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Opioids Who wants to hear a true story that may convince you to never try opiates?

Bomb319

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I had been prescribed 100 Percocets per month for awhile, and I fell in love with them. But the end of my life as I knew it came as soon as I met a guy who could sell them to me (among other, even stronger opioids) whenever I wanted. I've been on methadone maintenance for several years now, and haven't used any drugs or alcohol in over a year. I suppose you could say that I'm doing much better - and I am. Yet I feel as though a part of me died - a part I can never get back, no matter what actions I take, or how much time passes. Sadly, this story is only one of the torturous experiences I have had while enslaved by the most addictive drug known to man. However, it is one that stands out clearly in my mind because of the sheer contrast between what was, and what should have been. I really hope it might even convince one or two people to stay away from this beast of a drug, but I admit that I am retelling this story primarily for your interest/entertainment.

Several years ago, I was dealing with a brutal Dilaudid habit. Shooting 10-15 or more 8mg strength pills per day intravenously was par for the course (save for the many interim periods of sheer, unmitigated hell. Withdrawal from hydromorphone is pretty much the worst, most intense opioid withdrawal possible because of the extremely short half-life of hydromorphone and the rapid route of administration. True, if there is any sort of silver lining to be found here, it is in the fact that symptoms are unbearable, but are also generally of a shorter duration than those from most other opiates and opioids with longer half-lives. Still, for me that just meant I had to experience more periods of concentrated agony than I would with dope. This story describes one of the worst of these episodes; I hope it offers just a little bit of insight to those who may not yet have felt on your backs the claws of this particular monkey.

I love travelling more than anything; it was a dream of mine to go on a trip to Hawaii ever since I was a little kid. I finally got my wish a few years ago in February, my mom having saved up enough to take me there. My uncle even had connections that enabled us to get a suite at the Sheraton Waikiki - in a gorgeous upper-level ocean view room right on the main drag (Kalakaua). There was also a FREE BUFFET just upstairs in the penthouse suite that had delectable prime rib, eggs, meats, three-tiered trays of fruit platters and even chicken wings. Not only that, but the walls were almost ALL GLASS, treating one to a panoramic view of Honolulu and its beaches set along the sparkling clear, blue Pacific ocean from way high up. Corals and even sea turtles were easily visible all around the shallow, turquoise waters.

Because of this hideous beast of a drug, I spent this would-be incredible trip alone in my hotel room, heavy curtains drawn for darkness. I could not eat a single bite from the buffets, despite some part of my brain containing the old me, like a distant echo, telling me how good it looked. But a typical day in paradise for me mostly included running back and forth to the toilet to heave, finding excuses to tell my mom (with whom I travelled) why I had to do what I was doing...even then, I felt so bad for her. She has been so incredibly good to me - a hell of a lot more so than what I deserve....it's indescribable. The day we arrived, I was starting to go through ever-worsening withdrawal. I had last shot up at home almost right before leaving for the airport. But hydromorphone has an uncommonly short half-life of about seven hours, and I tend to metabolize narcotics very quickly. Upon landing, I was pouring sweat and trying my best not to throw up all over the other passengers. I went through a fair bit of mental and physical agony while waiting for the baggage which seemed as if it would never arrive. It was, of course, delayed, and I found myself having to come up with yet another excuse to dive into the suitcase, grab and attempt to conceal my hidden gear, and leave my mom waiting as I ran for the nearest men's washroom where I had to shoot up with the cleanest toilet water I could find - not being able to use the sinks because there were people in there constantly, and I had no container.

As if that weren't enough to win the rock-bottom award, I had to sit on the shitter listening to everyone mere feet away from me, no doubt smelling my lighter and heading off to report me. When I crushed up my beloved Dillies, got it in the syringe and was ready to hit.....nothing. No veins, no hits anywhere, mom calling my name into the bathroom, wondering where I was, and puke practically dribbling out of my mouth as that surge of torture and frustration hit me hard - wanting desperately to get that sweet liquid into my veins, knowing that it was the only thing in the world in that moment which would end my suffering. I was desperate to simply be able to enjoy my holiday with the beauty of Hawaii, the love from my family, and the spirit of adventure laid out before me, but unachievable. My arms both dripping with blood and my eyes with tears, I finally got my shot.

And I enjoyed it so much, I forgot about the hell I went through five minutes later. Yet it was only a few hours later when the anxiety of knowing what was coming began to build inside me again. I was going to be forced to repeat everything all over again - and I only had one or two pills left, and was on a seven day trip with no drug connections, and no disposable income.

