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    Novel stimulant Ephylone (N-Ethyl-Pentylone, βk-Ethyl-K, βk-EBDP) 
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    Parent compounds: EBDP and Pentylone.
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    Wasn't Pentylone really weak compared to Pentedrone?
    Though the N-Ethyl is supposed to significantly add to the potency of Buphedrone and Hexedrone at least, so maybe a little steric bulk on the nitrogen can turn this into a decent NDRI ā la MDPV.
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    I read disappointing results about Pentylone too, which is kinda weird though. For the pyrrolidinos (a-PVP/MDPV) the MD makes barely any difference.

    No idea if the N-ethyl is helping.
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    I'm waiting on a small sample from this within days (I hope not weeks), to write this as soon as I have tested it in my lab ....
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    Any update?
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    It must have killed poor acab666.
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    Anyone else tried this compound?
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    Any info on this , this stuff just pop up in my area

    http://www.ecstasydata.org/view.php?id=4364&mobile=1
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    Quote Originally Posted by stayhealthy970 View Post
    Any info on this , this stuff just pop up in my area http://www.ecstasydata.org/view.php?id=4364&mobile=1
    sweet ty bumpin thread
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    Are there any other threads on this one? I thought there'd be more information and reports by now.

    There's a scalemic version of this available that is really, really good. Normally I hate stims.
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    ^ There is quite an expanse of production side introduction of this but not much direct information on the other side. One can only speculate on such reports here and there without being able to verify that it's the actual substance.
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    Any update on this? I see that it is becoming more available, yet i cannot find a solid report anywhere, not even one shooting it down. I have gathered from some sources that it is supposed to be an ethylone replacement, yet i think the name is the only thing that will be similar I believe that might just be a marketing deal. And as long as it has been available i believe if it were actually similar to ethylone someone would have raved about it by now. So my friend thinks he will wait on ordering this as even dosage info is still hard to find as well. Any updates would be great
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    The alpha-(n)propylaminopentane structure might give it interesting properties. Looks like an MDO-derivative of PPAP, the ethylone homolog of it.

    I remember someone posting here that PPAP itself (phenyl-n-propylaminopentane) was really odd in some way, although they didn't give further details, when combined with a DARI. And since the benzofuran analog of PPAP, BPAP is active in the same unusual way (increased monoamine release upon stimulation but without direct activation of transmitter release, that is to say, increased exocytosis without inducing either transporter blockade or direct releaser activity, so as to cause a phasic rather than tonic amplification of impulse propagation)

    If it fails on its own, might be interesting paired with one of the phenidates, coke, etc.
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    Any news on this? Dosage etc?
    EDIT: ecsta data reports caps around 150mg
    Last edited by LaGaFāNi; 20-04-2017 at 02:34.
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    *bump*
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    Got myself some grams on the way, will edit and post TR when I receive (shouldn't take long anymore).
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    No scale, but a tooth-pick sized line was a good way to potentiate speed, and got me out of the MDMA comedown I still was in since this week-end.
    Also gave it a test IV, mixed in 30% BK-EPDB with 70% speed; Rush is good, not feeling overstimulated but kept it in the low range, evolves into a more straight-stim feeling over the next hour, with sweating and some nausea that's normally absent with just speed.
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    Decided to give it a go on it's own;
    IV'd what could be anywhere from 20 to 50MG - (very fine) crushed crystals in powder form took up 10 units in a 1ML syringe before adding water (removed plunger to fill) , and that with no compression.
    Took 2-3 minutes to dissolve entirely in 1ML.
    There is a slight rush, and the high is quite tweaked, clear-headed, but bears the same enthousiasm one would seek with MDMA - I'd say stimulation wise what I dosed is comparable to +-150mg MDMA, and enthousiasm wise it's more like 75mg MDMA. I can't compare it to meth but in comparison to speed it's "sharper" qua headspace and has a more tweaky feeling, but the rush felt seconds following administration isn't as pronounced - and compulsive redosing is defo a one-way ticket to stim-hell (unless you've got an arsenal of alpha/beta blockers, hypotensives, vasodilators and anxiolytics).

