i only view fent as a powerful medicine that is absolutey shite outside of medical parameters - and absolutely lethal in the hands of the unsuspecting.

hope you're okay!

Keeping,thats the best modus operandi!
I wish i was that cool,i probably would have done sumthing very dumb and regretted when too late.I will remember you next time i get royally steaming at sumone.
Wish you the Best,great that it didnt go even worse!!!
Mo

aha, you're too kind (y)
always glad to help and yeah, don't let the assholes get you into shitty situations
you too pal! take caree

p.s.: and thanks to everyone else who took the time to read my post really cathartic to put it into words and you're respomses have been really helpful and inspiring for me.
one last time:
fuck fent

☾༼ ༎ຶ ෴ ༎ຶ༽​

 

[fightingthetoot]

Fent is crazy. Thankfully I haven't came across it yet in smack, well I dont think I have. All the west of scotlands gear is mostly shite, unless you can get to it before its bashed too fuck, because at the end of the day it isn't junkies that bash it, its people who do it for profits, and they dont care that it is shite it still sells, sadly. Though the small few who do put decent gear out actually sell most I would say.

I haven't been on here for time!! 4/5 months I would say, and in that time I cleaned myself up because I got myself in a mess after jail, got a damn benzo habit, which was worse than a smack habit, but I had one of them too. I ended on settling down on 40ml of mess after like a week or so, but the benzo withdrawal was much longer, easy worse than an opiate withdrawal, not that any them in anyway pleasant, yet again I learned things the hard way. But, for 2 month ish I didn't touch nowt, part from my weed which isn't a problem in anyway just benefits my life, but a few weeks ago I justified it to myself, because I dont drink, or do anything, that it would be ok to use on a saturday so for so many weeks thats what I have done, but I haven't even over enjoyed it. Probs doing it more down to boredom. I know within in myself I wont ever use everyday again, not a chance just brings misery, leaves you skint/in debt even though that shouldn't be the case, cant do nowt with a junk habit. But can't even tear myself completely away yet, even when I done 15 weeks clean always felt I was missing something, which I am not. I do like the toot on a saturday if its good gear but not being update on shit I got burned twice and I was raging lol but last few weeks got in touch with an old mate, always get good gear, and now no diazepam I need the gear to be good for it to be worth it, the way I see it my mates spend 40 quid on a gram, of shit that barley lasts an hour, for the same money I can be smashed, as long as its not every day its not a problem - thats what I am telling myself anyway. My life is together, I am thinking straight again , looking it, and earning money again, and not buying drugs with my monies.

The quality of gear on the whole is shit. You can get good stuff, but most bag men sell total bash, nobody wants a tenner bag anymore because a tenner bag will do shit for you, I am one of the new gen of smackhead, last 5 year. I have been told I haven't really tried good gear, obviously that is bullshit because I started out with smack in the role of supplier, we mixed down our own gear and went I started dabbling I never tried the mixed gear, and thats why I know people bashing the gear is the reason that it is shit when we used to get it many a times the half brick/full would have arabic writing on it and shit, it comes here still good its then what happens here that ruins it.Not worth having a habit, not worth people looking down on you, because regardless of anything, thats what people will do, talk behind your back. Not do it to your face but it will happen.

I have been about that life style for 5 year, and with everything else I couldn't take advice, that getting involved would bring me nothing but misery, and you know what?? it has brung nothing but misery, I learned the hard way.

Hope everyone in the struggle finds peace.

 

[F.U.B.A.R.]

Good to hear from you again FTT, sounds like you've come to the edge of the precipice where you either choose to do nothing and get swept over the edge, or you cling on for dear life and slowly claw your way back to the top of the scree slope...

But even if you do make it back up, just the slightest slip can send you tumbling back down with so much momentum that you're going over baby...

 

[da man]

good food will run dark brown, if its red/ orange it shit. and harsh on your throat the first line u will be coughing your guts up before u make it halfway down the jimmy.

 

[fightingthetoot]

Good to hear from you again FTT, sounds like you've come to the edge of the precipice where you either choose to do nothing and get swept over the edge, or you cling on for dear life and slowly claw your way back to the top of the scree slope...

But even if you do make it back up, just the slightest slip can send you tumbling back down with so much momentum that you're going over baby...

I feel like I am just about getting up the hill, it is possible to trip, and end up further down than I started, but I just feel at ease with it now. I have used since its been ok but I dont wake up with the urge the next day to use, when before that what I done, used again the next day, next day and so forth. But I have realized the hard way, FUCK THAT! I dont feel the need for even benzos now am at peace just now if it lasts that another thing but its the best I have felt in time. I am smoking some amount of green just now. Which aint even bad.