THAT is where opiates - truly the work of the Devil - will eventually take you. I will never be able to fully earn back the trust of my family. I have many scars - both physical and mental - that can never be healed, but only concealed. Still, I consider myself to be extremely lucky to be alive; for at my worst, I was literally destroying my body and soul - injecting cocaine and heroin dozens of times per day as well, and abusing pretty much anything I could get my hands on, but only if I was already high on some sort of opiate - far and away my favorite substance, even now after everything it has done to me. I will always both cherish and despise it, which is something that I will have to deal with forever because my brain will simply not let me forget. I can only try to learn from what I've done. I truly hope that anybody else who finds themselves in my position is able to get help early on, before being ensnared by its evil, insidious power forever.
 
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You write a powerful story, thank you for that. I lived in Hawaii in 2009 in Waianae, I know what you mean, it was paradise to me.
 
Moral of the story: If you're an idiot, don't use drugs.
 
I hate to say it but I don't think anyone who is seriously considering trying opiate drugs is every swayed by these kinds of stories. It could be the most heartwrenching, dark & torturous road-through-hell saga imaginable and people are still going to freely choose to take that first high regardless. People just stop caring about themselves or they think it won't happen to them or they think that the endpoint of their addiction will just be a fling with pills & won't eventually culminate in IV dope
 
Really I think crazy doom and gloom drug stories really only resonate strongly amongst people who have suffered from an addiction & can relate to the mindset being talked about. Little Timmy who is just going to pop his first couple percocets really has no way to truly understand & relate to being in a situation where you're slamming dilaudid in the back of a parked car somewhere, LOL
 
plus some people can use socially in moderation without problems, we then maybe believe that exact thought--it wont be us--but it really could be. and no matter what substances one tries, if they have that predisposition, over time, "you arent high, youre addicted." always trying to achieve that remarkable first time feeling, but trust us--you will slowly find yourself using several times a day. and your body gets sick of it
 
I'm not insulting him just to troll his topic but to remind him that his problems were avoidable with a little wit and situational awareness. Read what I have to say:

Many people criticize the fact that drug users isolate themselves from their friends, family and society in general, and describe the behavior as a symptom of addiction. Guess what folks, isolating yourself from family and society when using drugs is not a symptom, it is actually the most logical and the safest option in store for you if you choose to go down this path. It is important, for your safety, to surround yourself by people who understand what you're doing, who know what you're going through and what your needs are, like specialists in rehabs.

Family and society can get you killed because they don't understand what you're doing, they have no expertise nor certain knowledge and, by treating you as a sober person, they put you in harm's way in various ways. Taking you on a trip to a foreign country is the best example of putting you in harms way. You could get sick and have to pay your hospital stay out of your pocket, you could get arrested for drug use/possession and sentenced to death in some countries, I mean...like...do you realize your mistake?

Your mistake is using opioids...ok...debatable...but your worst mistake is doing it inside your family while trying to appear normal. IT DOES NOT WORK AND CAN GET YOU KILLED. Your family can get you killed because:

- they deny you access to clean and safe drug administration and prevent you from safely storing your drugs, away from heat, light and humidity;
- they prevent you from taking corrective action such as re-dosing, administering antidotes and various medications to respond to adverse effects;
- they expose you to physical threats such as hot/cold temperatures, physical effort, law enforcement, through trips and other unsuitable conditions;
- they apply time constraints to your drug usage, such as, you can only dose amphetamines at night so you can be in family during daytime;

I said it 100x, it's hard to be a part-time drug user, and very dangerous. Drug use is a full time job. There should be no other job, no family and no distractions. Your focus has to be there because it is very dangerous. You can't shoot Dilaudid while your mom yells at you to clean the dishes...because a moment of inattention and you're done. And she won't even know what's wrong with you, like, she won't know what to tell the emergency respondents. You're lucky to be alive.

It is not, I'm isolating myself from people because I'm in the throws of addiction, it's more like, I need to do it because "people" is a fucking distraction. Society does not accommodate your life. Society has plenty of accomodations for handicapped people, but, when you're using opioids, you're 10x more handicapped and require 10x more accomodations. You don't belong on an airplane on a trip to the Bahamas. You need to learn to accomodate yourself, or forget drugs.
 
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OP thanks for the story. I've been clean from opiates but it's been 15 years and honestly though I only use kratom at the moment, I never wish to discontinue opiates. I actually am looking for a Suboxone doctor. I want to be off every day for the rest of my life. The days I don't have anything, I'll just suffer through with the one hope and reasonable certainty that I can alleviate my very real pains next pay day.

