help me stop bingeing

Tacoma

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So I have a tendency to being drink. Very rarely can I drink for just 1 day. Anyway I've been drinking for 4 days I've stopped drinking and feel awful my head is killing me the rooms spinning my stomach is burning and I feel like im gonna puke. Any ways to lessen this without drinking more?
 
Well how ur feeling now should be the deterrent to drinking but i was a dope sick junkie for years so i know where you coming from. I recently quit a long meth habit from sheer willpower so i know u can stop too. It just takes real effort man.

Basically it comes down to this. If you reallly want to stop tour going to put in the hard work to better yourself and youll feel great when u get results. But if theres a part of you that wants to keep going, trust me your not gunna stop. Just stop for tonight. Be safe man.
 
I've also forgot to mention im also a junkie don't know if that matters heard it's bad to mix booze and opiates which i always do
 
Tapering, though if you only have a four day binge...it'll be a short taper!

Also, if you (like me) vomit bile (egg yolk consistency and color, battery acid flavor)(yum!) consider Zantac? And not eating.

Took me years of needless suffering to learn that I had pancreatitis?
Or something.

Also, despite AA, it wasn't me not being 'honest' with myself, it was DT and WDs killing me...

Anyways, tapering (google: 'HAMS tapering') and some serious 'antiacids'. Zantac etc is far and away better than anything else.

You ever shit pure acid from your butt? Never prayed so hard in my life. Just excruciating!
 
Luckily this has been one of my shorter binges they usually last about a week or more . I also have a problem with coughing blood after binging. I haven't drank since last night night. There's a vodka bottle beside me and beers in my fridge real hard trying to talk myself out of a drink right now..
 
I went on a drinking binge for 20 years yes 20 years my liver is fucked I have been in rehab on librium to stop me dying. I have had 2 home detoxes now I dont drink I would love to be able to but cant or it will kill me. you have to make a decision be a drinker or dont be a drinker. I am permanently on benzos which helps but only 1mg of clonazepam per day at night to stop my RSL from all the years of binge drinking. I use opiates now as I just cant live life without being out of my face on something or another. yes if it is not damaging to your liver I take it. but I dont use heroin I get my opiates from the supermarket in the form of poppy seeds and make tea from it.

I supplement my benzos with RC benzos or I dont sleep I use Phenibut which is a fucking nice drug but all these substances I use as a treat every now and again not every day just on occasion I dont have to to go to some drug dealers house to get my fun its all legal and I am not talking about going down my local headshop for legal highs I hate that shit. I spend most of my life sober now but indulge in a nice treat every so often. dont get me wron everything you put into your body goes through your liver but some are more damaging than others. But nothing is as bad as booze for your liver. So I got my shit together but I have to be careful some of the shit I take is highly addictive that's why I use as treat apart from the benzos as they aer from my doctor apart from the flubromazepam which I get from another legal source
 
Do you drink between binges at all or is it just that once you start you'll inevitably keep binging until you crash, days or weeks later?

Yeah, opiates and alcohol are a bad combination.

You might already know this, but some of the same drugs which are used to help people with opiate problems are also used to help people with alcohol problems. It's something you might want to look into if you're interested in getting your use of both under control. They're not "cures", of course, but they can be useful tools in getting your life back on track.

I abused the fuck out of alcohol for decades, having multi-day benders on a weekly basis. While binge drinking is never a good thing, how you should proceed depends somewhat on how often you binge drink. You're going to feel like shit no matter what after a multi-day binge but how you should approach ending that binge depends on whether you're physically dependent on alcohol or not - so some information about your drinking habits would be helpful here.

Hydration and sleep are your friends. OTC medications to deal with vomiting and diarrhoea can also help. Try to eat even tiny amounts (many a time I've only been able to get down a quarter of a slice of toast in the days following a binge but even that small amount of food helps).

If hangovers and alcohol withdrawal after binges were a deterrent, none of us would ever binge a second time. Alcohol mightn't be your DoC, but the fact that you go on week long binges suggests that you have an alcohol problem, so I'd make addressing that part of your overall plan to address the role drugs are currently playing in your life.

You'll likely hit a wall quite soon where you're just too sick to drink for a day or so even if you haven't run out of booze. You're going to feel like crap when you hit that wall as your body deals with the effects of both alcohol toxicity and alcohol withdrawal, but it's your opportunity to end this particular binge.

Coughing up blood while binging isn't especially uncommon, but it's something you need to get checked out. You mentioned in another recent post that you think you might have an infection from skin popping. There's honestly no way for us to know whether your current symptoms are just alcohol related or whether there's something more sinister going on, so I strongly encourage you to seek medical advice sooner rather than later.

