amz said:
It was 12mg total to be precise but doesn't matter. Anyway I made my 2nd trial today 20mg oral. This stuff is not for (my) nose. It game me a good emotional openness and I had no trouble chatting with strangers, normally I feel kind of insecure and uncomfortable in such situations. I guess I felt like any other human being on this planet for a few hours. I see good potential about this one. But possible neurotoxicity and how it affects your body... Nobody knows. But I think that rc chemists 'mostly' know what they are doing, so it can't be a total poison.
This is not a good idea to treat anxiety with drugs like clephedrone. I used to suffer from social anxiety, when I got off methadone and got on Suboxone, it was slowly getting better and better. I used a lot of stimulants (amphetamine, mephedrone analogues) in that period of time to compensate for full agonist opioids. I really thought I made a big progress but when I stopped taking stimulants for a few months, all my problems came back. And the real solution wasn't in drugs, I felt much much better after my first self-hypnosis session, it was a great feeling of both well-being and satisfaction that no drug has ever given me in such a combination. I could never benefit from psychotherapy, I just can't let anybody in, but I think I'm just an extreme case of this, and for most people psychotherapy can be a successful treatment for their anxiety. I've seen it working wonders many times, no drugs needed.
Don't be so naive that someone cares for your health offering you unresearched or poorly researched compounds. Yes, most chemists making RCs for vendors must know their craft, so they can successively plan and carry out the synthesis of those compounds, but I doubt that most of them care what happens with those RCs later and who consumes them. They take their money and they're happy. Do the maths and you will see how much money this whole business is worth. A lot of people have long forgot that higher values and feelings like fairness, honesty, love, compassion etc. are much more important than material wealth, I think you could talk very few of them out of it, most will just pursue money no matter what. It's not money that got us humans where we are now, it was co-operation and now you look at all those wars around the world, and you wonder "How is that going to bring anything good for our world?" War doesn't choose, both good and bad people die. But wars are not the worst thing, something much worse is the global manipulation because it's telling lies on purpose to mislead people, so they are unaware and easier to control. Perhaps when we destroy our planet and the earth and the waters will be too poisoned for plants to live, so herbivores won't have anything to eat, so carnivores won't have anything to eat, so we humans won't have anything to eat, those people will wake up and realise their money is worthless and that they need all those people whom they consider inferior.
I can perfectly understand that making money on drugs may seem the only way to make a living for some, but this stems from a problem that's much much bigger, it's how this whole world has been organised and is administered now. I'm not completely against drugs. I've been an addict myself, I won over some of my addictions, I still fight with the others, and I think that some of psychoactive compounds found in nature and made synthetically are useful for humans if they are used in the right way. Even if it's just to chill out your mind once in a while, but not every day, because then you just run away from your life and life is about learning how to overcome problems, we won't move on if we just leave problems as they are instead of finding a solution. It is possible to produce RCs and not have a moral dilemma whether your actions are good or bad. But I can hardly see any positives to most of RCs being released recently and the situation keeps aggravating.
There are people who work on new compounds because they really want to bring drugs that do something beneficial for people, but they're a much smaller minority and they don't find a miracle drug every week because they're an effect of hard work and not just a random drug flooding your brain with neurotransmitters or activating/blocking receptors/responses. They're not there only to make you feel ecstatically well, they have a lot of functions that you mess up taking addictive drugs on a regular basis. Anyone who loves chemistry or pharmacology and really wants to serve other people would choose a legal job over a shady business any day, but big pharmaceutical companies are reluctant to research some classes of compounds because they are banned in most countries of the world (well, there are other reasons as well, and it's a part of the disorganisation of our world too), so to keep on working they need to go underground at times.
There is really no telling whether a new RC is safe or not because there is no research on most of them. Some of released research chemicals were previously studied in lab environment but most of them weren't specifically tested in humans, they never made it out of preclinical phase. Take MDPV as an example, I don't think you believe that something making mice bite themselves taken in high-dose binges can be good to humans, do you? Or super-potent opioids like butyrfentanyl - nobody can convince me that it's good. This stuff can't be properly measured without specialistic equipment and we all know that not everyone taking it uses a scale, so it's risking people's lives if you sell a drug like butyrfentanyl to them. If someone really needs an opioid for whatever reason (but not self-centred pursue after pleasure), then there are many alternatives, even legal ones. I've got a lot of other examples from different classes of compounds but I won't be reciting them now. The point is - do you really think vendors caring for other people would release such stuff knowing that a lot of people all around the world are already addicted to previously released RCs and it's ruining their lives? I'm sure that addiction to RCs can be socially considered much worse than addictions to illegal drugs, because anyone can access those legal alternatives and a lot of people aren't even aware of the risks and I think you are one of them.