I have a life outside of this shit- but I don't have the ability or resources -social, financial, physiological,psychological or otherwise- to have any sort of quality existence that isn't full of complete misery without these particular chemical "shackles" administered before I get up to go off and do life. If they are not there as reinforcement, I am at home shackled another way. My point is I am shackeled either way, so I mite as well embrace my medicine of choice. I use very moderate amounts of kratom or the equivalent and when or if I find something stronger I never go outside of the Oral route of administration.

Sure, If "intervention" would give me a bed at a quality rehab a thousand miles away and six months of Sober Living after I mite be able to live life without the use of chemicals but that is not something that is going to happen. This is not completely removed from my table of options, but I fucking hate the utter bullshit that goes on at Twelve Step meetings. The times I have gotten clean, I learned that NA can be harmful to your growth.

Thanks for the very valid contrast to the OP Ksa
 
OP, this is the bluelight "other drugs" forum. Most people on this forum have already tried opiates.
 
What an ignorant, idiotic and down right disgusting comment.

Do you truly think addiction only effects 'idiots'?

Doesn't make sense to me either, saying people it only effects stupid people is just ridiculous, some of us just accept the fact that there will be consequences and weigh up the benefits, if i'm high for a full year and not an anxious wreck i'll gladly take that week or so of withdrawals at the end of it, the majority of addicts i know are smart people, just a lot of them don't have friends or have social anxiety so turn to drugs, it happens to anyone, a stupid person certainly wouldn't be on here, a harm reduction forum, harm reduction is a smart choice, you just have to look at the amount of smart people on these forums in comparison to the dimwits, drug forums seem to be the only place i don't feel like i'm surrounded by darwin award contenders honestly. Of course you get the select few like this commentor but it's rare in comparison to the thoughtful intelligent posts i see which far outweigh the silliness especially on this forum.
 
What an ignorant, idiotic and down right disgusting comment.

Do you truly think addiction only effects 'idiots'?

No, I think addiction can affect everybody and everybody can become addicted regardless of IQ.

However, only an idiot would agree to travel with his parents in a foreign country while addicted to opioids.
 
Oh yeah I didn't read that far. Why would you go traveling without any supply? Actually a similar thing happened to me where I went to see my aunt while withdrawing from heroin, worst visit ever. But I didn't go in expecting that to happen, basically I was supposed to score the night before I left but ending up falling asleep and missing my dealer's call. Then the next morning my dealer was delayed and told me he would not be able to get to me until past when I had to leave for my flight. I still, I wasn't too worried because I had plenty of suboxone and that had always worked for me in the past so I just figured ok I might feel a little lousy for the first couple of days but not bad enough to ruin my trip and I went anyway.

What I didn't count on, was that my habit had gotten so bad that the suboxone would not hold me. Even on 3 strips I was still sick as a dog and had to make excuses for why I did not want to go anywhere or do anything on that vacation. I only started feeling well on the sub a couple days before it was time to go home. I learned a few lessons from that, 1) never let your habit get so bad that no amount of sub will put a dent in your withdrawals and 2) never go on a trip unless you're sure you've got what you need to get you through beforehand.
 
I'll tell you how I do for family and business trips:

1) I make sure everything I take with me is under prescription and that contact information of the doctor who prescribed it is immediately available (in my wallet).
2) The pills follow me everywhere, and are placed in a 7 day plastic container in the pocket of my jacket. ALL pills are on me at all times.
3) I make sure the container has the following:

- Dexedrine, codeine and guanfacine (medication)
- Gravol (anti-nausea, just in case medication)
- Aspirin and Advil (anti-inflamatory, just in case medication)
- Ranitidine HCl (proton pump inhibitor, just in case medication)
- beta lactam antibiotic (just in case medication)
- tamiflu (just in case medication)

Then you need to be somewhat of a doctor. If you experience flu symptoms and you have not consumed any opioids, then it's probably flu. Like, you need to distinguish drug induced side effects from potentially dangerous diseases that you may contract while on your trip. Unless the symptoms are drug induced, opioids should not be used to correct them!

Shortly put, you need a brain.
 
No, I think addiction can affect everybody and everybody can become addicted regardless of IQ.

However, only an idiot would agree to travel with his parents in a foreign country while addicted to opioids.

