Torresmo
Bluelighter
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The powder I have is off-white/light-tan. I started this thread, posting my marquis, mecke, mandelin, simon`s and robadope tests to try to sort it out and see if someone had anything similar (thanks everyone for helping me out!), however the results were still not very clear. I think my best guess is I have some impure 6-APDB.
So, since I am not completely sure of what I have here, I took 60mg (2 weeks back I had an allergy test, followed by 20mg, with barely threshold effects). This was supposed to be just to get a feel of the drug, but it turned out to be a little more than that.
T+00:00 - ingested a cap containing the drug, with an empty stomach and licked the powder that fell on the table (5mg max)
T+00:20 - First signs. Time to take a shit! I spend around 10mins in the bathroom, while the effects increase. I feel a mild head buzz, I am sweating, my body temperature raised a little.
T+00:30 - I took a shower. Meanwhile the effects were still increasing. 10 minutes later, sex was incredibly good (my gf also took, but just 40mg)
T+01:00 - The come-up is unexpectedly rough! I feel very confused and even a simple task like making my bed required help (LOL)! We went to a bar and I asked someone to drive for me.
T+02:00 - At the bar. It took 1h+ for the come-up to pass. It felt like it was going to hit me very hard and I was surprised, since some people say you don't get nothing until you take at least 150mg. Socialising was a little bit hard while coming up, but nothing out of this world. At this point the effects could be described as a strong buzz, more like being very stoned. Quite pleasant, but there was a hint of nausea. Colours were bright, I was sweating, tact was enhanced. No proper euphoria, more like tripping, like others have pointed out. If I concentrated, I am sure would notice some visuals, although I didn't do this.
T+02:30-3:00: Now I feel more comfortable. The slight uneasiness passed and I am very relaxed. What looked like the beginning of a strong trip turned out to be a very mild one. I drank a few very elaborate drinks, and they were just delicious! Had some nice conversations, met some cool people, and we all were tasting each other`s drinks, even though we had just met. These new people liked me too. I wash`t all talkative and outgoing like I get on MDMA, but socialising was easy, I felt pretty confident and relaxed. There was some empathy, yes, but without that push to be more social than I normally am.
Almost forgot! At about this point there was some neck/shoulder tension. It was an effort just sitting-up straight. This part wasnt very pleasant, but nothing that ruined my night. My GF reported feeling this too.
T+03:00-.... - That`s about it. We had a few more drinks and went home. I don't have exact details for the timeline, but the ride back I was much easier. I took 5mg of melatonin slept easily at around T+06:00, I guess, but I am sure it was not absolutely necessary and I could have slept before that if I wanted to. ZERO comedown and ZERO bad feelings in the day after, I felt completely normal in the morning.
Given the circumstances, I was in doubt if I really had 6-APDB, but after this trial I think the effects match the descriptions I found here.
I am not sure what to conclude. From other BLers`reports, 60mg should be a very mild dose, if anything, and that is how the second half was. However, the beginning was surprisingly strong for this dose, strong enough for me to write this TR. I don't know if I came-up and, when I reached the peak, I immediately started coming down, or if what I had around T+2:30 was the plateau, and 60mg really a mild dose.
From other people`s description, I am more inclined to believe the latter. If so, the plateau was very enjoyable, but I would desire stronger effect. There wasnt even a bit of jaw tension. However, there was this neck tension I talked about, which was weird, but In retrospect, I wasnt so comfortable with the environment at the beginning, so that could be the cause.
That said, next week I am planning to take 100mg. The queens of stone age will perform in another town, and I am planning to enjoy it while on a good dose of 6-APDB. I think I will take it at the hotel and wait for the roughest part of the come-up to pass. Also, I usually like to have a nearby bathroom while coming up on drugs
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I think I will take 4mg of ondansetron to avoid nausea, and maybe 20-30mg of 2-fma (or 50-70mg of 4-fa?) to give me a little bit more stimulation. Also, I plan to keep a 30mg redose (6-APDB) at hand, just in case...
Just a couple of questions for the ones familiar with this drug:
- Is 6-APDB a good drug for taking at a big event like this? Should it enhance musical appreciation? Could it get too trippy for a setting like this one?
- What about the combination I am planning? Does it make sense? 2-FMA? 4-FA? just plain 6-APDB?
- I know, the usual rule is that I should space-out my trips/rolls more than that, but It didn't feel at all like there was significant amount of serotonergic activity, differently to 5-APB, 5-MAPB, MDMA or 4-FA. So, considering I had a low dose saturday, and that I don't have a big tolerance, would it be effective/safe to take a higher dose on thursday?
