5-MAPB - inexperienced - "THE LAME MONG"

[Sir Ron Pib]

Take 80mg and sit down for coffee; I feel it in only ten minutes rising slowly till about 40/50minutes it’s more evident, in the mean time I had some gastric effects and needed to defecate twice.
I am feeling good and sedate.
After a bath I am smiling to myself but feel somewhat couch-locked, I can imagine cuddling up but not really socialising on this stuff. It’s a state of lassitude. There is no motivation in any direction; just sort of self contained satisfaction. I cuddle my girlfriend for a bit.
1 hr 25 I’m sitting monging a bit with mild jaw clench and my eyes becoming very ‘lazy’ but the nystagmus isn’t strong.
Past two hours or note slight trippiness but soon think it has levelled off somewhat and I feel a bit more lively and with it.
Spend time composing emails to a few people then end up watching TV, my jaw is a little achey. The decline in effect is quite slow (3.45hrs) Sometime after returning from a night time walk with the dogs I take a hypnotic and wind down.

Conclusion
The total duration was 6hrs+. I could very well have taken more and maybe that would bring more to the table I’m not very impressed. It’s pleasant, but at other times I was almost bored with it and wasn’t sure what to do. I wouldn’t totally rule another go but while to a degree pleasant there is no empathy or thoughtfulness or anything to make it that worthwhile.

 

[JackARoe]

Thanks Sir Pib, recently I had gotten interested, at least intellectually, on some of the effects of the newer empathogens. I may have taken MDMA 3 times since the early 80's when it was legal, but then not much at all except if offered by a friend at a music event or something. It was genuine MDMA but at a much lower level than those pills that came out of San Marcus University Texas in 1983-4. Back then I would get a session in every two weeks and it was fine.

So that left me curious if it was worth it to revisit. But your report saved me of going all out and trying one of these. No empathy or thoughtfulness sort of killed the deal for me. I know different people can have different effects, but I have to pick sparingly these days and can't gobble up some of these goodies like someone younger and able to bounce back quicker.

I read you other report too. Thanks!

 

[Hiltoniano]

Nice report thanks for sharing, esp cuz there is such little info on these rc drugs. Lots of people take them ( I have, but got lucky and knew the exact purity and synth and all the info for safe dosing. Mostly methylone, mdpv, etiz, and mxe. All tested and verified at over 99%) but not much is known on the new and various minor but significant changes to these already unexplored (mostly) drugs. 5-mapb may be boring and not an entactogen at all. To above poster, I am
Not reccomendig research Chems in place of mdma or at all, but I will say, I have heard very good things about 5/6-apb as them basicslly being close to mda in effect and sometimes stronger, more trippy, more intense, and more euphoric. So don't let one bad apple ruin the whole batch of u know my meanin. But always stay safe, only use relied sources, and ur choice to not use rc's at all may be for the best. But there are some hidden gems amongst the menagerie of Chems for sale and most are garbage, some are toxic, and almost none have been studied. "Research chemical" implies it has research being done it's not really the case and intact is very misleading . Stay safe and have fun.. Keep the love spreading

 

[Sir Ron Pib]

5-APB I found was in a similar vein to MAPB and 6 speedier trippier; the 5/6-APB combo I can see why people like but I think most who have tried genuine MDMA would find it still misses the singular magic - it depends what you are looking for maybe, I am wanting a deep potentially helpful (to relationships/understanding) type experience - at there best the APBs seem to produce euphoria - it might be intense euphoria and you might feel well disposed to others but that isn't quite the same as genuine empathy.

 

[JBrandon]

it might be intense euphoria and you might feel well disposed to others but that isn't quite the same as genuine empathy.

Bingo. I could barely keep my pants on waiting for the APBs to come out but i was let down in the end.

At best, 6-APB and the 40/60 ratio combination of 5-APB/6-APB can come close to approximating the experience of MDA, including the debilitating comedown (for me at least). None of them is a substitute for MDMA if that specific head change is what you seek.

Euphoria, even joy, can be found in the APBs, but not the true opening of the heart, stillness of mind, and clarity of thought that can be catalyzed by MDMA.