With all due respect, you are in no position to judge me without knowing the whole story. First of all, nobody on earth wakes up one day and decides to become an addict. That should not need to be said at all. Second, I didn't begin abusing OR using opiates by choice. It all started when my family doctor game me 100 Percocets per MONTH for my frequent migraines. I've tried so many drugs to treat them, I didn't know any better. There I was at 24 without having used drugs in my life (save for a handful of times I smoked pot) nor did I have any interest in doing so. Even so, it took me over 3 years to get to the point where I got cut off and was forced to obtain them from the street. Once I found a connect, it was all over.

As far as the trip to Hawaii goes...as I said, it was a family vacation. I didn't book it, and I certainly wasn't going to tell my mom to cancel it and ruin it for us both - especially since she didn't know of my addiction at the time. Still, that doesn't mean that I was ever careless or distracted when using. Despite a total of literally thousands of injections, I have never shared a needle in my life, always rinse them well and wash first, do my best to ensure I'm in the vein, etc. Besides, while I was using at that point, I was still in very heavy denial as to what would happen when I stopped. I did bring Dilaudid with me planning on making them last for the trip, preventing all that shit from happening. I did not admit to myself that I would just end up blowing through them in a day or two anyway. Sure, that was a dumb move, but it's the move of an addict which is what I was. Not only that, I had also convinced myself that if (when) I DID run out, the withdrawal wouldn't be so bad. You see, I actually HAD prepared for going on this trip despite believing that I would have enough left to last for its duration. I had tapered down to one pill per day. In the 3 weeks prior, I had been using 30-40. Yup, that's 240-320 mg of hydromorphone. It has a very short half life and makes me sick very quickly if I don't re-dose after about 6 or 7 hours. I had not been an addict long enough to know that quitting cold turkey after being used to shooting a single pill would end up being just as bad as when I was using a whole shitload of them.

So I would appreciate it if you were less judgemental; we ARE in a forum devoted to addicts here. I freely admit that my decisions and actions as an addict - including what took place on this trip - were stupid, yet they were nonetheless the sort of decisions addicts make. I'm not proud of it, but I did it. Yet the situation was absolutely nothing like how you were painting me - accidentally running out, not cancelling the trip, not being prepared for it, etc. The vacation was booked by my mom a long time ago, we had non-refundable plane tickets and a hotel, and most importantly, I did not realize there would be any problem whatsoever because I had begun tapering for several days when I knew I couldn't afford to buy a lot more to bring with me. In addition, as I knew that the withdrawal period of hydromorphone is relatively short, I had thought that even if I did still experience some sickness if I ran out, at the very least it wouldn't be enough to significantly affect my vacation and prevent me from doing anything. As it happens, it did, and that's where this story comes from. Sure, in retrospect it was a mistake to go, but that certainly doesn't mean I'm the "idiot" you claim me to be.

You also do not use needle drugs regularly according to your earlier post where you list all the oral meds you take with you and how you do it - proving "how smart you are". Well if you're that smart, you would know that IV drug use - especially using a powerful opioid like hydromorphone, is absolutely not in the same league, and usually causes a much more serious addiction and also requires material, methods and time.
 
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Why the fuck would you go on a trip like that if you're gonna be dope sick?

Also, I found it strange you emphasized chicken wings at the buffet lol... as if it's some delicacy rather than disposable piece of chicken they need to drown in BBQ sauce to make edible.

But alas yeah opiates are brutal.
 
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I do find it odd that you knew you were going to be leaving and we're not prepared in someway to enjoy your trip. Hopefully your story keeps one kid away from opiates, but if they are here on BL I would think they are already using or planning on using. Your story dosent make me feel better as I already use opiates due to being a CPP. These stories actually keep me in check so thanks for sharing.
 
I hate to say it but I don't think anyone who is seriously considering trying opiate drugs is every swayed by these kinds of stories. It could be the most heartwrenching, dark & torturous road-through-hell saga imaginable and people are still going to freely choose to take that first high regardless. People just stop caring about themselves or they think it won't happen to them or they think that the endpoint of their addiction will just be a fling with pills & won't eventually culminate in IV dope


I agree, also, a lot of opiate users are self medicating and if someone is in desperate pain (mental or physical) they'll do anything to get rid of it.

Still, OP, that was a powerful story and I'm sorry that you went through all that suffering. Hopefully it does sway some people from getting into opioids, like kids who just want to get high recreationally.
 
sorry to be a party pooper bit it has been scientifically proven that tobbaco not opium is the MOST addictive drug known to man
 
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