I know you asked for advice about the physical stuff, but your recent posts indicate that you're in a pretty dark and dangerous place right now. I understand why you're so reluctant to see a doctor, but self-care isn't helping you a whole lot at the moment.
 
Yeah I've been In a dark dark place for awhile now.. the closest I ever come to not binge drinking is drinking for 2 days. If i don't get better within a week or two or if I get much worse I'll go get checked out.
 
A huge problem with alcohol is that it severely hinders the PFC. This allows the limbic system or cave man part of our brains to reign supreme. The limbic system has nor forcite or concept of negative consequences in the future, can not reason, thinks its an indestructible God, and has the maturity of a toddler.

I would consider not drinking at all. I just think that moderation is very tough if not impossible with alcohol. If we drink only a little it does not satisfy, if we drink enough to satisfy we give up control to the idiot cave man that lives in us all.

The chapter from the happiness hypothesis linked in this thread does a great job of explaining kinda what im talking about.

The Brain and Addiction
 
I would consider not drinking at all. I just think that moderation is very tough if not impossible with alcohol. If we drink only a little it does not satisfy, if we drink enough to satisfy we give up control to the idiot cave man that lives in us all.

Even the small amount of people who can successfully drink moderately (and "moderate" drinking has an actual definition - a lot of "social drinking" exceeds those limits) eventually usually need to have a prolonged alcohol-free period before that's possible.

You're not doing yourself any favours using two substances which are physically addictive. Even if you're not willing to get clean from opiates right now, both your body and your mind will benefit hugely by you removing alcohol from the equation.

I'm curious about what alcohol does for you which opiates do not. You said that you use opiates to numb yourself, so what role does alcohol play in your life?

Once again, with both alcohol and opiates you have a lot more treatment options available to you than with other drugs. It's not going to hurt to inform yourself about those options even if you aren't ready to pursue them. Whatever the thing is from which you seek escape in opiates, your chances of successfully quitting opiates and alcohol are going to be much better if you learn other coping mechanisms before you quit. You can start learning those coping strategies without committing to abstinence.

One reason I asked you earlier about whether you addiction/s preceded your adulthood is because I want to get an idea of whether you ever learned general life coping skills. Life is stressful and shit happens. To someone who never developed coping skills during the transition from teenager to adult, those normal life stresses seem overwhelming and creating stability and balance seems impossible.

A huge part of being content as an adult and not being overwhelmed by adult responsibilities is learning how to manage and balance your life. None of us are born knowing how to do that. It's something we have to learn and if your family have "given up on" you, you might need to learn from professionals or at least peer support programmes.
 
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I guess I use alcohol because I can then face my life problems and talk about the things im too ashamed to talk about while im just high. And as far as my childhood and learning coping skills I come from a divorced family where one side talks about absolutely nothing u have to hide everything and the other side copes by drinking and both sides using drugs. Many meth but that was something I never got into.
 
Alcohol is VERY hard to quit psychologically in my opinion, partly because society promotes it and you see images of it everywhere. WHen you see a whole bar full of people happily drinking like its the most normal thing in the world, it's very hard to tell yourself you can't have any. THe other reason alcohol is hard to quit and I dunno if its like this for everyone but as a very shy person I found that alcohol helped me get in touch with parts of myself that I envied in other people, like confidence and that "dont give a fuck" attitude that is so foreign to my normal way of being.

These days I am able to drink in moderation (and by moderation I still mean every day lol, I just keep it to a half pint of whiskey or less). The only reason for this is that due to my health issues which make me feel bad anyway, I cannot handle being hungover on top of how bad I already feel when I wake up normally. so I am forced to keep my drinking under control, or I pay a serious price.
 
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Pretty alarming you are puking blood, that is a warning sign you shouldn't take lightly. Binging for days and suddenly quit is also dangerous. To me it seems like you need medical help as soon as possible to help you quit drinking, i don't think you have a real choise anymore because you are at risk of delirium and seizures when you quit suddenly now, you need a benzo like librium and need to detox under proffessional supervision.

I quit drinking on my own a couple of times and got severly ill, i am now 78 days sober though, it really is possible but you need to motivate yourself and swear off that poison because it WILL kill you when you let it get the best of you.

I hope you act wisely and responsible, only you can do it, much strenght and support, my heart goes out to you, i know what it is like.
 
Every time I have ended up getting nicked/arrested has been down to booze fighting usually. I have some slight brain damage from an I.E.D in Afghanistan booze and ptsd is the worst combo. I had to knock out some twat in the pub for taking the piss cos I am a bit slow I have knocked the drink on the head now. The magistrate was lenient on me cos of my brain damage and bound me over for a year
 
My binge has now ended after 5 days I was able to stop without medical help. I used smoking weed and opiates to end the binge
 
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