Edit: Oh, I just read this:
Just to make it clear, I am not chasing an MDMA high, I really want to feel what 6-APDB is all about. What worries me is what Transform said about it being "almost entirely a serotonin releaser".
So, since I am not completely sure of what I have here, I took 60mg (2 weeks back I had an allergy test, followed by 20mg, with barely threshold effects). This was supposed to be just to get a feel of the drug, but it turned out to be a little more than that.
T+00:00 - ingested a cap containing the drug, with an empty stomach and licked the powder that fell on the table (5mg max)
T+00:20 - First signs. Time to take a shit! I spend around 10mins in the bathroom, while the effects increase. I feel a mild head buzz, I am sweating, my body temperature raised a little.
T+00:30 - I took a shower. Meanwhile the effects were still increasing. 10 minutes later, sex was incredibly good (my gf also took, but just 40mg)
T+01:00 - The come-up is unexpectedly rough! I feel very confused and even a simple task like making my bed required help (LOL)! We went to a bar and I asked someone to drive for me.
T+02:00 - At the bar. It took 1h+ for the come-up to pass. It felt like it was going to hit me very hard and I was surprised, since some people say you don't get nothing until you take at least 150mg. Socialising was a little bit hard while coming up, but nothing out of this world. At this point the effects could be described as a strong buzz, more like being very stoned. Quite pleasant, but there was a hint of nausea. Colours were bright, I was sweating, tact was enhanced. No proper euphoria, more like tripping, like others have pointed out. If I concentrated, I am sure would notice some visuals, although I didn't do this.
T+02:30-3:00: Now I feel more comfortable. The slight uneasiness passed and I am very relaxed. What looked like the beginning of a strong trip turned out to be a very mild one. I drank a few very elaborate drinks, and they were just delicious! Had some nice conversations, met some cool people, and we all were tasting each other`s drinks, even though we had just met. These new people liked me too. I wash`t all talkative and outgoing like I get on MDMA, but socialising was easy, I felt pretty confident and relaxed. There was some empathy, yes, but without that push to be more social than I normally am.
Almost forgot! At about this point there was some neck/shoulder tension. It was an effort just sitting-up straight. This part wasnt very pleasant, but nothing that ruined my night. My GF reported feeling this too.
T+03:00-.... - That`s about it. We had a few more drinks and went home. I don't have exact details for the timeline, but the ride back I was much easier. I took 5mg of melatonin slept easily at around T+06:00, I guess, but I am sure it was not absolutely necessary and I could have slept before that if I wanted to. ZERO comedown and ZERO bad feelings in the day after, I felt completely normal in the morning.
Given the circumstances, I was in doubt if I really had 6-APDB, but after this trial I think the effects match the descriptions I found here.
I am not sure what to conclude. From other BLers`reports, 60mg should be a very mild dose, if anything, and that is how the second half was. However, the beginning was surprisingly strong for this dose, strong enough for me to write this TR. I don't know if I came-up and, when I reached the peak, I immediately started coming down, or if what I had around T+2:30 was the plateau, and 60mg really a mild dose.
From other people`s description, I am more inclined to believe the latter. If so, the plateau was very enjoyable, but I would desire stronger effect. There wasnt even a bit of jaw tension. However, there was this neck tension I talked about, which was weird, but In retrospect, I wasnt so comfortable with the environment at the beginning, so that could be the cause.
That said, next week I am planning to take 100mg. The queens of stone age will perform in another town, and I am planning to enjoy it while on a good dose of 6-APDB. I think I will take it at the hotel and wait for the roughest part of the come-up to pass. Also, I usually like to have a nearby bathroom while coming up on drugs
.I think I will take 4mg of ondansetron to avoid nausea, and maybe 20-30mg of 2-fma (or 50-70mg of 4-fa?) to give me a little bit more stimulation. Also, I plan to keep a 30mg redose (6-APDB) at hand, just in case...
Just a couple of questions for the ones familiar with this drug:
- Is 6-APDB a good drug for taking at a big event like this? Should it enhance musical appreciation? Could it get too trippy for a setting like this one?
- What about the combination I am planning? Does it make sense? 2-FMA? 4-FA? just plain 6-APDB?
- I know, the usual rule is that I should space-out my trips/rolls more than that, but It didn't feel at all like there was significant amount of serotonergic activity, differently to 5-APB, 5-MAPB, MDMA or 4-FA. So, considering I had a low dose saturday, and that I don't have a big tolerance, would it be effective/safe to take a higher dose on thursday?
Edit: Oh, I just read this:
Just to make it clear, I am not chasing an MDMA high, I really want to feel what 6-APDB is all about. What worries me is what Transform said about it being "almost entirely a serotonin releaser".
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