Seattle_Stranger
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Small preface: I've been experimenting with nootropics and supplements for a while now, trying to achieve a mental clarity and focus, improve memory, motivation, and if I'm lucky, some anxiety relief. Lately life has been stressful and it has manifested into an anxious depression that has been really getting me and my lady down in the dumps. Life has been feeling pointless and we've been feeling helpless lately, like people are just insane, everyone is out to get you and life is nothing but one long uphill battle....yeah, pretty grim! I use kratom every day but its effects are marginal due to tolerance, a break is due. I also drink alcohol every day, to excess lately, but I'm reeling that in too. I'm down to sharing just one bottle of wine a night with the lady, not bad at all.
I've had this stash of phenibut from a popular Lift-oriented website a couple years ago. I tried it a couple times and hated it, so I stashed it away. I started reading up on the nootropic and anxiolytic effects of phenibut again and decided to give it another go, but in sub-gram doses this time, and stacked with other noot's. So, I started with about 500mg, no conceivable effect, and worked my way up to about ~1g, still no real effect. I also recently started experimenting with sulbutiamine, also with no real effect noticed in doses up to ~1.8g. Yesterday, I decided to up the dose of both of these, albeit not by much.
Yesterday's stack:
First portion ingested between ~9am-10am:
~1.4g phenibut
~8.5g kratom
1 cup of coffee
The rest of the stack was taken at ~2:00pm:
~2.4g sulbutiamine
~25mg noopept
~100mg phenylpiracetam
1.5g aniracetam
250mg CDP-choline
1 cup of coffee
I arrived at work a little late at ~11am, feeling the minute kratom effects, not really all that enjoyable, just present. Definitely need a break. I drink my coffee and feel it's effects too. Ever since I started messing with noot's and supp's caffeine has been having a strong effect on me, any more than a cup makes me get real jittery and anxious. I keep getting these fleeting 'feelings' (can't really offer more description than that) that I attribute to the phenibut, as it's the only thing I've ingested that I'm not very familiar with. By the time 12:30 rolled around, I definitely was feeling effects and that's when the experience began:
0:00 - I'm driving back to work from a lunchbreak at about 12:30 and I'm noticing a shift in perception, quite similar to the subtle shift I notice with some nootropics. My music starts to sound a lot better and I'm finding myself more emotional, but positively emotional. For example, I saw an old couple hold hands walking down the street and it almost made me feel slightly choked up because it was cute. I notice I'm thinking about my lady a lot and feeling kindof bad about our lack of intimacy lately.
+~1h - I'm feeling a strong anti-anxiety effect, as if nothing can bother me. I'm feeling positive and comfortable, not profoundly but still a welcome change. Nothing that could be considered euphoric. This effect builds and builds. I start feeling a SLIGHT decrease in motor control, but that sounds way worse than it was. One hit of cannabis would've been 10x worse. I still keep getting these random thoughts about how much I love my woman! I text her randomly throughout the day with sweet little nothings.
+~2.5 - I have to go meet someone to buy some audio gear soon. I decide now is as good a time as any, and I chomp down the second half of my stack. Fighting off an erection now because I've gone from thinking lovey things about my woman to downright dirty porno type stuff. I text her about that too... I notice walking around work I feel a light alcohol-like inhibition, as in I can talk to anyone about anything and have to almost be careful not to overstep social boundaries, all without the stupor, loss of logic or dis-coordination. Very interesting effect indeed.
+~3.5h - I'm driving in my car noticing music is sounding AMAZING. It's a rainy, grey day and the beginning of fall, usually quite a dull, depressing time of year but instead I feel super positive! I'm feeling like no anxiety can bother me, people driving like idiots aren't bothering me, I don't feel super anxious to return to work like I usually do when I leave, and I feel this razor-sharp focus on the road, all while being super relaxed and chill. This is nice....
I arrive at the dude's house and suddenly it hits me. He must've thought I was on coke or something because I was yapping his ear off like we were bestest buds. Super chatty, giggly, laughing, and as I left I was talking about how we should stay in touch and talk more after this!
He was cool about it, but looking back I think I was like a whirlwind of energy that just blew through his quiet house.
+4.5h - Back at work now and the day is coming to a close. Normally this is time for my second kratom dose, but I find myself not interested in it. I was listening to some Pink Floyd that I hadn't listened to in a long time and man, let me tell you, the way it was gripping me was on par with psychedelics. Just grabbing my soul and pulling me in, provoking emotions, and making me feel like it used to when I was much, much younger and was first discovering this music. I was extremely productive and even stayed late at work on my own accord just to screw around with some extra-curricular stuff I had going on my computer....all the while still not thinking about my routine opioid dose.
