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Bupe Suboxone/Buprenorphine FAQ & Megathread v3; 2010 - 2022

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Does anyone else snort sub strips? I tried it monday by cutting a 8mg strip in half then cut one half into pieces about as wide as a tooth pick then cut those small strips into 4 or 5 little squares. I'm coming off a 40-60mg per day opana habit and snorting the subs seems to work a lot better to me than putting it under my tongue.
 
lol why do you need to sniff those? is that just your thing.. sniffing? I've never heard or read of someone sniffing strips like that.. have you? I would not waste my time w/ that; I actually hate those sub strips and just stick to the pill form.
 
I've heard of it, although the person was tapering and taking doses of 0.125mg in bacteriostatic water in an inhaler previously filled with a fentanyl analog sold only in a up the nose inhaler for safety/smart reasons.

It's as weird to me as "wet snorts" of BT heroin, but I guess it's better than IV'ing. I long ago stopped snorting my suboxone pills since the lemon and lime extracts in it made it very painful and also last much less longer than if taken the correct way or with a little vodka under the tongue to increase B/A.

They really need to come up with ZubSolv or BunAvail here, because it looks like i'm going back on methadone because of what it's done to my teeth. I have the meds to guard me from the bad effects methadone had on me (Delatestryl, Tamoxifen...subcutaneous weekly testosterone injection and an oral anti-estrogen, used to take anastrazole, but it looks like it did the best it could, which was destroy all painful cysts near the nipple areas and reduced my mini-gyno by 50%, yet I want it all gone, Tamoxifen is more effective for that apparently as an anti-estrogen/anti-mammary nodules). Although, it also caused me to gain 110 pounds when taken for 11 months...I gotta get off this shit, my GP is waiting for me to get off bupe to script me 60mg generic oxycontin and get the fuck out of that ORT clinic's patient list (of course I'll advise them at first, they will pretty much know when I'm down to 2mg a day and say I'm quitting eventually, they know about the pain issues that led me to their beautiful junkie clinic, which I wasn't, I never injected anything until pills that work through the mouth became unavailable (mostly Oxycontins, but also IR Oxy's were gone even if not recalled by the government), market was flooded by hydromorphone and one gets sick of paying so much for something that lasts 2 hours when snorted, not at all when eaten (that's why they love to script low-dose dilaudid (1mg, 2mg) and low dose hydromorph contins (anything from the 3mg to the 12mg is useless orally to me, when tolerance-less...).

It was predictable. The ORT clinics all had a huge wave of new customers although here they don't want to keep you forever, it costs the government, thus the better when you can quit. Mine had an increase of 570% of patients, generic oxycontins are available, but not in enough quantity..the people who get them mostly keep them, as they need them, and the only argument one can come up with to desire generic oxys is that they cost less than the OxyNeos, which cost about double the generics; so much that I don't even see the doctor anymore at my appointments to renew the bupe script, unless I need to talk to a doctor (stuff that's not scheduled that they gave me scripts to, maybe something new to help, even get an authorized full agonist script for something you got a script for....but I guess only people like me with clean piss since almost 3 years except for weed sometimes and the valium I'm prescribed legally....they don't even bother taking urine samples from me since about a year, I had 3 pee samples taken in the last 15 months, they know I bounced back despite all the horrendous side effects methadone gave me after half a year when they became apparent and at 11 months when I stopped taking it when I had testosterone levels in the gutter and became obese for the first time in my life.

Why couldn't I be born in Switzerland, Austria, Italy where they would have given me MS-Contins at the needed level for 30 days in a hospital bed. Seems a lot more productive if you can afford to stay at a hospital for 30 days.
 
lol why do you need to sniff those? is that just your thing.. sniffing? I've never heard or read of someone sniffing strips like that.. have you? I would not waste my time w/ that; I actually hate those sub strips and just stick to the pill form.
yeah I guess sniffing is my thing....I'm trying to stay away from the needles. I can't get the pill form but have a couple steady connects for the strips. I actually got the idea from the previous sub mega thread reading through it someone said they did it and it worked well. I forgot to add in my previous post it really helps to suck up a little water up your nose to help get the little pieces all the way up your noes.
 
