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    ^Trinity College of course is the same way (more kids there act spoiled, primary difference?). The campus knows who's dealing, but like you said looks the other way. Until something happens and the press gets involved however. And same with UConn, and the other school in and out of the state.
     

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    Hey ZestyZebra, do you have a new link to the police report? It sounds very interesting, but the link is dead.
     

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    Definitely not MDMA. MDMA doesn't do that to 11 ppl in one night. Never has, never will. Get your facts straight.
     

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    Journal of Intensive Care Medicine 05/2012; DOI: 10.1177/0885066612445982
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    ABSTRACT Twelve patients with 3,4-methylenedioxymethamphetamine (MDMA) toxicity from a single rave event presented to multiple San Francisco Bay area hospitals with various life-threatening complications including seizures and hyperthermia. Eight required emergent endotracheal intubation and six had hypotension. Hyperkalemia, acute kidney injury, and rhabdomyolysis were present in most of the patients. In all, 2 patients died, 4 survived with permanent neurologic, musculoskeletal, and/or renal sequelae, and 6 survived without any apparent lasting deficits. Hyperthermia was present in 10 patients and was severe (40.9-43 C) in 7. Using multiple cooling methods, the average time to achieve cooling was 2.7 hours. Serum drug analysis was performed on 3 patients, demonstrating toxic MDMA concentrations without the presence of other xenobiotics. Two capsules confiscated by police at the event contained 82% and 98% MDMA, respectively, without other pharmacologically active compounds. Capsule #2 contained 270 mg MDMA, which is more than twice the amount of MDMA usually contained in 1 dose. The MDMA-induced hyperthermia significantly contributed to the morbidity and mortality in this case series. Factors contributing to the severity of the hyperthermia include ingestion of large doses of MDMA, a warm ambient environment, and physical exertion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by poledriver View Post
    Journal of Intensive Care Medicine 05/2012; DOI: 10.1177/0885066612445982
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    ABSTRACT Twelve patients with 3,4-methylenedioxymethamphetamine (MDMA) toxicity from a single rave event presented to multiple San Francisco Bay area hospitals with various life-threatening complications including seizures and hyperthermia. Eight required emergent endotracheal intubation and six had hypotension. Hyperkalemia, acute kidney injury, and rhabdomyolysis were present in most of the patients. In all, 2 patients died, 4 survived with permanent neurologic, musculoskeletal, and/or renal sequelae, and 6 survived without any apparent lasting deficits. Hyperthermia was present in 10 patients and was severe (40.9-43 C) in 7. Using multiple cooling methods, the average time to achieve cooling was 2.7 hours. Serum drug analysis was performed on 3 patients, demonstrating toxic MDMA concentrations without the presence of other xenobiotics. Two capsules confiscated by police at the event contained 82% and 98% MDMA, respectively, without other pharmacologically active compounds. Capsule #2 contained 270 mg MDMA, which is more than twice the amount of MDMA usually contained in 1 dose. The MDMA-induced hyperthermia significantly contributed to the morbidity and mortality in this case series. Factors contributing to the severity of the hyperthermia include ingestion of large doses of MDMA, a warm ambient environment, and physical exertion.
    That's very strange. 270 mg of MDMA is a big capsule, sure, but gram-plus dosages in a night of very pure MDMA were not that uncommon when I was active in the rave scene here and I've never seen anyone have anything resembling an overdose.

    I suppose it makes sense that 540 mg of MDMA, taken all at once, with absolutely no tolerance, in an extremely warm environment with a lack of air flow, could cause this kind of effect in a small fraction of users.
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    Quote Originally Posted by S.J.P. View Post
    That's very strange. 270 mg of MDMA is a big capsule, sure, but gram-plus dosages in a night of very pure MDMA were not that uncommon when I was active in the rave scene here and I've never seen anyone have anything resembling an overdose.

    I suppose it makes sense that 540 mg of MDMA, taken all at once, with absolutely no tolerance, in an extremely warm environment with a lack of air flow, could cause this kind of effect in a small fraction of users.
    If the ravers were not drinking enough water it is entirely possible.
     

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    http://www.filedropper.com/20150226153037454

    This should work sorry for the wait
     

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    Here's a link to the affidavit.

    What a fucked up situation. It sounds like these people all overdosed on 5-MeO-MIPT, of all things.

