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RCs Novel opioid, U-47700-Mega Thread and FAQ

3 days and back to 90% normal. I mean compared with other opiate that is a considerable difference. I feel like if you don't already have an addiction to opiates in general going in that this one is as good as dilauid (which is highly addictive as well but the w/d's last about a week to two).

That said, the main drawbacks seem to be the immediate w/d's but I don't actually seem much direct danger from that coming up.

And mike.vick: I asked you to stop fear mongering by pm but you asked me to call you out in public. In 1970's Upjohn did research into this compound, if you look at the patent these things were noted and the half life was a main reason this was dropped. You have no reason to keep posting about how you don't like RC's other than your "I'm coming off opiates so I should get to rant as much as I want and I can make shit up if I want to" message you sent me. I am not saying that this is a good drug, but there is no "its gunna kill your brain" in the research that was done and lying to people spits in the face of harm reduction.
 
And mike.vick: I asked you to stop fear mongering by pm but you asked me to call you out in public. In 1970's Upjohn did research into this compound, if you look at the patent these things were noted and the half life was a main reason this was dropped. You have no reason to keep posting about how you don't like RC's other than your "I'm coming off opiates so I should get to rant as much as I want and I can make shit up if I want to" message you sent me. I am not saying that this is a good drug, but there is no "its gunna kill your brain" in the research that was done and lying to people spits in the face of harm reduction.

The fact that it never became a pharmaceutical should tell you that it is destructive to living things. The companies choose what information to put out regarding it's withdrawal from research, without possible knowledge that some fool would synthesis this and take it.
When you ingest untested chemicals, you are taking your life into your own hands risking, at least permanent, brain, organ, and/or cellular damage along with death.

google the human study on a faah inhibitor that increases endocannabinoid action and you will see the dangers of RCs, and the potentially fatal discrepancy between human and animal models. Actually, here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BIA_10-2474
 
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Do I speak for everyone when I say that those who choose to partake in RC's have either a. done the research, lots of these drugs were going to hit the market, there was just a lack of need, how many benzos and opies you need on the market. b. realize there guinea pigging themselves or c. simply disregard the dangers and are in way over they're head. (the bad ones)

personally I did the research but that's your call.
 
I have been taking oral 15-30 mg of oxy on an almost daily basis for the past 3-4 years. I recently tried oral u47700 and the euphoria and high was amazing. I started with a similar amount of 15-30 mgs but then found me redosing every 2-3 hours. Since the taste is horrible I wrap this up in a small piece of toilet paper and then swallow. This quickly like next day quickly escalated to 100-200 mgs every 3-4 hours. The biggest downside for me is as you continue to redose you don't fee the same euphoria and will experience some stomach pains or the sweats maybe heart palpitations and some anxiety. I felt like i was going to die for about 5 mins once while taking this. I personally have dark circles around my eyes and this made them even worse. The next morning after use you wake up covered in sweat to the point that it's dripping off your face. I can't seem to get past 12 hours off this drug. The worst part of the withdrawal for me is the hot and cold sweats. I have tried Xanax for the withdrawal but it seems to not have any effect. Any recommendations or help will be greatly appreciated. Also a big warning is if you currently enjoy your opiods after taking this you will no longer feel the same effects you felt before. I can now take 60mgs of oxy and I don't even feel anything it just helps with the withdrawal slightly.
Since this is so caustic I was curious if anyone has any serious complications for taking this orally like a stomach ulcer or even ripping a hole in there esophagus.
Please let me know if you have any success with withdrawal and what worked best for you.

Believe me, I only bothered because I'm on Suboxone and was told it was able to toss the bupe away, and it did. I could feel that if i wasn't on it, the euphoria would be on par with my DOC (IV Dilaudid). I didn't want to eat it because of how caustic it is, also I would have had much less doses. But in all honesty, even if what got me in ORT was IV Dilaudid addiction (brought on by the temporary removal of Oxycontin..and I wasn't able to get Oxy IR's or Supeudols (same thing)...so good job Health Canada 8)...but the best high I ever had was when I was able to get 200mg MS-Contins or Statex 50mg, Statex is like MS IR but the composition of the pill is like Dilaudid...pretty damn safe with a regular securicup filter, and they go up to 50mg, where MS IR's stop at 30.

