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Buying drugs online: NSW lawyers 'radical proposal' to decriminalise drugs

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Buying drugs online: NSW lawyers 'radical proposal' to decriminalise drugs

A teenager on Sydney's northern beaches orders cocaine online and has it posted to their front door. It is just one of the signs that existing drug laws have "substantially failed", according to top criminal barristers in NSW.

The NSW Bar Association's criminal law committee, chaired by Sydney barrister Stephen Odgers SC, has put forward a "radical proposal" to replace the black market for drugs with a highly-regulated system of legal availability.

The committee says existing laws aimed at curbing illicit drug use and supply are not working and are resulting in "considerable" harm including an unregulated black market, drug overdoses, and crimes such as prostitution and armed robbery that are committed to pay for drugs.

It says its preliminary view, subject to further research and consultation, is that the current prohibitionist approach to drugs should be abandoned and replaced with a tightly-regulated system where drugs are legally available.

The system might involve licensing controls on the production and supply of drugs, along with price regulation and comprehensive services for treating drug addiction. A ban on private trafficking, supply to children and advertising was also flagged by the committee.

The committee is made up of heavy-hitters who both prosecute and defend people accused of drug-related crimes, including former Director of Public Prosecutions Nick Cowdery QC, and highly respected silks Tim Game, John Stratton, and Gaby Bashir.

It wants the community to engage in an informed debate about drug law reform, as the state government comes under increasing pressure to convene a drug summit to tackle the issues. The Bar Association will also hold a conference on drug law reform on May 29.

The committee says it has seen the harm caused by the use of illicit drugs, but "we have also seen the harm that is caused by the current prohibitionist model with its heavy reliance on the criminal law to deter drug use".

It says the law has been "largely ineffective" at preventing the use or availability of illicit drugs and is "is now struggling to keep pace with synthetic drugs, the internet drug trade and the illicit use of pharmaceutical drugs".

The paper cites a 2010 study showing that almost 15 per cent of Australians over 14 had used illicit drugs in the last year, and 27.5 per cent of those aged between 20 and 29. Cannabis was the most commonly used illicit drug in the country, followed by ecstasy, while the use of heroin and cocaine was still relatively low.

Alcohol, meanwhile, is the most widely used lawful drug in Australia. The committee said the total social costs arising from the frequent use of alcohol was "comparable" to the frequent use of illicit drugs, while the total social costs arising from the frequent use of tobacco "substantially outweigh" those associated with illicit drugs.

The views expressed in the discussion paper do not necessarily reflect the views of the Bar Association as a whole, which has yet to form a view on the issue.

The call for a drug summit comes as the NSW government funds three trials for the medical use of cannabis.

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/buying-dr...l-to-decriminalise-drugs-20141222-12c011.html
 
the 100% prohibitionist model was not so hot. i dont know about 100% legalizing distribution. its obvious that pot should be legal but i question weather or not people should legally sell pure heroin for injecting. i do think heroin use and possession of personal quantities should be decriminalized

look at this related article i found bro. check it out or ill come and get you ha ha. this is the link for that article


http://motherboard.vice.com/read/after-silk-road-raid-the-dark-net-is-darker-than-ever
 
well weve tried 100% prohibition for 100 years... obviouslly has not worked at all... why not try 100% legalization for four years? whats the worst that can happen?
 
the 100% prohibitionist model was not so hot. i dont know about 100% legalizing distribution. its obvious that pot should be legal but i question weather or not people should legally sell pure heroin for injecting. i do think heroin use and possession of personal quantities should be decriminalized

look at this related article i found bro. check it out or ill come and get you ha ha. this is the link for that article


http://motherboard.vice.com/read/after-silk-road-raid-the-dark-net-is-darker-than-ever

I am not so sure the opinions of someone who can not differentiate between "whether" and "weather" should really be taken seriously, in light of such an important topic/debate that basically has the power to completely ruin someone's life.

Why should people not be allowed to get pure heroin? Do you want the heroin to be adulterated? Have you not seen what prohibition does already? You still think people should not have access to something they want, as long as it is not harming anyone else? Seriously, if you read that article and understand the harms of prohibition, yet come to conclusions that include keeping "chosen" drugs illegal, you need to get your IQ checked...the pure level of retard in some people is just beyond me.
 
Why should people not be allowed to get pure heroin? Do you want the heroin to be adulterated? Have you not seen what prohibition does already? You still think people should not have access to something they want, as long as it is not harming anyone else? Seriously, if you read that article and understand the harms of prohibition, yet come to conclusions that include keeping "chosen" drugs illegal, you need to get your IQ checked...the pure level of retard in some people is just beyond me.

I think you bring up some really good points, and I agree that the logic, the arrogance, and the sheer double-standards exhibited by certain individuals who are against the decriminalization, legalization, and regulation of all commonly consumed mind altering substances is truly mind-boggling - particularly if they happen to have a serious smoking and/or drinking habit.

It really irks me when my previous family physician - who would always reek of booze and tobacco - would relentlessly give me a hard time because my drug of choice happens to be a controlled substance. And it wasn't like it was warranted by the fact that I was trying to score scripts off of him, but rather, he found out about it from a copy of a blood test which I was never told was also being tested for street drugs, but I digress.
 
While I agree that prohibition has been a dreadful failure, I don't think doing a complete 180 is the way to go. I suspect that there are plenty of drugs which would only become more dangerous when legalized unless tight controls were in place (eg: cocaine and amphetamines, substances where the harm caused is inherent to the drug itself and not a result of adulteration, ROA or the need to feed a habit).

What we need is to start with a paradigm shift towards decriminalizing possession and use, re-focusing on treatment and reintegrating addicts into society, and then make a slow scientific evaluation of the legal status which causes the least harm to users and society at large for each individual chemical. There are a lot of possibilities - imagine if we could replace ethanol with legal, diluted beverages containing GHB - a substance with basically identical effects (except for being even more pleasant) but which causes a fraction of the damage to the body? Or synthesize a stimulant without the long duration of amphetamine, the neurotoxicity of methamphetamine or the cardiotoxicity of cocaine, ideally with a milder comedown and less fiendish effect? Or find an opioid which is long lasting enough that it can maintain an addict for over 24 hours in XR form and pleasant enough that the user would be willing to take it in the place of street heroin/pharms? Create long lasting, holistic programs which integrate the use of hallucinogens with psychotherapy, CBT and other programs designed to create long lasting changes in thought patterns and lifestyle to help break people out of mental illness and addiction?

The possibilities are endless, but to just swing the pendulum towards the other end of the spectrum and allow outlets to sell whatever recreational chemicals they want without strict testing, regulation and oversight would not only be a huge waste of these possibilities, and quite likely just as harmful as prohibition, it would confirm everything prohibitionists have said about the need to turn drug users into criminals and do more harm than good to the cause of creating a society in which drugs serve humanity while causing us the least harm possible.
 
I am not so sure the opinions of someone who can not differentiate between "whether" and "weather" should really be taken seriously, in light of such an important topic/debate that basically has the power to completely ruin someone's life.
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you need to get your IQ checked...the pure level of retard in some people is just beyond me.

i think you totally have the right two say that
 
a generation of addicts.

They managed pretty well before 1914 when you could mail order heroin and cocaine. Of course our culture has evolved a great deal, which is why I don't advocate going back to free distribution, but a slow, steady, scientific shift in policy should land us in the sweet spot between harm caused by prohibition and harm caused by drugs.
 
Pot heads and their pot, "legalize my precious, my precious pot, but not these other drugs" (said in a Gollum accent)
 
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