Lyme Disease>Kratom Addiction 7 years

[keeponkeepnon]

So after 7 years of Kratom dependence for Lyme Disease / Babesia extreme chronic pain I could not financially afford to continue to keep treating myself when the 40 mg of oxycodone my dr prescribed barely touched the pain in comparison to the kratom believe it or not (plain leaf). So anyway I went to see one of the coolest psych dr's I've ever met friends with Hoffman he's in Massachusetts does a lot of research on MDMA for facing death in cancer patients hint hint. Anyway he currently has me on memantine 5 mg a night and 16 mg suboxone which we are most likely upping to 24. Thank god it has worked this time around I did have to self guieane pig a bit and it actually does take 24 mg to get rid of the horrible restlessness from kratom withdrawal but I don't want to be on suboxone forever because it absolutely does not treat my pain at all I mean it tones it down at least the Kratom w/d pain but the organic pain from the lyme/babesia is horrendous still. My hands radiate and cramp up, my thighs feel like they have fire in them when walking up stairs, I get immense golf ball size myofacial lumps in my back that radiate pain throughout my whole body and literally takes my partner using all of his strength he's a 6'3 big guy and I scream bloody murder till one explodes and literally nearly pass out from the pain, always chilled, bone pain, shootin pain in hip, skin pain feels inflammed over entire body and so on. So I really need some help with dealing with that part of it this psych Dr. is not well versed in Lyme or Babesia just Kratom and every hallucinogen/molecule under the sun.

I also see my regular LLMD Friday and may try to get my oxycodone prescription refilled. Even though I cant take it on suboxone but now that I'll be almost 9 days free of Kratom the antagonists will finally be out of my system and I can finally see how oxycodone truly works for my pain.


So when I saw him last he prescribed 16 mg of suboxone a day with 5 - 10 namenda. Now I actually just got off the phone with him because it's day 2 off the kratom and while the icky anxiousness and horrendous withdrawal feeling has subsided dramatically and its been 48 hours off the kratom and oxycodone (prescribed by dr 40 mg) and solely on the suboxone I'm able to funbction for the first time in 7 years without kratom but the organic pain is horrific stil from the infections. My dr would like to possibly augment the suboxone or go up on the namenda he also at our last visit suggested methadone (which I know works miracles for me tried it once or twice at 10 mg x2 a day) and I was left crying because it was the first time in 7 years I felt normal utterly and completely pain free and not loaded it all it took was a couple vicodin or 5 mg oxy throughout the day for breakthrough pain a couple of times and it was fantastic.

I see him Wednesday and I feel like by then I will be 5 days off the Kratom and oxycodone and on the suboxone. But the pain is just relentless and it feels AMAZING to be unchained from the Kratrom so that's a huge plus. But comparing methadone to suboxone if im going to become dependent on one I would prefer it to be at least effectvie for pain seeing as they are both extremely strong narcotics. So come Wednesday while I will have to be referred to a pain specialist that he is good friends I'm going to push to switch to methadone at least while I treat the babesia because until I can get the pain under control I cannot take the malaria meds for the babesia which will ultimately kill me if I dont treat it and the reason I cant tak the malaria meds is the make me sweat so profusely 6 clothing changes are required a day and the joiont and muscle pain that already exists goes through the roof with both the treatment because of the endotoxins from the die as well as the medicine itself causing inflammation and pain.

How do you guys think I should handle this ? I really need to not lose my job and the oxy kratom cobo was the only way I could barely function and have not been let go for the first time in 2 years after losing four jobs in 7 years. So I need HELP. Thanks.

 

[Euphorogenesis]

I sympathize with your situation, however i fail to see how this is related to ADD. Look, the only thing i can advise you is to be honest with your doctor and tell him that the methadone really is the only thing that does the trick, you're already prescribed opiates so getting a switch shouldn't be that hard.

 

[sekio]

If kratom works for you I'd rather be on that than on either methadone or suboxone.

 

[Hammilton]

Why? It requires frequent dosing to start, and damn near constant dosing after a year or two. Buprenorphine is a good treatment, however, your doc is retarded to put you on 16mg, much less 24. You couldn't have been taking enough kratom to justify that unless you were using ridiculous doses of UEI. Christ, 20g of UEI a day wouldn't merit a dose that high.

 

[f33lg00d]

^seconded even 8mg would have been over kill.

Also suggesting NPD>OD

 

[Chziime]

I'd just like to comment on the previous two posts. I've been a kratom addict for several years now (though am not using currently). To stay on the habit of getting off, I was put on Suboxone, 1mg to start (coming from 20-40g of ground leaf a day). With just a day between my first suboxone dose and my last kratom dose, 1mg hit me VERY hard, to the point of extreme nausea. I do not have experience with opiates outside of kratom, though.

 

[crOOk]

I need to remember to reply to this!