Anyway, eating a couple MS-Contins 200mg with some Atarax for the nausea and itchies and shooting up some 50mg Statex whenever I wanted (this lasted about 3 weeks, probably my best time on this Earth). I was still a chipper then, I did that for 3 weeks and when I ran out, I was okay. I had a stronger force of will compared to many but I did eventually break. All this because of a mosh pit accident in a hardcore punk show back in 2000. Stupid idiots who go windmilling in a circle pit not caring if they hit someone..anyway. I'm old enough now to say stupid fucking kids! (even if I still like my hardcore punk, punk and thrash).

As for research..I only smoked weed 3-4 times and had a couple hits of L before I discovered Erowid. I was extremely cautious for years, but a pain issue has really complicated my life.

I only bought some once, its not worth it since i'm on bupe, plus, I already got a stash, from Hydromorph Contins 30's to generic Oxycodone-CR 60's that I bought at ridiculous prices (those people did not know the street value of opiates at all, it's kinda bizarre how so many people say they hate taking any medication, even a tylenol for a headache or whatever. Some guy I know has multiple hernias in his spine and still does construction work, his pain levels are off the chart, his doctor scripted him Oxycodone-CR's 60's and he got em for free from his private insurance and does not take them at all, he drinks hard liquor and he says that if he has to stop drinking, then it's shit and trashes any other drug than alcohol. A lot of people like that here. It's funny how a lot of people who need and are scripted opiates, do not take them around here.

I gotta say it's pleasant to be able to look at a jar with around 70 Dilaudid, brand name, in it and not wanting to touch it. Bupe really works for this, although I am sick of it and want something for pain that's much less strong. The ORT clinic has already done everything so I transfer to the pain clinic, which thankfully are both in the same hospital here. When I get off bupe, I'll be put on generic oxy 40's or 60's every 12 hours, that does sound high to some, but it's not to somebody who is taking bupe, might be a partial agonist...it's still extremely strong and for so little reward (pretty much why I bothered with U-47700 in the first place since I was told by people I trust here that it does go over bupe, how, I don't know, the few times I hurt myself or had a skin infection that was really painful, I was given Abstrals (Fentanyl sublingual pills) first time 80ug and the skin infection thing...they had to script me the 200ug's. Was told to mention i'm on bupe if I get into some accident or whatever. I'm trying to get a script for Zytram XL (extended-release tramadol) as I hear it will work over the bupe). Bupe is really shitty long term, it should not be taken for years...Anyway ramblin, all this to say, I got some for the same reason I got some nasal Fu-F sprays. So I can have something for pain that works over the bupe, which really does not help for pain, at least for people with a tolerance etc. My grandma wears a BuTrans patch...the strongest ones...20ug/hour. Lol, but yeah, it's scripted for moderate but constant pain, so I can see the logic in that.
 
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^^^ avoid almost all of the drugs you are taking, but particularly phenibut. It is one of the worst rebound-effects that I have experienced.

I´m taking 2-2,5g Phenibut daily since 2013 so it´s not possible to not take it for a day or so, I have to use the U4 along with it or I would get into withdrawals. The tram and kratom could be left away.

However I still have to reduce the amount of Phenibut I take as it seems that no company that delivers in germany is producing it anymore so I have to go to as many doctors as I need to get enough Lyrica/Gabapentin/Baclofen or whatever helps. But I already had to stop my college exams because of those damn laws so anything doesn´t matter really much at the moment but trieing to get high and not thinking about how much I hate the capitalistic system
 
I´m taking 2-2,5g Phenibut daily since 2013 so it´s not possible to not take it for a day or so, I have to use the U4 along with it or I would get into withdrawals. The tram and kratom could be left away.

However I still have to reduce the amount of Phenibut I take as it seems that no company that delivers in germany is producing it anymore so I have to go to as many doctors as I need to get enough Lyrica/Gabapentin/Baclofen or whatever helps. But I already had to stop my college exams because of those damn laws so anything doesn´t matter really much at the moment but trieing to get high and not thinking about how much I hate the capitalistic system


Were you in East Germany when it was communist? What was better about it? Most people like capitalist better but I know communist is better than the US media portrays it.

I think Obamacare will go down as the biggest fiasco/scam to the people of any law that has ever been passed in the history of the world.

Im not saying communism is better but when you mix socialist policy with handouts to corporations and banks its a pretty rough situation.

Sounds like youre young though. Believe me, there is no greater thrill than running your own business. Just the illusion of it can make you amaze yourself.
 
I too have an iv dilaudid habit. My tolerance is so high it crazy. I'm low this month as it is cause I sold 10 to a buddy. Usually I'm really stingy with my dilaudid but him and his wife were hurtin. That's why I looked at U47700. At first I woulda got it but after doing research on here I don't think so. I'll get thru my wd some other way which is probably suck it up you weakling. You ran out early on yur own now you gotta pay.
 
