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pharmakos said:
that's mostly just a myth taught to us to hide the truth...
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Same here of course. The "mother of all parliaments" unfortunately hasn't changed since it gave birth a few centuries ago. As for politicians and popularity, in the UK at least they're more concerned about keeping the print media on their side than actually listening to any of their advisors.

Oh, and on the subject of DOx, I'm totally with Xorkoth in that DOC is by far the best, although I've only tried DOC and DOM. I would happily take DOC any time. The length of the trip is both a boon and a pain. I've found that 4mg is the perfect dose for a fully immersed ride. I haven't taken LSD for over twenty years, but I have some in my freezer which I will get round to tasting at some point to refresh my memory. I loved it as a reckless teenager and I'm sure my opinion won't have changed much in that time even though my reasons for taking it will be very different.
Before then I've got to trial my 1P-LSD and AL-LAD though, first separately and then in combination. So that'll mean a few more weeks before reacquainting myself with Mr. Cid...
 
Yeah I'm guessing I got something besides DOC since I experienced a lot of negative shit that people say is more common with the other DOX's. Sounds like I'll have to grab some when I get the chance, thanks for sharing your opinions!

I had to laugh when someone said the US values liberty and privacy. Most citizens are happy to give these things up in the name of fear. Liberty and privacy are getting torn to shreds more and more every single day. I'm probably going to move soon because it is so disgusting. Any attempts at protest are met with insane brute force tactics, SWAT teams, LRAD (sound cannon), agent provocateurs.. It's a shit show here. Don't believe the hype, it's been a police state for a long time. Not sure if the UK is better or worse, seems like a hell of a police/surveillance state over there too.
 
Bluuberry said:
I'm probably going to move soon because it is so disgusting. Any attempts at protest are met with insane brute force tactics, SWAT teams, LRAD (sound cannon), agent provocateurs.. It's a shit show here.
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Good luck finding somewhere where that doesn't happen :/
In south america is the same, we go to the streets to fight for our rights only to get out asses destroyed by the brutal police repression. And every year is the same story, months and months of protests for a couple of electoral promises and then nothing happens.

I do have hope for a better world, but seems like this state of constant struggle is a condition of living in society.
 
Damn I was not hoping to hear that about South America. :( Feels bad man. Sorry to hear that. I don't know where to go, I'm gonna just have to dip out of this reality and hit the astral grid.
 
I watched a documentary last night about the life and work of Shulgin. It was legit! They detailed the time in 67 or 8 when DOM was distributed as 'STP' and the overdosed the press and loads of people ended up being hospitalized from the intense effects.
I have yet to try a DO(x), but after that story I am more intrigued than ecer
 
Yeah the whole world is really in a tight spot regarding personal privacy and liberty. The war on drugs royally screws it up. In the US unless your moderately lucky or have good evidence(aka a good lawyer+good evidence)it's very possible the police could and would use illegal tactics to get what they want. Obviously not all cops are crooked but some value getting drugs out of the way much more so then doing things in the proper manners. You know illegal search and seizure, using the whole iffy "circumstantial evidence" bit. "So can I search your car?", "Sure if you get a warrant..", "Oh well...I think I'm smelling some MJ so I'm going to just go ahead and search.", sort of shit. A couple years ago there was a large debacle where the NYPD admitted to basically doing illegal street patdowns to up the seizure numbers for drugs. I'm not sure but I think they even admitted to planting some evidence at times to get their arrest numbers up.

As far as drug tests goes, I think if your clearly intoxicated at work and screwing up, sure then have a talk with said employee to see what's up. If their clearly suspect on using drugs, then test them! Why though would you test and fire employees who are performing their jobs well and causing no problems? It can also perpetuate problems in a similar style as getting drug charges against you where you can have that stain that will cause permanent discrimination against the person because of it. I simply can't stand how ignorant and fearful people are when it comes to drugs. Most people act as if people have been using and abusing what's available to them since the dawn of chemistry or finding plants that contain psychoactive chemicals. Why perpuate a problem that will never go away out of fear? Although at leadt in certain public opinion views on drug abuse is getting better but in a sense it's similar to racism of yesteryear. Where we feared what we didn't know and for some crazy reason thought we needed to control. I just don't get why we don't give up on persecuting drugs users while wasting billions annually instead of putting it into rehabilitation for those who want to get help...

I mean you read news articles about US politicians all the time and how even though they don't have the thought stances others do and would like reform, their to scared to stand up, and say so out of fear that they won't be reelected because of it. So instead we allow a broken cycle to continue despite all the evidence that things clearly aren't how they were shown to be out of ignorant fear. So we allow many to suffer, the black market to make profits they would likely never see especially in such easy abunace again, and we marginalize many people who would otherwise be participating in normal society if they could. Yet they don't allow proper research to be done and like Solipsis said, even if they do they won't release the positive notes out anyway.

DOx's are really nice. If I need something I know I can function on DOC is my first choice. It has such level effects on the all the spectrums. Really great stuff. As long as the dose isn't heroic I can really do most anything, obviously though there's ones better suited to certain situations....
 
