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Please read this warning about blotters if you ever take any that you can be any less than 100% sure of, and admit it... how often can you be sure.
Despite the title of the thread, basically these warnings apply to all use of compounds of this type.
Please read this warning about blotters if you ever take any that you can be any less than 100% sure of, and admit it... how often can you be sure.
Despite the title of the thread, basically these warnings apply to all use of compounds of this type.
25X-NBOMe, 25X-NBOH SAFETY MESSAGE
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This is a newly discovered group of chemicals, with little history of human use.
It has already become clear that these substances carry substantial risks that must be highlighted.
Some facts you should know about The 25X - NBOMe series:
25x NBOMe chemicals have killed at "normal" recreational doses.
Doses can lead to psychotic episodes and ER visits
- We don't know how it kills.
- People have died from doses that are smaller than ones they have taken in the past. (For the time being we have to consider this seriously, even though variance in absorption and other factors may have played a role in this apparent incongruence.)
- We do not yet know the reasons for this unpredictabiliy.
These chemicals are sometimes mislabeled and sold as LSD or "acid"
- If you or people around you must take these drugs, avoid combinations and advise others to avoid it as well.
- If someone appears to be overdosing, it is important to get medical attention quickly to minimize chance of death or injury.
What can you do to field test for LSD / NBOMe's?
- If in doubt about your drugs, learn how to test them using testing kits/reagents. Don't have blind faith in the reputation of your source. Apart from dishonesty, even sources can get duped.
- A good rule of thumb is "if it's bitter it's a spitter". Other than *marked* bitter taste, local numbness in the mouth is also a characteristic of NBOMe-type drugs.
If you take blotters sold as LSD, swallowing them may render NBOMe type compounds inactive while swallowing LSD will work just as well!This has actually - even in this thread - shown to probably not be true. Best we can tell oral dosing may produce unreliable results rather than no results at all! So please be careful making yourself comfortable with a false sense of security. Take other precautions to prevent overdosing!
Is there an antidote for NBOMe overdoses?
- Using UV light makes LSD fluoresce and light up brightly, whereas most other compounds that fit on blotter like NBOMe's do not.
- Tolazoline might be an option, tentatively. Apparently it has been used succesfully to combat some of potentially lethal or damaging effects. However don't go administering this without professional supervision! Instead, mentioning it to medical personel might save time / lives / health.
Other than that using serotonergic antagonists that act on 5-HT2A may be used to counteract induced psychotic behavior or other associated adverse effects. Similar warnings apply: be careful and leave it to people who know what they are doing, or you may make matters worse.
And finally information for people pushing the dosage with NBOMe's:
NSFW:The NBOMe series is known to be more dangerous than other psychedelic drug families. High doses can easily result in severe reactions such as seizures and HPPD. It is possible to get away with high doses because the mental component of the trip is mild so it may not feel as intense as other psychedelics even though there are powerful visuals. In order to try and overcome this some users take several doses to get a more intense/spiritual experience. While this does work for some, for others this is where the serious side-effects emerge.
As a result of this it is recommended that if you are seeking an intense experience, something more than eye candy, you select a different psychedelic with a higher natural intensity and better safety record such as 2C-E or LSD.
It is strongly advised that users do not take more than 1.5 doses of this drug, with one dose generally agreed to be 0.9 mg (900 ug).
Insufflating doses further increases the risk.
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