I´m taking 2-2,5g Phenibut daily since 2013 so it´s not possible to not take it for a day or so, I have to use the U4 along with it or I would get into withdrawals. The tram and kratom could be left away.

However I still have to reduce the amount of Phenibut I take as it seems that no company that delivers in germany is producing it anymore so I have to go to as many doctors as I need to get enough Lyrica/Gabapentin/Baclofen or whatever helps. But I already had to stop my college exams because of those damn laws so anything doesn´t matter really much at the moment but trieing to get high and not thinking about how much I hate the capitalistic system

2g per day, wow, I take 2g per week and I'm superman for the day, does it still have the same effect?
 
Anyway, as I've said a few times during the past few pages, and been ignored, I started with 5mg U4 and I melt a mild sedation. So, tonight, I took 10mg and the mild sedation was still there but I felt a bit melty and tipsy drunk. Still nothing to write home about. So...I'm going to take 20mg (oral, capsule) at the weekend. To be honest, I've had better effects fro pheninut and 4fa, all from the same manufacturer. So maybe I need larger doses of this U4 to feel anything remotely more pleasant than a melty benzo? ((no opiate tolerance, btw)
 
Were you in East Germany when it was communist? What was better about it? Most people like capitalist better but I know communist is better than the US media portrays it.

I think Obamacare will go down as the biggest fiasco/scam to the people of any law that has ever been passed in the history of the world.

Im not saying communism is better but when you mix socialist policy with handouts to corporations and banks its a pretty rough situation.

Sounds like youre young though. Believe me, there is no greater thrill than running your own business. Just the illusion of it can make you amaze yourself.

lol dude wtf are you talking about? 'running your own small business' this is a thread about u47 :D
you went off on one hell of a tangent
if you wanna spout inane communist conspiracies go to the lounge, they like that stuff
 
Now I took (along the usual Stuff like 150mg Tram, 2g Phenibut, 0,05% ADB-Pinaca mix smoking all the time and very much coffee) 5mg at once along with c.a 20-30mg Camfetamine a few hours ago (I love Camfetamine to enhance any opioids, it is mainly a mild dopamine-reuptake inhibitor without (m)any interactions, one of the best stimulants for combination with other drugs, even with Tramadol I don´t have bad side effects and no real worries as the CFA has only minimal circulatory effects, same level as caffeine basically or even less. I would LOVE more derivatives of it, I think people just didn´t found out the real uses this substance like it´s "parent" Fencamfamine really has) and got quite nice effects! Totally different than last time, I´m feeling nice and fluffy, not overly creative or energetic like oxycodone or tilidine but also not that bored-sedated feeling I also got with butyr-fentanyl for example.

(btw I conserved the solution with 100mg citric acid per 100ml water, is that OK for a few weeks storage? It´s also quite warm theese weeks, today over 40c° in the sun)

No I was born in south-west germany in 1992, the years the DDR was dissolved. About the communism thing: As many know there hasn´t been a real communism anywhere in the world - in such a country there would be neither a state nor money and people would organize themselves completely without pyramidial systems. Socialism, according the the (afaik) "original" described communism by Karl Marx is only the transfer-phase between a capitalistic society into a communistic one where you give all the power to so called "peoples-councils" that would distribute money and good equally to everyone until the state or money isn´t needed anymore (to say it as short as possible for an off-topic post).
Unfortunately many people are so greedy (debateable if they were raised this way by the capitalistc system or are "genetically so" as capitalists and libertarists would say) that they used they´re power in the councils to exploit as much as they can. The massive lack of education in the "low classes" also led to big devastation in the occupied countries with the socialist puppet councils that didn´t care what "they´re people" on the ground were doing and without of participating them equally on all goods and especially knowledge (Things happened to family members of me because of those uneducated "wannabe-commies" that I can´t write here in a message board, it´s more horrible than many can handle, think about what people did in the late middle ages when "witch hunting" became popular to get an image).

My personal "Political" and social view is (as I thought it out in a creative phase) "Socialiberalism" - as much social distribution as needed to fit everybody´s basic need´s and using overproduction wisely and as much liberalism that the free-marked can drive new inventions etc. but with the limit of instantly "communitating" too big monopols or prevent them in the first place. Also the pharma-industry should be nationalized, private companies making studies about the medicine someone takes against deadly diseases? No thanks, no "market-struggle" and greedy capitalistic economics needed there to get people inventing things that serve humanity, those who want to help people will do that more so if they work for the state (the "people") instead of the company in the first place.
 