I'm happy to have stirred some debate on liberties! To paraphrase Franklin "He who would give up a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither". I quoted that a lot in the 9/11 aftermath. Coming from Belfast it was always clear to me that security clampdown always cause more problems than they solve. The best recruitment campaign the IRA ever had was British soldiers shooting dead 14 unarmed people. They were queueing round the block to join up after that! This followed the imposition of internment which involved the imprisonment of suspected terrorists without trial. Sounds familiar....

Back on the topic of drugs, I'm totally against companies having any say over my private life. To me, what I do in my own time is my business and nobody else's. OK, drugs are illegal, but it's not up to companies to police the law (ignoring as they are many laws which relate to them). Unless, as Xorkoth mentions, someone is clearly intoxicated or their job requires sobriety then to me it is irrelevant.
 
Right, I mean if someone is driving a school bus, they really shouldn't be high (though even then, drug testing will get you for weed if you smoked within a week or even longer). But why does the guy flipping burgers need to be clean from any traces of drugs? Or most anyone else?

Our old weed dealer got really fucked by the police. He was the best, a really, really nice guy. He didn't even do drugs, he sold weed only to help support his family and fund his projects. He started and ran a nonprofit that provided services for underprivileged kids and was involved in other positive societal activities. Well, someone he knew got busted and turned rat. Even though my friend only sold weed, the cops told the rat to say he wanted xanax and to try to "do him a favor" and get him 1000 bars. My friend was like, okay well, I know someone, I'll help you out. When he went to deliver, 2 undercover cops dressed in street clothes pounced on him and started slamming him against the car. he figured he was getting robbed so he punched one of them in the face and then they revealed they were cops and arrested him. At first they charged him with assaulting an officer, selling weed, and selling Xanax. Eventually they dropped the assault and the weed but charged him with the xanax. So they set him up, entrapment-style, and then dismissed what he actually was doing, which I guess they didn't care so much about.

At his trial, a bunch of people came and testified to why he shouldn't be in jail and what a good kid he is (oh yeah, he was only 20), and told about the nonprofit and stuff. The judge was like, sorry, mandatory minimum, 4 years in prison. And guess what, he's black. Mandatory minimum my ass... I guarantee I could find some 20 year old white kids who they went a lot easier on.
 
yeah they can always charge him with a lesser crime in order to circumvent the mandatory minimum.

if only he was a rich white boy rapist, then he'd only get 6 months!
 
^That's what's really fucked. Someone can be a peaceful pot dealer and do years behind bars, while a frat daddy can violate every orifice of an innocent girls body and get off the charges. I mean, wtf...
 
Eh not everyone can afford to pay a lawyer to go to trial... And using a public defender is scary because who knows if they really want to defend you or not, or if they're in cahoots with their co-worker the prosecutor.
 
pharmakos said:
Eh not everyone can afford to pay a lawyer to go to trial... And using a public defender is scary because who knows if they really want to defend you or not, or if they're in cahoots with their co-worker the prosecutor.
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Yeah some of them clearly give two fucks less...
 
has anyone tried DXM + LSD before? if so, what were your dxm doses and how was it?
 
I have... Best way to do the combo is to take one, then take the other on the comedown of the first. Taking them at the same time tends to be kind of a dud (for me at least).
 
i was thinking acid first and DXM at the 4th hour so the peak is almost over and will synergize well with the DXM.

i suppose that's what you were suggesting. i certainly wouldn't want to get overwhelmed. with my stash of benzos it's easy to convince myself to take them to abort trip - or at least that's what i learned this weekend with an attempted jedi flip.

the overwhelm just becomes a strange state of dysphoria and i have to loop my mind back to enjoy the feeling.

acid fucks with me. i've ridden out acid trips that a joint of gorilla glue ruined for me by holding onto my arm the entire time thinking i was gonna lose it.

you would think even after you test your acid you wouldn't go on panicking about the possibility of it still being a dangerous RC lol.

i'm trying to become reborn in a certain aspect of my life and only DXM provides me with everlasting epiphanies.
 
For that reborn feeling I would recommend the other way around... Dxm first and LSD on the comedown.
 
that makes a shit-ton of sense my man. the DXM afterglow(reborn feeling) will potentiate the fuck out of the acid which will leave room for more epiphanies and euphoria =D.

i have taken your advice in the past and used DXM to dissociate myself from the manner in which i watch porn and smoke tobacco. you may not remember but you had said 'you cannot psychedelic yourself out of an addiction but you can dissociate yourself from one'.

bloody genius m8. ty ty.

i quit smoking cigarettes habitually ever since and watching porn everyday.

all the time i was thinking psychedelics changed me but DXM has affected me the most emotionally. it was my first trip.
 
DXM has humbled me a few times, I am grateful for it. It works wonders for breaking out of a pattern of addiction, I've used it twice in the past to stop pretty heavy opioid habits. You have to stay the course though, it isn't a magic bullet.

That said, I've been in DXM afterglow for the last two days and it has been nice to be both pain free and not have an overwhelming desire to take hydrocodone (I slipped). Pretty much the only time I'm ever pain free is the few days after a DXM trip. It's too bad it's so rough on my stomach. I'm curious if I could tolerate pure powder better than OTC formulations but I've never used it often enough to justify buying the stuff in bulk. My only issue with it aside from shitting liquid is the fact that it makes me stupid/slow for the week or so after a trip. I've been noticing tons of errors in my typing over the last few days that I don't normally make.
 
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