    One of the guys, Eric Lonergan, was arrested and given $100,000 bail for having a few prescription pills that aren't even in the Controlled Substances Act. If that's even illegal (I don't know the American laws well enough to tell that), it's undoubtedly a minor infraction. He wasn't even involved in the overdoses at all.

    For some perspective, I got $1,000 bail for trafficking 2 ounces of MDMA. Thank God I don't live in the U.S. That kid sounds a lot like me a few years ago.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by S.J.P. View Post
    Here's a link to the affidavit.

    What a fucked up situation. It sounds like these people all overdosed on 5-MeO-MIPT, of all things.

    One of the guys, Eric Lonergan, was arrested and given $100,000 bail for having a few prescription pills that aren't even in the Controlled Substances Act. If that's even illegal (I don't know the American laws well enough to tell that), it's undoubtedly a minor infraction. He wasn't even involved in the overdoses at all.

    For some perspective, I got $1,000 bail for trafficking 2 ounces of MDMA. Thank God I don't live in the U.S. That kid sounds a lot like me a few years ago.
    The link isn't working for me.
    Also, can you cite a source for this since this link leads nowhere?
    5-MeO-MIPT wouldn't fool medical professionals into thinking the kids OD'd on any "molly" chemical, OD symptoms of that drug do not mimic MDMA overdose symptoms. It is not an amphetamine or even stimulant, it's a psychedelic.
     

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    It works for me, I chose the 'slow download' option in the middle.

    It's the same file (pdf) as zesty zebras link the post before it.
     

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    They found 4 capsules of tested MDMA, among other chemicals.
    Nowhere in the affidavit does it say the students overdosed on 5-Me-MIPT, they just found some at the apartment (along with many many other drugs)
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trying2Iso View Post
    They found 4 capsules of tested MDMA, among other chemicals.
    Nowhere in the affidavit does it say the students overdosed on 5-Me-MIPT, they just found some at the apartment (along with many many other drugs)
    If you read the testimony of the people who overdosed, they mention feeling slow, heavy, strange, and going to sleep. Doesn't sound like a stimulant overdose to me.

    Can you post the quote where they say they found MDMA? I don't see it anywhere.
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    The bottom line is that neither we nor they know what the hell they took, but it is very, very unlikely that it was pure or nearly pure MDMA with no other drugs.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by S.J.P. View Post
    If you read the testimony of the people who overdosed, they mention feeling slow, heavy, strange, and going to sleep. Doesn't sound like a stimulant overdose to me.

    Can you post the quote where they say they found MDMA? I don't see it anywhere.
    It's right in the beginning. read again, they found 4 capsules that tested positive for MDMA. I cant copy/paste it because it's a picture of a piece of paper.
    MDMA can produce a wide variety of effects in overdose tho, which can vary among individuals
    "MDMA can produce a variety of adverse health effects, including nausea, chills, sweating, involuntary teeth clenching, muscle cramping, and blurred vision. MDMA overdose can also occur—the symptoms can include high blood pressure, faintness, panic attacks, and in severe cases, a loss of consciousness and seizures"
    Also confusion.

    http://nypost.com/2015/02/23/11-stud...sing-on-molly/
    School officials report that the overdose symptoms the college students suffered from were similar to those of Methylone, a stimulant drug.
    And this was before the officers found MDMA in the dealer's home.
     

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    During the prohibition of alcohol the FBI used to spike the drinks of people who wanted to drink alcohol in order to taint the use of alcohol and make it seem worse than it was. This isn't a theory it has been proven.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trying2Iso View Post
    It's right in the beginning. read again, they found 4 capsules that tested positive for MDMA. I cant copy/paste it because it's a picture of a piece of paper.
    Oh, you must be referring to paragraph 13 of the first affidavit. If you would have read further, you would know that those capsules only "field tested" positive for MDMA and that they were taken to a state lab, where they were found not to contain MDMA or any other known psychoactive substance. The only identifiable drug found in Olson's room was 5-MeO-MIPT.
     

