3) Let the flame just lick the weed a tiny bit, a little tiny lick at a time. The idea of vaporizing is that you bring the chemical up to the point that it boils and vaporizes, but without burning it. So it needs to get hot, but not really really hot. So give it a touch of flame for a moment here and there, but don't roast it. That has worked for me anyways.
I have not smoked it yet, but I can tell you for me anyway railing isn't as unpleasant as most reports suggest, a line of speed is infinitely more painful with a more obnoxious drip.
Is it weird I want to use DPT again? I made some promises so I wont for a long time, but I kinda want to go back and try to look for a resolution.
The DPT that I started with is the cleaned up white stuff from the Canadian vendor... I haven't heard that this batch is bunk so I assume that the fault for the threshold effects is mine. I'm going to try again using my Vapor Genie.
I, too, had the "cleaned up" version and after a couple of IM injections of it I threw the remaining 1.5 grams in the trash so I could use the baggie for my DMT.
If it's not bunk, then I'm immune.
I think I either screwed up in the conversion or my smoking technique was way off.
Wow, interesting. What ROAs did you try? Have you had any other DPT to compare with?
Assuming we're all talking about the same site, I've got the same stuff and can definitely say that I don't find it bunk in the slightest bit, so far mild yes, but I can definitely see that being more due to lack of experience with vaporizing as well as the conversion. I'm going to try insufflating next and I'll post back afterwards. Anyone know how long I should be waiting before I can trip again without tolerance reducing effects?I, too, had the "cleaned up" version and after a couple of IM injections of it I threw the remaining 1.5 grams in the trash so I could use the baggie for my DMT.
If it's not bunk, then I'm immune.
I was at ground level peering into a shifting field of tall grass in moonlight. Diaphanous tigers crisscrossed my field of vision and wound through the undergrowth, their black stripes transformed into transparent fissures cut clean through their bodies. Then, in one fractional moment, the wind parted the grass and the tiger's ruptured stripes marshaled in line so that I could suddenly see a great distance through both the tigers and the field. That world froze and I flew through the divide and into empty night. Everything turned inside out with a terrible ripping sound and an electric jolt, and I hovered above it as a bare locus hearing my own disbelieving utterances: "that was it!" "this is it!"--yet I provided no impetus to those words. They were the rustle of grass shifting in the wind.
There's nothing mild about DPT. Something is seriously wrong with what's happening during the experiences of these recent posters. I mean, it's sort of like ... heat ripples through the ego. It's indistinct in the sense that the visuals aren't sharply defined like the way a more selective 5HT2a psychedelic like those of 25C or, maybe, 2C-E are, but your whole sense of self is "rippling," and the visuals do grow in prevalence at higher doses.
I was PM'd about comparisons and contrasts between high-dose DPT and 5-MeO-DMT, which myself and, apparently, others, have made before. Out of all the psychedelics out there currently, there are empirical indications that 5-MeO and DPT lean heavily on 5HT1a relative to 2a in the way of effects at the neuronal level, though 5-MeO much more so. That may or may not be relevant to my observations about their subjective similarity at higher dosages. But in my experience both have the effect of making ego boundaries wavy, warped, and dissolute. With DPT the tendency is more toward the less severe wiggly, light-of-consciousness-through-vibrating-jello refraction end of the spectrum of ego dissolution, whereas 5-MeO is more straight up sublimation into vapor. I'm as sure that that will confuse some people as I am that experienced others with a penchant for figurative language will pretty much follow the distinction. Of my four "ego death" experiences, one involved DPT, and another 5-MeO-DMT (in combination with DXM).
Here is an excerpt describing the vision that preceded the DPT experience:
5MeO is sort of nitrous like in that it's the same relative experience each time, but I don't feel it and DPT have a lot in common beyond the way they shred the ego during high dose experiences. 5-MeO-DMT, at least when vaporized, is of another order in comparison to every other psychedelic I know of. If you happen to be among those who react in a deeply meaningful way to it then it was worth seeking out. But you can't know whether or not that's you until you try it.Psoodonym: Thanks for the comparisons vs. 5-MeO-DMT, I've been really curious about that because they seem very similar.
I've not tried 5-MeO-DMT, still not sure if I will either, because it seems to overlap with DPT so much. Both of these drugs seem to be very trippy, deep, introspective, heavy-duty, powerful. My question is: for someone who has lots of territory left to explore within DPT, and who really likes DPT, do you think it's worth checking out 5-MeO-DMT as well?
Stranglerfish: Insuflation is my preffered ROA for DPT, and I recommend it. Smoking/vaping sucks IMO, except for the very useful short duration, and lack of pain and nasal drip. When you sniff it, make sure you do so very gently. You are trying to get the powder to sit in your sinuses, and the powder is very light so it can be easy to over-sniff. It hurts a bit, but you'll get over it. Try not to swallow the loogie that will form in your sinus, you want the drug to absorb through your sinuses.
Insuflating it has given me the most powerful trips. For me, 20mg is effective, 30mg is starting to get heavy, 60mg is mind-blowing. I want to try 80mg when I'm ready. But the doses are apparently different for everyone. If you've missed it check out the erowid DPT primer: https://www.erowid.org/chemicals/dpt/dpt_primer.shtml He recommends for your first time do 25mg first, then if in 15-30mins you feel like you want to go higher, boost *once* with another 25mg. This is good advice. Measure your doses out beforehand, trying to fiddle with a scale whilst tripping ballz is something you don't need to subject yourself to.
Psoodonym: Thanks for the comparisons vs. 5-MeO-DMT, I've been really curious about that because they seem very similar.
Insuflating it has given me the most powerful trips. For me, 20mg is effective, 30mg is starting to get heavy, 60mg is mind-blowing. I want to try 80mg when I'm ready. But the doses are apparently different for everyone. If you've missed it check out the erowid DPT primer: https://www.erowid.org/chemicals/dpt/dpt_primer.shtml He recommends for your first time do 25mg first, then if in 15-30mins you feel like you want to go higher, boost *once* with another 25mg. This is good advice. Measure your doses out beforehand, trying to fiddle with a scale whilst tripping ballz is something you don't need to subject yourself to.