Cardboard/blotter paper up your nose...oh noes, that sounds like a bad idea. Some people make a solution by having strips sit in a small amount of liquid, citric acid and water or something like that, I only read about it. We only had 2mg and 8mg white pills. I think the orange american pills are gone totally, one would need Subutex if one wanted pills...I'm jealous that guys can have it. We were promised it in 2005, way before I cared about opiates, just kept abreast of things like that, but then Rickett-Buttheiser lobbied Health Canada hardcore and we ended up with Suboxone, with pills so acidic, lime and lemon natural and artificial extracts in them...I imagine there was citric acid in the American pills, but nowhere like ours, which make the fact that naloxone doesn't really do anything if you shoot it up moot, no filter, in the world, will get rid of that fucking dangerous to the veins and I imagine heart concentrated citric acid that will make its way through someone's body.

But anyway, you should try making a solution, bacteriostatic water in those vials in injection kits works, although there isn't much per vial, there's normally just enough for a one shot per vial, IV. So not that much liquid, one can obtain such water easily though, through other means.
 
Anyone ever find a way to prevent sub inductions for precipitated withdrawal for big habit users? Also has anyone tried the "sub building" up in the system while still using to make the transition without PW? Same concept as you taking subs while using your drug of choice and able to stop taking the drug and continue subs without going into Pw. Has anyone tried doing it in reverse?
 
Re: front page. What about adding subutex 0.4 as well as the tengestics 0.2 mg? I take the 0.4s n just think it may be useful to make people aware of them.

Evey
 
It has been awhile since I posted or have beeI on this site. I need information and I hope this is the right place for my?
I used to go to a methadone clinic and left after 2 yrs. I am in South FL so I guess the response should be from someone
who knows about those clinic requirements or maybe they're the same anywhere in the U.S. I have been gone more than 2 weeks
or enough time for them to close my case out and I guess come off their database but I don't know if that matters for my?
If I wanted to go back and get on suboxone (which is a service their now) what would they need for me to go back aside from a urine
test that would come up positive for Buprenorphine since I have been taking it since I left. I am taking 16mg a day and will run
out soon. They don't know I am on it now but they do know I took it before I started Methadone initially. How does the dispensing
work at clinics with sub? I do have a Dr that I see monthly it's just that I'm short until the next app. Any help would be appreciated. Thanx
 
Well, you could just phone the clinic and ask via telephone. Also you could definitely lower your dose (16mg is pretty high) so you don't run out before your next appointment.
Usually stepping down from 16mg to 12 or even 8 is no big deal. After that it gets hard but I'd try to taper down. What was your habit like before the subs?
 
Re: front page. What about adding subutex 0.4 as well as the tengestics 0.2 mg? I take the 0.4s n just think it may be useful to make people aware of them.

Evey

Temgesic 0.2mg would be very welcome in north america, either US or Canada. But they went with the BuTrans patches, where the strongest patch releases 20ug(microgram) an hour over 24 hours, so 0.480mg or 4.8mg over a whole day. I guess these (the strongest patches) could be useful for people having trouble getting under 1-1.5mg of bupe a day. Ideally, my country (the US has it), Buprenex ampoules of 0.3mg should be investigated. As for Subutex...we were promised it back in 2005-2006 and then Rickett panicked and forced Health Canada's hand into accepting the useless, much more expensive (but that doesn't matter in the revolving goverment/corporate door) Suboxone convincing some idiots that the Naloxone in it has any effect.
 
Sorry I'm new here and don't know how to post. But I have a question about suboxone withdrawal. I'm in the hospital recovering from heart surgery. I had to have my valve replaced because 8 years of IV heroin use eventually lead to and infection which destroyed the valve. Anyway, I've been off the sub (regular dose was 8mg, took it for 4 years) for 2 1/2 weeks now and have been on other opiates for pain. They're weaning me off those and will be giving me lyrica, clonidine, and Xanax for withdrawal. I'm afraid obviously of being sick. But was wondering if the withdrawal might be less prolonged because I've been on oxycodone for a few weeks? I don't know if anyone's had a similar experience. Any thoughts would be so appreciated.
 
Temgesic 0.2mg would be very welcome in north america, either US or Canada. But they went with the BuTrans patches, where the strongest patch releases 20ug(microgram) an hour over 24 hours, so 0.480mg or 4.8mg over a whole day. I guess these (the strongest patches) could be useful for people having trouble getting under 1-1.5mg of bupe a day. Ideally, my country (the US has it), Buprenex ampoules of 0.3mg should be investigated. As for Subutex...we were promised it back in 2005-2006 and then Rickett panicked and forced Health Canada's hand into accepting the useless, much more expensive (but that doesn't matter in the revolving goverment/corporate door) Suboxone convincing some idiots that the Naloxone in it has any effect.

