Self talk and addiction Vs. Just shut the !@#$ up already!

[neversickanymore]

Self talk is the conversation all people have with themselves, in their own head.

Self talk for a recovering addict can feal like a never ending battle royal debate, filled with lies, manipulation, humiliation, abuse, "self" demoralization, insanity, "self" humiliation, and as many logical fallacies as will fit into the waking day.

I thought we could benefit from a thread to explore this. Share experiences we have had and techniques we have found helpful to deal with it.
Explore some of the very common pitches our minds make to us.

Thoughts on what's going on here.. I mean why do humans talk to themselves and why do addicts engage in self destructive arguments with ourselves.. whats the reason, what's going on?

Even a place where we can feal free to post some of the utter nonsense our feeble minded little addicts come up with to try and make us use8(

Here are some takes and info..

Negative Self-Talk and Addiction Recovery
Self-Talk's Role in Addiction Relapse
Organize Your Craving Control Self-Talk
7 Steps to Positive Self Talk

So Anything at all around this topic is all good in this thread:D

"How do you know if that little addict in your head is lying? If you can hear it, its lying. If you can't, its either telling the truth or busy contriving its next lie"​

 

[THECATINTHEHAT]

Ha, pretty topical for me.

Thanks for the links, I'll have a good read through them.

My relapse on gear since my last detox was very much related to all of this. On a base level I can admit that it was nothing more than an excuse to use, but it can make a pretty convincing argument when you start believing your own bullshit for sure.

I'll just copypasta a post I made in another thread that speaks of my experience relating to this sort of stuff, hopefully someone might relate and realise it's not just them if they're feeling that way:

I know I'm an alright person as such and although I feel guilty about some of the damage I've caused I'm not caught up in that because I know I can put it right in the future (to an extent, obviously you can't change the past and have to let go of that) if I keep moving forward in the right way.

I don't know what's going on to be honest, I guess I'm grieving for the way I've fucked myself up in a way. I wish I could have the last ten years back. I guess I'm feeling alienated or something, it's hard to explain. I'm angry at what I've done to myself and all the failures. I know I need to let go of that shit but I just can't at the moment for some reason. I get stuck in a spiral where I feel inadequate, so I lose motivation to get off my arse and make the changes, so I get angry at myself, so I feel inadequate...

Trying to actually do some stuff to get me out of my own head (like volunteer work) and I think that will really help. I think I need to have some patience and faith that if I keep doing the right things then my situation will change. Being stuck on a benzo taper doesn't help either, I can't work out what's actually me being nuts and what's down to the taper.