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    I really hope no one took 270 mg 5-meo-mipt. (Just putting the dose i saw and the chemical he had together I could be totally wrong infact I hope I am because that would be an awful way to go)
     

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    I we t to ISU 2 years ago (where wesleyan gets most of its drugs anyways) and the sale of rcs as legitimate substances was out of control i estimate taking around upwards of 6mg of some nbome sold as lsd because I wasnt the wiser. I even had 2 friends have seizures on uknown chems(not trying to knock something without exact knowledge ofwhat it was) people need to advertise products for what they are so people dont go stupid with dosages like i did thinking its safe..

    Edit *i was refering to the wrong wesleyan, my point still stands though*
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    Molly is methylone the news would not choose to confuse the world over diction. Surely they thing methylone isn't known enough to be socially relevant, so went with ambiguous term. This based on two blogs that misuse the term as there source. Mdma is becoming as easy to get as qualludes. We will tell are kids about it, the good old days when ecstasy was mdma. Plus I can't see thAt many people using absurd terminology of the news.. Do they call herion horse, fire, montaga- sorry don't speak Spanish, or say a man arrested for 3 kilos of soft ball.No. I bet the use of any future chemicals on my part will be given to the poor if it was mdma. And will give up being a blue lighter and start over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3dempty View Post
    Molly is methylone the news would not choose to confuse the world over diction. Surely they thing methylone isn't known enough to be socially relevant, so went with ambiguous term. This based on two blogs that misuse the term as there source. Mdma is becoming as easy to get as qualludes. We will tell are kids about it, the good old days when ecstasy was mdma. Plus I can't see thAt many people using absurd terminology of the news.. Do they call herion horse, fire, montaga- sorry don't speak Spanish, or say a man arrested for 3 kilos of soft ball.No. I bet the use of any future chemicals on my part will be given to the poor if it was mdma. And will give up being a blue lighter and start over.

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    Not sure if that was to me but no molly is not supposed to be methylone don't know how you would get that idea??
    Socially relevant or not words have meanings and saying that they mean what they don't helps no one. Also I don't get the qualudes reference mdma is everywhere if your not a retard and test your shit. People get methylone instead of mdma because they are not educated. Like really it wouldn't even have gotten here if people had educated themselves on drugs they ingest.
     

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    A fifth student has now been charged
    Abhimanyu Janamanchi, 21, of Rockville, Md., turned himself in to Middletown police Friday morning on charges of two counts of distribution of a hallucinogen, two counts of possession of a hallucinogen, possession of a controlled substance and possession of a controlled substance with intent to sell.
    The warrant says witnesses told police Janamanchi provided them with Molly they took on Feb. 21, and that police found capsules with what appeared to be four different powdery substances in his belongings and in his room in the next day while investigating the overdoses.
    According to another article he was one of the students hospitalized and had to be resuscitated, which explains why he was only arrested now.
    Police said he gave the substance to three people. They, along with himself, were among those hospitalized.
    "They did bring him back and resuscitate him," attorney Christian Young, who is representing Janamanchi, said.
    Investigators said Janamanchi, who was known to sell Molly and pot, provided two friends with one capsule, while taking two himself.
     

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    Not sure if that was to me but no molly is not supposed to be methylone don't know how you would get that idea??
    Socially relevant or not words have meanings and saying that they mean what they don't helps no one. Also I don't get the qualudes reference mdma is everywhere if your not a retard and test your shit. People get methylone instead of mdma because they are not educated. Like really it wouldn't even have gotten here if people had educated themselves on drugs they ingest.
    According to a recent DEA statement, only 13% of the molly seized in the U.S. lately even contains MDMA, so how can you say that "MDMA is everywhere"?
    Do you test your gear?
    Also, just because you're young and still have good drug hookups doesn't mean that someone who doesn't is a "retard." That's just a retarded thing for you to say yourself.
    Getting MDMA in England or California is a lot easier than scoring on the East Coast, for example.
     

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    From a CNN report on 9 things every one should know about molly. They state, "The DEA says only 13% of the Molly seized in New York state the last four years actually contained any MDMA, and even then it often was mixed with other drugs." The DEA also states "heroin is commonly found in ecstasy." Sezuires of pure MDMA have dropped over the past 6 years. From 5,377 pounds in 2008 to 954 in 2012. They conclude people are taking other drugs more often and mixing them to produce "molly". Unfortunately the popularity of molly has only increased. I didn't believe it at first but to me it looks like the once purer slang term for powdered MDMA or MDA/MDMA mixtures are now more often not so pure.
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