I am a new Kratom user. It is part of a plan that never goes right, but hey its fun.
I have read all of the mega threads. I looked at Kratom for about the past 3 months.
By the way, I am not asking anyone to answer these questions, this is my work and fun time but any comments are great. This is what I am doing poking around in the Kratom forums all over the web. I have a different mood here at Blue Light and thanks to everyone for making it what it is. I stay here.
I am taking it for:
1. Pure recreational enjoyment evaluation. If I could only do Kratom would I be satisfied?
2. Not if but when I taper off opiates can Kratom help? IF so, how well and what works best with it?
3. I believe it has other value. What does it reportedly offer versus what do I feel day to day?
Today was my 3rd actual Kratom experience, or I should say is, I took this 3rd dose about 45 minutes ago. I purchased powdered, they didn't offer leaf. I simply mix it with the smallest amount of water i can chug, stir it well, and pop it down the hatch. Then I go for a "second wash" on the glass heh.
It is rare for me to only have one thing going in the evenings regarding what is rolling through my veins. When I took the Kratom I was already under the influence of opiates, smoke, nicotine, a little Phendimetrazine may be around but I do not continue use or use close to the dose of Kratom. Late in any opiate based experience I may add some xanax. .5 to 1. Since learning what a dangerous combination it is I stopped drinking when using opiates and benzos. It made the most sense rather than me keeping up with how much I drank.
(Do NOT MIX THESE things, it is dangerous, and can kill you. No shit, dead, don't do it.
The short version of this should be I am extremely careful when I mix these things, I am paranoid about it as I am many things, to the extreme. Yet I still manage to make mistakes which could cost my life. For HR sake, I wanted to make sure anyone understands I have used for pushing 30 years. I have learned more on how to be safe here, from you folks. Thanks. Do not mix alcohol, Xanax, opiates, kratom. I have not mixed alcohol with Kratom, but I have the other things. There are many reasons why not, 1 Dead 2 Dead3 Dead
IMO It dirties the buzz
If you get the opiate "grumpiness" with an alcohol rage you will do something you regret, stupid, and we are avoiding those situations.
Or, maybe the other way, want to have a good time and yeah, lets all have a good time. Broke the next day, hurting, sick, x100 when you are broke.
I prefer my opiates without alcohol, but I smoke with everything.
If you have any suggestions dealing with Kratom brands, how I should be taking my doses if I am looking for pain relief and recreational, I know you aren't my Dr., don't know my history, etc, so how about what you would take? Not that I would follow it unless it met my own, but for curiosity sake.
I am going to wrap this up with what Kratom flavors I am taking:
Super Green Bali was my first. I took 4 grams and felt nothing
Same strain the next evening I took 10 grams, was under the influence of opiates, but the Kratom gave me a euphoric glow and kicked in nice. If it was placebo I want it again as it lasted a long time, IE an hour or so which I am happy with for a good glow, intense ones anyway.
about 60 minutes ago i took 8.5 grams of the Super Green Bali and mixed it with 1 gram of Concentrated Maeng Da Kratom. They clai 1 gram of it equals 7.8 grams of unenhanced Maeng Da. As usual I have some other things, smoke and opiates, and can elaborate if anyone is interested, ROA, etc
**I understand my use of these things may / will cause fast jumps in tolerance, I am / will probably experience cross-tolerance and this is not a good idea if I want to use it to taper my dose down. I take many risks and put myself in the wrong situations I shouldn't, and sometimes there is not a need only my lack of education about it. I do appreciate any HR offered but I understand I take too much or mix too many things sometimes.