Changa707
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Tobacco Mega thread v. 01
I think it's about time for a mega thread that is dedicated to tobacco, a plant with a long history of ethnobotanical significance. Sadly many individuals at the Cannabis forum discriminate against tobacco use, and so it is difficult to find information for people like me who using tobacco and cannabis together, but I am also interested in indigenous reasons for consuming tobacco products.
There seems to be little information on dosages/methods for consuming (alternative) tobacco admixtures intranassaly, orally, inhaled, IV, IM etc....
Many don't know that N. Americans used to consume tobacco not as a recreational substance, but rather a an empathogen.
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Given its long history, tobacco use in the United States has become a complex and heavily culturally coded activity. Today's dominantly negative image of tobacco and cigarette smoking, based on abundant scientific evidence of health hazards, has shifted dramatically from the widely-accepted sanguine portrayals of mid-twentieth-century marketing.
While tobacco is now viewed as a public health menace in industrial societies, it is considered the principal plant ally of traditional shamans throughout the Americas. Consequently, the visionary properties of unprocessed tobacco leaves are sometimes romanticized--although infrequently explored--by non-indigenous psychonauts. And yet, while the use of large doses of tobacco for ritual purposes was certainly a part of native life in North America, heavy, chronic use that might be characterized as dependency by modern standards was equally evident in some tribes.
While tobacco is now viewed as a public health menace in industrial societies, it is considered the principal plant ally of traditional shamans throughout the Americas. Consequently, the visionary properties of unprocessed tobacco leaves are sometimes romanticized--although infrequently explored--by non-indigenous psychonauts. And yet, while the use of large doses of tobacco for ritual purposes was certainly a part of native life in North America, heavy, chronic use that might be characterized as dependency by modern standards was equally evident in some tribes.
The visionary properties of unprocessed tobacco leaves are infrequently explored — by non-indigenous psychonauts....so this thread is a great chance for people to share information they have regarding the psychonauts approach to tobacco use.
Regardless of cultural context or method of administration, nicotine has its own trajectory and distinct psychoactive effects. For millions of regular smokers, the ubiquitous "smoke break" represents an interruption in the day's routine where a potent drug, with clear cognition- and mood-enhancing effects, is delivered to their brains.
The same can be said for regular tobacco chewers and cigar or pipe smokers. But once users become physically dependent, they rarely use tobacco simply for the psychoactive effects. Instead, it becomes integrated into a deeply habituated behavior laden with cultural, psychological, and pharmacological motivations that have little to do with strong changes in consciousness.
Given the pervasive stereotypes surrounding cigarette smoking and other forms of tobacco use, it can be difficult to find a meaningful way to use nicotine specifically for its consciousness-altering properties. We've collected some examples below that illustrate different approaches to tobacco and isolated nicotine, some radically removed from more common forms of use.
Source Article from Erowid. By Spoon https://www.erowid.org/chemicals/nicotine/nicotine_article1.shtml
I recall reading in an old book about Gordon Wasson that one of his students now lives in South America and has been using pharmaceutical intranasal nicotine solutions/nebulizers to achieve a very unique psychedelic expereince that was not freightening.
I believe he used something like 16 mg in one inhale. The effects would come on fast. I am really having a hard time remembering who the guy was...but I know he was a mycologist who experimented a lot with bufotenin....maybe someone here will know who im talking about? ...maybe if it rings a bell, this guy's house was burned down by arsonists in S. America and he lost his life's collection and works in the fire before moving back to the states.
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