Ah I didn't know you can't get the 0.4, 0.2mg in USA/Canada. That explains why people cut up their pills when tapering.

I'm now on 2.8 mg. that's 2 mg suboxone n 2, 0.4 mg subutex. It's difficult explaining it all to people as they're like "how can you be on suboxone n subutex at the same time. End of the day they're all Buprenorphine.

Alley - you're already posting. And this is the right place to get responses re suboxone. Unless you mean create a thread? Go to the top click "other Drugs" to go back to other drugs main page. On the top left there'll be a tab "new thread" click that n fill out the necessary fields / information; title n post. Hope you get the information you need n wish you well on getting better

Evey
 
But was wondering if the withdrawal might be less prolonged because I've been on oxycodone for a few weeks?

Theoretically it should be shorter because Oxy is not as long acting as Buprenorphine is but depending on your dose and the taper the WD could be more intense.
But if they wean you off professionally and with the medication you will be getting it should be doable.
In my experience it is much better to feel it getting better after 3-5 days then to suffer for 1-2 weeks or longer.

@0,4mg: Here in Germany we even have 0,4mg Subutex Generics (Buprenaddict) which are very good to taper off with. But they are never sold on the black market because the average junkie is used to the 8mg.
 
Does anyone else snort sub strips? I tried it monday by cutting a 8mg strip in half then cut one half into pieces about as wide as a tooth pick then cut those small strips into 4 or 5 little squares. I'm coming off a 40-60mg per day opana habit and snorting the subs seems to work a lot better to me than putting it under my tongue.

I used to be on strips. You can snort them by dissolving in water. I put it in an eye drop case then dripped that in nose. Similar to a method you can do with black tar heroin. However, I wouldn't recomend it, I still prefer sublingual subs to snorting.
 
From personal experience I can say that on several occasions when I have entered the awful arena of PW due to taking subs too early, I have used opiates to feel better. It usually takes 2-3 times my usual dose of h, but works everytime, thank God.
I have also found a routine to avoid the 24 hour wait before the first sub dose. I can take my first dose of sub when I wake up, after using opiates the night before. Then whilst waiting for the sub to work I use opiates to make the sub work (push them into place so to speak). After 3- 4 days of this routine the bupes half life catches up with itself and I can wait 24 hours as I have enough bupe in me not to feel sick during that time. Then i am settled on the suboxone. It's not the healthiest approach I'll agree, however it works and for those who dont want to wait 24 miserable hours before starting the subs....
However everybody is different and I have friends who can take sub 2 hours after opiates and have no PW !!! Lucky bastards.
Hope this is helpful.
JD
 
As quick a ? as I can write - I'm on bupe. Took ~76 hours "off". Scored a bundle a from a guy who seemed to be on the up. Fuck yeah. He was. He warned me that 72 hours out from my last bupe dose I'd be floored by a bag!?! Very skeptically I slammed (IV'd) 3/4 of bag fully expecting to feel absolutely nothing. It hit, not super hard, kind of crept up a bit but I've been pretty high for an hour, itchy and oh, so nice... and it's not fading. The dope is very light tan, from the palm of my hand it looks white, but in the "cooker" it's a slight tan and fully dissolves. I cold shoot. Guy swore it was simply "pretty damn pure dope", is that possible in the US? Street scored?

I hear a lot about ecp being cut with fentanyl. I'm in western NY state. Does how hard this shot hit me - about like a .1 of excellent AZ border town bth w/ minimal IV tolerance - seem to indicate to anyone that this may well be fentanyl laced?

I have a surplus of bupe to trade for more and would like to continue my short but now very sweet vacation. And preferably return home alive. Any other advice to maintain safety is welcome, short of "don't do it."

Cheers.
 
all I can say is this shit has been doing so good for me since day one; yes, I fucked up a few times early but nowadays I am on 12-16/MG/day and I dont crave or even think of dope. I also moved to a new spot so I am not in that same OLD situation. not to mention I got my license back, so if this isnt a good time to stay on bupe and get away from dope, then, well, I dont know what is.

I do need a pill to get MY SEX DRIVE BACK - its sucks on these, kinda like it did on dope.
 
Boston? You've noticed that too? I used to want it everyday but these thing don't motivate me. I mean it's not totally gone, I just have to get a little kick start to get motivated. Next topic! Viagra and subs combination side effects? Lol
 
Assessment for BMT/Sub script this afternoon. Time to move on from the shit that was killing me and ruining my veins. I need to make this work this time around unlike MMT.
 
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