DecaturDan
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http://www.bluelight.org/vb/threads/738409-NBOMe-abuse-advice
This is an interesting post!
I'm wondering, given the detail... does anything expressed here help narrow down the likely mechanisms of fatality surrounding the NBOMe compounds?
If the OP is describing Brain Zaps as a an after-effect of using NBOMe's, then it's possible that NBOMe's bring about a similar serotonin system damage that serotonergic stimulants like MDMA do in high doses. If both MDMA & NBOMe compounds act similarly on the serotonin system it's possible that they both affect the regulation of core temperature & the metabolisation of water. If these side effects were coupled with insecure setting & panic for any reason, they might bring about the same sort of shock related organ collapse that Ecstasy casualties suffer. Disseminated Intravascular Coagulation or DIC.
A cerebral or cardiovascular event also strike me as more likely in a psychedelic panic state.
NBOMes are Phenethylamines like MDMA, are they not?
Am I right thinking this is not too far-fetched?
DIC - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disseminated_intravascular_coagulation
Nbomes are scary as hell, especially 25I. I've had a couple very low dose experiences that were somewhat normal but anything above like 800ug is pretty intense. I wish I had a more scientific explanation as to what causes fatalities from nbomes but from personally experimenting with the substance at around 1000ug I would definitely say it seems to be something to do with cardiovascular issues probably due to high blood pressure caused by constricted blood vessels.I was at a friends apartment on the comedown from this dose and out of nowhere I starting experiencing that tingling sensation you get when your brain is being starved of oxygen, like if you stand up too quick after sitting down for a long time. The thing was I was not even sitting down and the sensation did not stop after just a few seconds until your blood flow normalizes like it usually does form standing up too fast. Instead it continued to intensify until I fell to the ground and lost complete consciousness for several minutes I was later told. Waking up after being unconscious is always a really uncomfortable feeling especially when you wake up still tripping balls and knowing that whatever you took had to have caused it so the trip started to become concerning to me at that point. This happened once more the same night before I finally just laid down for the rest of the trip as I realized falling unconscious from a standing position could be very dangerous as well. Luckily the rest of the trip subsided without incident after that but I could totally see how someone with naturally high blood pressure or poor cardiovascular health in general could have died from a similar dose of nbome
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