I didn't leave to go home until about 3 hours after I should have, and didn't take my kratom until I left. If I hadn't already poured it and mixed it into orange juice, I would've skipped it altogether.
+~8h - The drive home was down right euphoric. I think about all the ways I'm going to ravage my poor girl when I get home. She wont be home from work for another half hour, so I get home and decide to cook her spaghetti, her favorite. I pour a glass of wine and look around. I am on absolute cloud nine, I feel my eyes popping with stimulation and I'm in a state of pure euphoria. Not a buzzing, recreational euphoria like stims, but at the same time it kindof was! I felt like if I was out hanging with friends I'd be running around like a child. I don't do a whole lot of stimulants, but I imagine this is what a dose of a good, clean stim would be like. Totally amped, totally just ON, razor sharp, but all at the same time relaxed and completely in control, no fast tweaky movements, no jitters or sweats, just 100% pure AWESOME DAY feelings. VERY comparable to the afterglow I get from an amazing psychedelic trip, almost exact.
My lady arrives home and she's met with a barrage of kisses and affection. I tell her all about my profound nootropic experience today and she's glad to hear it, but informs me I have an aroma of me. She said I smelled like "musky medicine" which makes me think I was sweating out some of the chemicals. She said it wasn't bad, but wasn't good either. I try to smell myself but don't smell anything. She doesn't seem concerned, neither am I.
We hang out the rest of the night drinking wine and smoking cannabis. She seems to be having a miraculously good day too and feels even better to see me in a great mood too.
+~11h - It's nearly midnight, and we're both feeling pretty good, so we say f- it, let's be active. We haven't been active in a long time due to stress, and we've been putting it off, so we grab our new raquetball set that we haven't used yet, and we head down to the 24hr gym at our apt complex. We set up some music and play a fun game of noob-tacular "raquetball" (more like whack-the-ball-if-you-can), then we move over to the exercise equipment and randomly start intensely working out. I get on the eliptical and start moving faster than the machine can keep up. It keeps making weird noises because I'm pedaling so fast and hard, all the while feeling like I could go faster. Mind you, this was completely unplanned, after a bottle of wine and cannabis and a day of work, it's after midnight at this point and I'm wearing jeans....loving every second of it. We eventually decide to head back.
This section rated "R"
+~13h - It is now 1:30am and we take a shower together to rid of all the sweat. Now it's on. All it takes is seeing her naked body and I'm suddenly met with a cast-iron erection that feels like it is about to leap off my body and violate her on it's own. We shower for a minute and then head to bed.
For the next two hours I went Tarzan on my poor (ok, not so poor) woman's helpless body. Touching and caressing felt on-par with when we were rolling around in bed just like this on SUPER good MDMA not long ago, just without the whole 'high' feeling....but equally satisfying and at least this time, I'm able to get it up! Every touch felt electric and being deep inside her was pure magic. I was definitely in a very enhanced state, this was way different and way awesome, and I'm sure my lady noticed. We both exploded as the festivities came to a close, and there was a bit more of a mess to clean up than usual. I smoke a bowl and fall asleep no problemo.
~21h - I wake up the next day to my alarm. It's 8:30 and I immediately notice I'm more positive about the day. Usually the first thing I think when I hear my alarm is "FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!", but today was downgraded to a mere "Lame..." as I got up, put on the news and began mixing up my dose of krarom, think about yesterday and how I probably don't even need this. I mix it up anyway and wash it down. I instantly get hit feelings of closeness and love towards my woman who is still tucked away sleeping in bed. I go back into the bedroom, climb over her, start giving her kisses, and the next thing you know she's begging me to be inside her. We have another amazing lovemaking session that just explodes into a huge mess, and leaves her just....well.....you get the picture.
Ok kids, it alright to start reading again!
~23h - I head to work and still feel the anxiolytic effects. Dumbasses on the road don't bother me, I'm not dreading the day, coffee sounds spectacular, and I don't feel any sort of hangover or severe 'fog'. There is some level of after effect lingering, but nothing that takes away from my day. I write up this trip report and get ready to take today's stack, almost exactly the same as yesterday EXCEPT today no phenibut, I want to be responsible. I definitely feel like repeating yesterday's experience too often would be a bad thing, at best it would lose it's novelty, at worst, withdrawal. Tomorrow I may try again, maybe leaving out kratom.