    Around T+90min I developped a bellringer that slowly faded over 15min. The high is (IMO) very enjoyable, and through this ROA lasts about 150-180min.
    Big downside is the following vasoconstriction (becomes -very- pronounced after the 3H mark) - it litterally grabs you by the balls -, heartrate is high but pulse is weak, there is agitation that in my case lasted a good 5 hours, and the kidneys clearly are inactive - no pee production for 7 hours after consumption of 2L fluids and 4 units alcohol for diuretic effects and vasodilation. In my case there also was lots of tension in the muscles (forearms, shoulders and lower back).

    I do not recommend redosing more than once with this one, and IME it should be threated with respect, as the high is very enjoyable (IMO) but trying to hold onto it gives places to side-effects too pronounced to just mess around with it.

    If you intend to sell this as something else, don't be surprised if the cops knock at your door because some kid OD'd after a dose that would've been forgiving with MDMA.


    Edit: 100mg to 50mg
    Last edited by LaGaFāNi; 31-05-2017 at 19:49.
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    Please get a scale (it's just $20), eyeballing "20-100mg" can easily end in hospitalisation or even death
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    I consider myself experienced enough to know what I'm doing, I already knew +- what amount of powder was needed for effects via nasal admin.
    Also I think giving people an idea of how much powder I used by saying it fitted 1/10 of a ML container can be more useful for those who do not possess a scale.
    And all different batches are of the same salt and purity shouldn't vary by more than 2-3% from best to worst, so I suppose that if crushed as fine as possible, no matter the batch it will always be very close to what I dosed if the same measring method is used - (maybe 5mg max variation?).

    The main reason I don't buy a mg scale is that I do not use drugs that could be fatal if dosed incorrectly in the mg range; If I do get one I'll update the exact weight I dosed.

    I'll edit the 100mg to 50mg, seems more realistic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaGaFāNi View Post
    I consider myself experienced enough to know what I'm doing, I already knew +- what amount of powder was needed for effects via nasal admin.
    Also I think giving people an idea of how much powder I used by saying it fitted 1/10 of a ML container can be more useful for those who do not possess a scale.
    And all different batches are of the same salt and purity shouldn't vary by more than 2-3% from best to worst, so I suppose that if crushed as fine as possible, no matter the batch it will always be very close to what I dosed if the same measring method is used - (maybe 5mg max variation?).

    The main reason I don't buy a mg scale is that I do not use drugs that could be fatal if dosed incorrectly in the mg range; If I do get one I'll update the exact weight I dosed.

    I'll edit the 100mg to 50mg, seems more realistic.
    That's all fine and dandy, but the issue with it being so compulsive, you may be able to control yourself from redosing larger and larger amounts because you have a clear idea of the dose in relation to effects/safety. But you literally described backloading and IV'ing a potent psychostimulant (yours may be pure but think if someone does this with a cut batch and no tolerance, redoing over and over larger amounts thinking their tolerance is insane, and then getting some actual fire and backloading some like huge amount they think they need to catch the rush - might not be such a good outcome)

    For these reasons, the extra steps to taking care to weigh and record specific dosages, filtering etc is the way that's preferable to recommend (at least on this site). Easy to forget we are a harm reduction forum first and foremost. Think about it though, I mean don't get me wrong ive done the same thing you described countless times with various stimulants, but it really has the potential to fuck ones mental state up not to mention the possibility of cardiac/respiratory issus in susceptible individuals... I dunno, that's the reason I think the guy above you responded in the way that he did. Not to call you out because people will do what they do to catch their rush. but for others.
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    Yup whatever, I think HR was done as good as it could've been given the info I can gather out of my experience.
    You say some people might get cut batches then turn to pure stuff; first of all cut stuff they'll need more than what I described, for them it'll be a hint; and if they do run into trouble because of higher purity that won't be caused by my post but because of their supplier.
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