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^^ ehh, forget about that communist vs capatilist BS- the amount of untested drugs you are consuming has got to be killing you, please switch to the classics: weed, coke, opiates, ketamine, acid, and the tested ones.
 
Yeah, taking cut-to-shit street heroin instead is just so much safer! Because it's a classic, that means it's safe right? Just like the fentanyl cut; after all fentanyl is also a classic. Just ask all the dead people who tested it!
 
Great, and thoughtful post Soulflake. If I figure out how to hide mine like you did, I will, so as to not upset those with no reading comprehension. Its not just subjective experiences that say combining sensible doses of stimulants with opiates is a beautiful thing. I've posted studies on here that say there is a nice amount of potentiation, and argue that they should always be combined to reduce the needed dose of both as well as minimize oversedation. My post may or may not have been on topic. As we know any drug use can land one in the hospital. Especially irresponsible use of RC's where dosages and half-lifes arent well established. Especially, combining with benzos. Most recreational drug use will lead to more doctor or hospital visits. Having health 'insurance' that answers to a board of directors and shareholders that is for profit, doesnt make a lot of sense.

For the topic nazi's: first time 4-fa and early U-4 combo was amazing. Magic is gone for both, for me though. Not a lot of 4fa use and a lot of U4 over a short period of time. So even if one doesnt care nuch about their health, which is a bad bad idea, remember, the more sensible and spread out doses of anything are, the more reward one will acheive. The converse is also VERY true.
 
U47700 Doses

Hey

I received 250mg U47700 and took 5mg as a starting dose. I felt a mild, melty type of benzo feeling and nothing more.

A few days later, I took 10mg. This time I felt the same melty benzo feel and I also felt a tad tipsy drunk and content. Nothing to write home about.

Now, I'm not asking for dosing advice, I don't want anyone to tell me how much to take but, based on the evidence above, I'm planning on upping the dose a little, to 15mg. I have no opioid history, apart from 60mg codeine a couple of times a week

Any thoughts on this plan, based on your knowledge>

Thanks.
 
Hey

I received 250mg U47700 and took 5mg as a starting dose. I felt a mild, melty type of benzo feeling and nothing more.

A few days later, I took 10mg. This time I felt the same melty benzo feel and I also felt a tad tipsy drunk and content. Nothing to write home about.

Now, I'm not asking for dosing advice, I don't want anyone to tell me how much to take but, based on the evidence above, I'm planning on upping the dose a little, to 15mg. I have no opioid history, apart from 60mg codeine a couple of times a week

Any thoughts on this plan, based on your knowledge>

Thanks.

You should make a liquid solution as U-47700 dissolves very easily in warm water it is much more accurate and safer to dose volumetricaly. Read these guides they should help.

https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Volumetric_liquid_dosing
https://wiki.tripsit.me/wiki/Quick_Guide_to_Volumetric_Dosing
https://www.reddit.com/r/Borax/comments/16dey0/guide_to_volumetric_dosing/
 
tried them all


​8(I have a tolerance but I accidently took 600mg of u-47700,didnt even puke but it was waay too much,broke it down to 100mg caps[oral] then down to 50s and it was still stronger than OxyContin 80s but it didn't last very long,maybe 2 or 3 hours at most.i guess all the people that really need pain pills will have to go to the rc's but fuck it,all in all its cheaper than a dr.s visit and big pharmas over priced pills,try 1,052$ for 90 40mg oxycontins,crazy high and that's generic too, the unbreakable o.p.s,anyone know how to break down the new oxycontins? I just cut them in half but that don't do much,rather i.v. but I know my limits,know your own before fuckin around with opiates,i try to always have narcan around,just in case.the fentanyl nose spray almost got me,it got u real warm and high but only for a few minutes then overwhelming urge to re dose,be safe. I love to roll and trip,6apb was my doc 4 a while,know of any good replacements?can get 1plsd which is like real cid to me but cant find any roll,the x around here is bunk,just speed mostly no touchy feely and that's what I miss,yall let me know whats up, im old school,used this site before but heard it was getting tapped in on so I just didn't post,ill see what happens now,hell I need a vendor that's for real,mine was in the uk but the ban made them move and they don't ship to the us yet so im fucked for now,but anyway thanks for the forum,,peace,pot and microdot,,,pack bowls,not guns. thc and lsd 4 u & me.
 
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