I think majority of yesterday was attributed to the phenibut, however the effects became truly profound only after adding the rest of the stack. Let's see what today's stack brings.
Thanks for reading!!
I've had this stash of phenibut from a popular Lift-oriented website a couple years ago. I tried it a couple times and hated it, so I stashed it away. I started reading up on the nootropic and anxiolytic effects of phenibut again and decided to give it another go, but in sub-gram doses this time, and stacked with other noot's. So, I started with about 500mg, no conceivable effect, and worked my way up to about ~1g, still no real effect. I also recently started experimenting with sulbutiamine, also with no real effect noticed in doses up to ~1.8g. Yesterday, I decided to up the dose of both of these, albeit not by much.
Yesterday's stack:
First portion ingested between ~9am-10am:
~1.4g phenibut
~8.5g kratom
1 cup of coffee
The rest of the stack was taken at ~2:00pm:
~2.4g sulbutiamine
~25mg noopept
~100mg phenylpiracetam
1.5g aniracetam
250mg CDP-choline
1 cup of coffee
I arrived at work a little late at ~11am, feeling the minute kratom effects, not really all that enjoyable, just present. Definitely need a break. I drink my coffee and feel it's effects too. Ever since I started messing with noot's and supp's caffeine has been having a strong effect on me, any more than a cup makes me get real jittery and anxious. I keep getting these fleeting 'feelings' (can't really offer more description than that) that I attribute to the phenibut, as it's the only thing I've ingested that I'm not very familiar with. By the time 12:30 rolled around, I definitely was feeling effects and that's when the experience began:
0:00 - I'm driving back to work from a lunchbreak at about 12:30 and I'm noticing a shift in perception, quite similar to the subtle shift I notice with some nootropics. My music starts to sound a lot better and I'm finding myself more emotional, but positively emotional. For example, I saw an old couple hold hands walking down the street and it almost made me feel slightly choked up because it was cute. I notice I'm thinking about my lady a lot and feeling kindof bad about our lack of intimacy lately.
+~1h - I'm feeling a strong anti-anxiety effect, as if nothing can bother me. I'm feeling positive and comfortable, not profoundly but still a welcome change. Nothing that could be considered euphoric. This effect builds and builds. I start feeling a SLIGHT decrease in motor control, but that sounds way worse than it was. One hit of cannabis would've been 10x worse. I still keep getting these random thoughts about how much I love my woman! I text her randomly throughout the day with sweet little nothings.
+~2.5 - I have to go meet someone to buy some audio gear soon. I decide now is as good a time as any, and I chomp down the second half of my stack. Fighting off an erection now because I've gone from thinking lovey things about my woman to downright dirty porno type stuff. I text her about that too... I notice walking around work I feel a light alcohol-like inhibition, as in I can talk to anyone about anything and have to almost be careful not to overstep social boundaries, all without the stupor, loss of logic or dis-coordination. Very interesting effect indeed.
+~3.5h - I'm driving in my car noticing music is sounding AMAZING. It's a rainy, grey day and the beginning of fall, usually quite a dull, depressing time of year but instead I feel super positive! I'm feeling like no anxiety can bother me, people driving like idiots aren't bothering me, I don't feel super anxious to return to work like I usually do when I leave, and I feel this razor-sharp focus on the road, all while being super relaxed and chill. This is nice....
I arrive at the dude's house and suddenly it hits me. He must've thought I was on coke or something because I was yapping his ear off like we were bestest buds. Super chatty, giggly, laughing, and as I left I was talking about how we should stay in touch and talk more after this!
He was cool about it, but looking back I think I was like a whirlwind of energy that just blew through his quiet house.+4.5h - Back at work now and the day is coming to a close. Normally this is time for my second kratom dose, but I find myself not interested in it. I was listening to some Pink Floyd that I hadn't listened to in a long time and man, let me tell you, the way it was gripping me was on par with psychedelics. Just grabbing my soul and pulling me in, provoking emotions, and making me feel like it used to when I was much, much younger and was first discovering this music. I was extremely productive and even stayed late at work on my own accord just to screw around with some extra-curricular stuff I had going on my computer....all the while still not thinking about my routine opioid dose.
