There is an old joke about sucking your own dick. I forgot how it goes exactly, and who said it. I think George Carlin. "Men wouldn't leave their own house"... not even to deal/date with women.
How many straight guys would let a guy suck them off?
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There is an old joke about sucking your own dick. I forgot how it goes exactly, and who said it. I think George Carlin. "Men wouldn't leave their own house"... not even to deal/date with women.
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That's just called being an expensive whore. Just because a guy would do something gay for a ridiculous amount of money doesn't make him gay. What you're talking about is more along the lines of some Fear Factor shit. Personally I'd rather beat the guy and take the million dollars.
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I was just thinking, in so many threesomes you here about the girls messing around with each other, but people don't go around calling them lesbian/bi really after they have done it, it was just to please the guy kinda...so say this is what would please the woman in the 3 some..see what I'm saying?? I dunno.....guys get to hung up on the whoe 'gay' thing, imo....
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What's that supposed to mean?
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PriestTheyCalledHim
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Prison is one thing since that's rape, and about power and control, or debasing someone.
But out in society if a man is having sex with men, getting sucked off by them, or going to public sex areas or cruising areas then he's not heterosexual or straight at all.
I find it really odd how a lot of gay and bisexual men need the pipe dream fantasy of being with a hetero or "straight" guy, and insist that guys who are in denial or even closeted and who identify as "straight" really are heterosexual/straight, and it's as though men who fantasize or worship hetero men like this think that there's something wrong with being out as bisexual or gay.
But even some gay and bisexual porn is this way with the whole myth of 'gay for pay' where guys who are really bisexual or gay are marketed as "straight"/hetero just to feed into the pipe dream fantasy based on internalized self-loathing, or internalized biphobia/homophobia, and this sort of marketing by the porn industry has been around for decades. It's a big myth that if you do porn, let alone gay/bisexual porn that you make more money or a lot of money since you don't.
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Not all prison sex is rape or about power and control though a lot of it is mutual and there are a lot of guys who form relationships in prison. I think people get far too hung up on the full straight / gay thing - you can't be straight if you have your cock sucked by a man, says who? Who cares? Why do we have this need to label everyone based on their sexual orientation?
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Yup. I'd agree with that. Let's see how badly I can put this.
I've never had m/m sex (let's just say oral for now) with anyone. But given the right context I know damn well I would. I've always said this identifies me as bi. But I know people I could say this too who would say I'm not bi, because of lack of any actual experience. Which is kinda strange because given another desire of mine, for crack cocaine, which I've never done (the only drug I've never done) I'm pretty fucking sure the same people wouldn't call me a pretend druggie. Because I do lots of drugs. But somehow, sex is different. Even though I do lots of sex, because I have no experience of gay sex, I'm definitely not bi according to them. But doing lots of drugs doesn't make them doubt I'd be a crack whore given the chance.
There. Explained really fucking badly. I know what I mean.
EDIT The person who brought up threesomes and men expecting lesbian behaviour from women in them while being fucked up over their own conceptions of male homosexuality if it were M/M/F has a great point too.
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This is pretty worrying as I understand your post :D. There are so many instances where a guy who would identify as straight has sex with a guy - when you get collected from gay bars, clubs by taxi drivers there not shy in asking if they fancy a quick blowjob on the way or for the fare etc. In some countries men consider themselves straight as they only top, bottom guys are considered 'gay'. Most people know about truck stops, those truckers would identify themselves as straight but don't mind getting head when there away from home for days on end etc.
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Most prison sex is about power/control, or is rape though. This includes the COs/guards that have sex with the prisoners as well. It's not like what you see in porn or read about in fictional stories. Are they healthy relationships? No.
Says pretty much every sexologist and sex study ever done. Even Kinsey never claimed this. Plus if you actually have talked to a guy that's really heterosexual you'll find out that they're not into having sex with men.
But I find the way some bisexual and gay men obsess over, and worship hetero/straight men or the idea that they've had sex with one to be silly. Or the whole "All men are secretly bisexual" myth. A lot of gay men are biphobic and think that men can't be bisexual or but are really either "gay" or "straight", or they'll claim that bisexuality is rare when it's not. 8) Or some will think that real "straight"/hetero men will go and have sex with a man when women are not around or they're on drugs and horny; but they don't claim this about gay men who are horny, drunk, or high having sex with women when there are no men available to have sex with.
Those guys can claim that they're LOL "straight" all they want but they're clearly not, and who do they think they're kidding besides themselves? I've never had a taxi driver ask me, or any of my LGBT friends if we would prostitute ourselves in order not to pay for cab fare after coming home from a gay/LGBT bar or dance club.
That's good that you realize you're bisexual StoneHappyMonday. If you want to have sex with a man it's not that difficult to find a person to do this with. No you don't have to have had sex with either the same or even opposite sexes/genders in order to be bisexual.
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From what I've been told by a female friend who went to prison for DWI, and at one point - was transferred to a county before release - so it had MALE and FEMALE areas (they did not mix).
1 - If I got trapped in the female ward of prison, I would be raped...
... uh
2 - Gay (male) prisoners are in their own section from straight male prisoners.
3 - Reason for that? Gay prisoners will rape the straight ones.
1 - If I got trapped in the female ward of prison, I would be raped...
... uh 2 - Gay (male) prisoners are in their own section from straight male prisoners.
3 - Reason for that? Gay prisoners will rape the straight ones.
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It's a well known fact... If you profess to be be 100% hetero you're secretly gay or bi with a lot of deep seeded issues and sexual frustration. 8)
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"most" prison sex is rape 8) Yeah because gay men do not go to jail, they do not offer services to get fucked (jeans around the ass etc). I' m sorry but your talking shit about something you have no idea about.
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From what I've been told by a female friend who went to prison for DWI, and at one point - was transferred to a county before release - so it had MALE and FEMALE areas (they did not mix).
1 - If I got trapped in the female ward of prison, I would be raped...
2 - Gay (male) prisoners are in their own section from straight male prisoners.
3 - Reason for that? Gay prisoners will rape the straight ones.
NONONO - we, the gay prisoners, get raped. i got put in the fag cell once in county jail, it was mostly straight guys who didn't have issues and wanted the peace. in prison, the 'gay section' is called solitary
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See, even you admit that most prison sex is rape, or not always consensual. The whole "offering services" aspect means that the sex is not consensual or there's power/abuse or coercion going on, which does happen both among prisoners, and with guards.
Prison rape doesn't just happen to men either.
Also prison rape happens in the UK and Australia, and other countries as well. Most prison rapes are not reported.
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Tossing around labels is irrelevant to this issue. Just because someone says they'd consider it, does not mean you get to re-label their orientation for them. Sexual orientation is a self-identified quality, not an externally imposed one. A big pet peeve of mine is when people have these casual sexual discussions and others feel they have the right to re-define someone else based on their responses. Fuck off, seriously.
The OP's question is entirely situational. When we talk about what we might do we're just sitting around being all logical about it. Sex isn't logical, it's instinctual. People who say they'd never do it, might end up doing it, and vice versa, regardless of what they say here.
The OP's question is entirely situational. When we talk about what we might do we're just sitting around being all logical about it. Sex isn't logical, it's instinctual. People who say they'd never do it, might end up doing it, and vice versa, regardless of what they say here.