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The Likely Cause of Addiction Has Been Discovered and it's not what you think........

good call shambles - for me its a never ending internal dialogue of does heroin make me depressed or do i take it because im depressed and unforunately because of PAWS it can get very confusing.I have picked up gear in the past because of being in a bad place emotionally then it becomes a habit.. The longest time i was off gear was when i went out raving cos it was such good fun, apart from the tuesday comedown : (
 
I had a bit of a false start with smack n crack then reverted to my first love (psyches, entactogens n stims) then a lengthy fling with the smack n crack then back to my first love once again. There was a lengthy PAWS period after the extended crack n smack time but rediscovering my love for the positive and mind-opening end of the drugs spectrum won out eventually... albeit with some rather hairy dives to the very depths (and heights) of heavy, heavy (of so very heavy) stim abuse along the way. Am surprisingly stable now and see opiates (and indeed coke) as occasional tools for specific reasons rather than a way of life. Whilst I was still using the latter (specifically the scag) daily it would be utterly impossible to convince me I would now feel this way though. Make of that what you will. And good luck <3
 
Its all about distractions if you have enough of them you don't need drugs, you will be too busy to think and thus won't be miserable. Boredom is the killer of man
 
And man is the killer of boredom..init.
I forgot about my heroic coke years in the 90's - always 75-80% and 600 on the oz - should have made a mint... but then started shooting it, then speedballs and that put me in the worst place evah and destroyed all my blue wiggly things.
 
You know not one person will give you a reason for addiction, reality is life is a series of addictions, a bunch of time sinks till you die. Difference with drugs is they're instant gratification and lets face it we pick the easy options because we just cba with the tougher options. Thats all there is to it, that and the fact a drug addiction gives you a skewed meaning for existing, your reason for existence is the drug alone. Without the drug you're gonna need a lot more reasons

Love for example that is a drug every human is naturally addicted to and something we all crave, break up with your partner and you're literally in a drug withdrawal.
 
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Love for example that is a drug every human is naturally addicted to and something we all crave, break up with your partner and you're literally in a drug withdrawal.
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Yeh, I've always said that withdrawals are like a grieving process psychologically speaking... The symptoms might subside with time, but you never forget what/who you've lost...
 
very interesting stuff... i argee with it 110%... when i first tried getting off H i was trying to do it alone and thankfully and strangly enough it brought me closer to my mother who never gave up on me and with her support and going to IOP it was able to help me out alot... but after reading this i believe that reconnecting with my mom and connecting with other ppl in recovery helped me to socalize again... i just wish more ppl would think about this instead of just the old shun and lock em up way of thinking....
 
Thanks for sharing this. I've read some of those experiments awhile back and found them quite interesting, especially the talk on the Heroin and the Vietnam war. Very interesting. I'm going to sound a hypocrite here but I don't necessarily agree with tough-love when it comes to addiction. People have used that tactic towards me and did not like the reaction they received back from me. What gives someone who, say, has taken drugs for 10 odd year to come to another person and say stuff like "You ought to take responsibility" etc etc. I've come against many in recovery, with this attitude, I can tell ye - so yea I don't agree with the tough-love approach. Tried it myself with someone once and the less said on that, the better.

Unless a person wants to get better there's not really a lot others can do because the addiction becomes more important than anyone else.

Evey
 
Shambles said:
If changing one's personal circumstances were so simple we'd all be doing it. We live in a harsh and uncaring society. It's that very "pull yourself up by yer bootstraps and sort yourself out, sonny" attitude that's the problem.
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Very true it's not as black n white as we're all so often to believe. I missed this article until Inflo posted it on thread n thus misunderstood n thought blondin was asking us to talk about our experiences (that will teach me for replying to a thread like this whilst intoxicated by alcohol). Apologies Blondin.

As I stated in Inflo's thread, I was hugely fascinated by the Vietman study (read thus awhile ago) but the reason that none of those people become addicted to heroin after the war may not have owt to do with any "cage affect," but they the soddliers may not be susceptible to addiction for whatever reason - give it "an addiction gene," a desease or whatever the theories. Another exemplar could be students. When they have access to SU bar n other low-cost access to alcohol, they often consume a lot. This doesn't make post post-students alcoholics n from this we cannot conclude that only people whom are students tend to become addicts so thimus why draw the convlusion that people become addicts as a result of difficult conditions?

Are the rats addicted or just filling their time? Or filling a void? A large consuming of any given substance or behaviour does not necessarily mean addiction. Addiction is much more complex than that as any addict will know.

I feel that these studies are beneficial to the study n treatment of addiction but they only scratch the surface of what is a complex phenomena. Like individualism, addiction means many different things to many different addicts. An illistration of this is the recovery techniques in which different addicts use to treat / overcome their addiction: many use NA/AA thinking abstinance from all mind-altering substances is the answer while others believe that maintenance (ie methadone or suboxone) is the solution. Many believe that the addiction only ie DoC / behaviour needs treating while others believe that one needs to get to the root cause of the problem in order for the addiction to cease n for recovery to come into affect. Many believe an addict is an addict for life n must always be "in recovery" n focusing on this while others believe in getting on with their life as focusing on "recovery" will make them go backwards. Who's to say who's right or wrong? Will we ever know the true answer or will treatment always be a case of "different strokes for different folks?"

Thank you Blondin n Inflo. Thought-provoking stuff.

Evey
 
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