I didn't leave to go home until about 3 hours after I should have, and didn't take my kratom until I left. If I hadn't already poured it and mixed it into orange juice, I would've skipped it altogether.
+~8h - The drive home was down right euphoric. I think about all the ways I'm going to ravage my poor girl when I get home. She wont be home from work for another half hour, so I get home and decide to cook her spaghetti, her favorite. I pour a glass of wine and look around. I am on absolute cloud nine, I feel my eyes popping with stimulation and I'm in a state of pure euphoria. Not a buzzing, recreational euphoria like stims, but at the same time it kindof was! I felt like if I was out hanging with friends I'd be running around like a child. I don't do a whole lot of stimulants, but I imagine this is what a dose of a good, clean stim would be like. Totally amped, totally just ON, razor sharp, but all at the same time relaxed and completely in control, no fast tweaky movements, no jitters or sweats, just 100% pure AWESOME DAY feelings. VERY comparable to the afterglow I get from an amazing psychedelic trip, almost exact.
My lady arrives home and she's met with a barrage of kisses and affection. I tell her all about my profound nootropic experience today and she's glad to hear it, but informs me I have an aroma of me. She said I smelled like "musky medicine" which makes me think I was sweating out some of the chemicals. She said it wasn't bad, but wasn't good either. I try to smell myself but don't smell anything. She doesn't seem concerned, neither am I.
We hang out the rest of the night drinking wine and smoking cannabis. She seems to be having a miraculously good day too and feels even better to see me in a great mood too.
+~11h - It's nearly midnight, and we're both feeling pretty good, so we say f- it, let's be active. We haven't been active in a long time due to stress, and we've been putting it off, so we grab our new raquetball set that we haven't used yet, and we head down to the 24hr gym at our apt complex. We set up some music and play a fun game of noob-tacular "raquetball" (more like whack-the-ball-if-you-can), then we move over to the exercise equipment and randomly start intensely working out. I get on the eliptical and start moving faster than the machine can keep up. It keeps making weird noises because I'm pedaling so fast and hard, all the while feeling like I could go faster. Mind you, this was completely unplanned, after a bottle of wine and cannabis and a day of work, it's after midnight at this point and I'm wearing jeans....loving every second of it. We eventually decide to head back.
This section rated "R"
+~13h - It is now 1:30am and we take a shower together to rid of all the sweat. Now it's on. All it takes is seeing her naked body and I'm suddenly met with a cast-iron erection that feels like it is about to leap off my body and violate her on it's own. We shower for a minute and then head to bed.
For the next two hours I went Tarzan on my poor (ok, not so poor) woman's helpless body. Touching and caressing felt on-par with when we were rolling around in bed just like this on SUPER good MDMA not long ago, just without the whole 'high' feeling....but equally satisfying and at least this time, I'm able to get it up! Every touch felt electric and being deep inside her was pure magic. I was definitely in a very enhanced state, this was way different and way awesome, and I'm sure my lady noticed. We both exploded as the festivities came to a close, and there was a bit more of a mess to clean up than usual. I smoke a bowl and fall asleep no problemo.
~21h - I wake up the next day to my alarm. It's 8:30 and I immediately notice I'm more positive about the day. Usually the first thing I think when I hear my alarm is "FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!", but today was downgraded to a mere "Lame..." as I got up, put on the news and began mixing up my dose of krarom, think about yesterday and how I probably don't even need this. I mix it up anyway and wash it down. I instantly get hit feelings of closeness and love towards my woman who is still tucked away sleeping in bed. I go back into the bedroom, climb over her, start giving her kisses, and the next thing you know she's begging me to be inside her. We have another amazing lovemaking session that just explodes into a huge mess, and leaves her just....well.....you get the picture.
Ok kids, it alright to start reading again!
~23h - I head to work and still feel the anxiolytic effects. Dumbasses on the road don't bother me, I'm not dreading the day, coffee sounds spectacular, and I don't feel any sort of hangover or severe 'fog'. There is some level of after effect lingering, but nothing that takes away from my day. I write up this trip report and get ready to take today's stack, almost exactly the same as yesterday EXCEPT today no phenibut, I want to be responsible. I definitely feel like repeating yesterday's experience too often would be a bad thing, at best it would lose it's novelty, at worst, withdrawal. Tomorrow I may try again, maybe leaving out kratom.
I think majority of yesterday was attributed to the phenibut, however the effects became truly profound only after adding the rest of the stack. Let's see what today's stack brings.
Thanks for reading!!
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